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Spay and heat cycles

And the thing I hate about it most besides being separated from us, is that there probably is no one there all night. I mean dogs have had some major surgeries and could have complications during the night and no one is there. That's a little scary.
 
When Reckless was spayed J took her early in the morning and brought her home at about 3 in the afternoon, still a tiny bit groggy, but fully able to walk. She was also taught to use a ramp to get out of the car a few weeks before, so that was a non-event getting her out of the car. She wobbled a bit, but the ramp was familiar and she knew what she was doing.

You can ask your vet if this is a possibility for Annie (surgery in the morning to be awake and functional to come home that afternoon.
 
Now I need to decide when I’m doing this 😬
Since your Pepper seems to have a shorter cycle (you said 5 months rather than 6 I think) you have to adjust this chart a little bit, but since you have a choice in planning this event, studies show the ideal time to spay in when they are in complete anestrus. I'm not sure how deep the studies go or even what or how much the differences make, but it makes sense to spay when her hormones are not at any elevated or depressed state.

The last day of bleeding she enters Diestrus, count 2 months, add another couple of weeks to completely shake off the false pregnancy/puppy/nesting stuff and put it on your calendar. Basically about 3 months after her last day of bleeding.

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This is extremely helpful thank you for explaining the cycle and when to spay. Going to aim for the 2 year mark, but again I can’t be trusted šŸ™„
 
studies show the ideal time to spay in when they are in complete anestrus. I'm not sure how deep the studies go or even what or how much the differences make, but it makes sense to spay when her hormones are not at any elevated or depressed state.

The last day of bleeding she enters Diestrus, count 2 months, add another couple of weeks to completely shake off the false pregnancy/puppy/nesting stuff and put it on your calendar. Basically about 3 months after her last day of bleeding.
That's what our breeder told us too so we kind of went as close to that as we could.
Is that the norm?
I think it is for many vets. A male can come home the same afternoon but they want to keep a female a bit sedated and resting comfortably overnight.
the thing I hate about it most besides being separated from us, is that there probably is no one there all night. I mean dogs have had some major surgeries and could have complications during the night and no one is there. That's a little scary.
I agree there. The cleaning person comes in at night and I'm sure she'd call the vet if there was a problem but I still don't like it. At least when we had Phoebe at the U there was someone there 24/7 to monitor her.
 
And the thing I hate about it most besides being separated from us, is that there probably is no one there all night. I mean dogs have had some major surgeries and could have complications during the night and no one is there. That's a little scary.

Those drugs have potential side effects that stick around for a few hours to a few days.

What sucks as well is wimpy Vets whose first choice is to knock a Doberman out to do minor work that may not really require them being knocked out.

If it is something minor like a small wound cleaning and a few stitches - A 15 minute job for a good Vet - Some Vets (that don't know your dog) will want to knock your Doberman out before working on them even with something that small. That is not a 15 minute thing any longer and the cost is going to double or triple.

This is the main reason I have my own Doberman muzzle. You may never 'need' it but sometimes it can make other people more comfortable helping you work on your dog cause they are no longer worried about getting chomped on.

Mine is not fancy at all but I do have one for just in case...

Sometimes if the Vet and Clinic is not familiar with your dog(s) and how they behave out in public -

It's because they is scared to death of the breed.

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It's because they is scared to death of the breed.
I don't think my vet is scared of the breed. At least not of my dog. He never was afraid of my last doberman, Buddy. Buddy was very sweet and everyone knew it. And Annie is too, so everyone loves her over there. It's just that he's not seeing Dobermans anymore. At least not purebred. He told me last time that he hasn't seen a purebred Doberman in 10 years or more! Pretty amazing.
 
I don't think my vet is scared of the breed. At least not of my dog. He never was afraid of my last doberman, Buddy. Buddy was very sweet and everyone knew it. And Annie is too, so everyone loves her over there. It's just that he's not seeing Dobermans anymore. At least not purebred. He told me last time that he hasn't seen a purebred Doberman in 10 years or more! Pretty amazing.
Same around here not many vets have any Dobermans at their clinic. I have asked each vet we’ve had, as we’ve been through them…Even when we are out I hear a lot of ā€œwow a Doberman, you never see them anymoreā€

When we do go to the vet Pepper is always popular and everyone asks if they can pet her.
 
I don't think my vet is scared of the breed. At least not of my dog. He never was afraid of my last doberman, Buddy. Buddy was very sweet and everyone knew it. And Annie is too, so everyone loves her over there. It's just that he's not seeing Dobermans anymore. At least not purebred. He told me last time that he hasn't seen a purebred Doberman in 10 years or more! Pretty amazing.
My vet clinic is just fine with Dobermans. I asked one of the vets to check a small bump on Zastava's cheek and he just went right for the inside of her mouth, no fear at all. I remarked about his bravery and he just said "way safer than a Chihuahua." (the bump is fine, just a small cyst, probably a reaction to one of Katyusha's teeth when they wrestle) It helps that my girls are both so sweet and they just sit down and calmly look at other dogs who are losing it like "honey, are you okay?" :rofl: I also take them in just to say hi and keep the clinic a "normally attended space" for them, even when they don't have an appointment. Two of the staff each have two dobies of their own, so pretty familiar with the breed there, my two vet there and I know of at least 3 others who are or have been recent patients as well. So we are lucky that way.
 
Our vet hired one lady vet at his practice and she was scared of most dogs, not just large breeds. My friend had the most happy go lucky sweet Doberman in the world and she insisted on putting a "nose cozy" on him, which is what she called a muzzle. Honestly why would you choose that as a career if you're scared of dogs? Thankfully she moved on after a few years and I refused to see her.

When I picked Olive up last week everyone said they just loved her and she was the sweetest, most beautiful thing on earth.
 
Our vet hired one lady vet at his practice and she was scared of most dogs, not just large breeds. My friend had the most happy go lucky sweet Doberman in the world and she insisted on putting a "nose cozy" on him, which is what she called a muzzle. Honestly why would you choose that as a career if you're scared of dogs? Thankfully she moved on after a few years and I refused to see her.

When I picked Olive up last week everyone said they just loved her and she was the sweetest, most beautiful thing on earth.

It's non vet employees too and to a larger degree.

Some may be very experienced and some may not...

:(
 
Well that’s just a portion lol they are charging 30.00 for the cone, I’ll get my own haha
In 2021 my total to spay Katyusha was real close to the $400 mark. They didn't try to sell me a cone though. They just said come pick one up if she isn't leaving it alone, as I recall. I had one at home anyway from a previous eyelid surgery Thor had. Never did need to use it, as she wasn't picking at it at all.
 

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