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Importing female red

Discussion in 'Doberman Breeders' started by Flyangel1, Apr 24, 2019.

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  1. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    Just a quick search from this site about Erebus from @ArdynBane
    DO NOT BUY FROM EREBUS DOBERMANNS/TERRA DI EREBUS

     
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  2. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    @Flyangel1

    I sent off a PM to the breeder we know in Romania. She might have some Browns.
     
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  3. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    @Flyangel1
    Got a very quick response from her about Erebus now Terra Di Erebus!

    Ok Here is a quick response said HELL NO! She changed her name because they did some Sh*t :poop: things. Its a mother and daughter. Look up on their FB Page.
    She also changed puppies in at least 4 litters, saying they are from certain parents and bought sick puppies from Serbia!

    She is looking at the other breeders.
     
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  4. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    As I said, I am aware of this story and I am still not convinced that their evidence is real or complete. How can a breeder that has been breeding for more than a decade, with great results in their resume and beautiful dogs,one day just snap and start doing this?
    Also I have spoken with over 20 people in the States and around 10 overseas and all have had great experience with this breeder.
     
  5. strykerdobe

    strykerdobe Hot Topics Subscriber

    Ok then go for it! Keep us posted.

    Karma Erebus
     
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  6. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    I have seen that too, I find it pathetic to do online propaganda, maybe people should find something better to do.And I also know that only god can punish someone for their mistakes and we are no gods or unmistaken.;)
    For sure I will keep you all posted. And i will talk with the rest of the owners I have talked on the phone, maybe they want to write their good experience here too.
     
  7. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    Only God can punish, but those that support this kind of breeding(s) keep them in business and it just continues.
     
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  8. Tropicalbri's

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    That was my thought. When I see the sick dobies coming in to the clinic, it breaks my heart to learn they came from less than reputable breeders without health testing done. Granted some are healthy and beautiful but when you see one presenting with DCM, severe skin issues, autoimmune diseases I feel bad for the uneducated owner. It then becomes our job as staff to educate them about what to ask and look for in selecting breeders, what diseases the breed is prone to and we always encourage DNA testing for all the genetic diseases.
    We usually find out about vWD when they want the ears cropped. Doc will not do any surgery on a dog unless we test for all bleeding disorders. The worst possible scenario is beginning a surgical procedure and realizing you have a bleeder and are not prepared for it.
     
  9. kdob2018

    kdob2018 New Member

    @Flyangel1
    I just joined this post today and have identical sentiments in terms of importing Euro. I have been considering a male American bred Euro b/c of bone structure but if I could get a female with good bone structure (which appears to be more common overseas) that would be incredible. I am about 1 year out so please please keep us posted. I also live in CA and don't really know where to begin
     
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  10. Ddski5

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    I agree with Strykerdobe-
    go for it!!

    You willing to risk the time, money, love and frustrations and pursue this???

    Man o’ man, you’ve been warned.
     
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  11. My2Girls

    My2Girls Notable member

    Bone structure as in thick boned?
     
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  12. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    I actually am, so I think I'll go with my gut! I have been warned and I have some brains in my head to think everything I read twice. When I saw that awful post they got online with the horribly thin dogs in outdoor kennels, I immediately made some more research. I saw photos and videos of where they keep their dogs and people's comments that have physically visited their home and they all said the absolute opposite.
    So let's wait and see. And yes I agree about vWD and dcm, but both parents are health tested with DNA and they are clear of DCM, mother has echo also and then vWD clear the father and carrier the mother. I see nothing unethical there. So I'll do it and I'll update you all
     
  13. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    Europeans are bigger in size, both males and females. I'll keep you posted too with my experience! Or you can find me on Instagram @melissagible
     
  14. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    26" bitch, averages 78-80 lbs and certainly not fine boned.

    5-5 7.jpg wow 1.jpg
     
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  15. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    Is that a European import and what bloodline? I believe it has to do with the parents too.
    Do you have any more information on her?
     
  16. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    She's mine. American/South American with a Russian Grandsire
     
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  17. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    She looks fine I think, but pure European bred are with stronger structure IMHO
     
  18. Flyangel1

    Flyangel1 New Member

    This European girl looks fantastic! Look at the bone structure 01-16-49-123629.JPG
     
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  19. Panama

    Panama Hot Topics Subscriber

    She looks like a male, to me. Shouldn't have to look at the plumbing to see what sex it is.
     
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  20. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I agree and if it's really a female it's way overweight and the photo looks like they flattened it to put the dog out of proportion.
    Even if it's a male, it's too fat and what you're seeing isn't bone structure.
     
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