King Dobes? Fact or Fiction?

Amanda85

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Is there such an entity as King Dobes? I have heard yes and no so far. Our female is extremely tall and often that is commented on. We get asked if she is a king and I ususally joke in response..no just a princess :) but she does stand a head above others we meet. We have no intention of showing her but are curious as to whether she is?!!
 
Is there such an entity as King Dobes? I have heard yes and no so far. Our female is extremely tall and often that is commented on. We get asked if she is a king and I ususally joke in response..no just a princess :) but she does stand a head above others we meet. We have no intention of showing her but are curious as to whether she is?!!
Yes and no. There are "breeders" (usually BYB or worse) that are breeding Dobermans to purposely be too large. Sometimes they are crossed with other breeds like Great Danes and passed off as purebreds (look for Canine Kennel Club instead of AKC registration or no papers at all) or they are purebreds that are poorly bred. Because of their overly large size they are more prone to health problems like heart issues and joint issues. They also have problems doing the work the Doberman was bred for as their large size prevents them from jumping or climbing as well, they are less agile, and because they are carrying more weight they tend to wear out faster. The "King" designator is just something that bad "breeders" throw on there to get more money for them because people seem to think bigger is better when bigger actually means more issues.
 
Yes and no. There are "breeders" (usually BYB or worse) that are breeding Dobermans to purposely be too large. Sometimes they are crossed with other breeds like Great Danes and passed off as purebreds (look for Canine Kennel Club instead of AKC registration or no papers at all) or they are purebreds that are poorly bred. Because of their overly large size they are more prone to health problems like heart issues and joint issues. They also have problems doing the work the Doberman was bred for as their large size prevents them from jumping or climbing as well, they are less agile, and because they are carrying more weight they tend to wear out faster. The "King" designator is just something that bad "breeders" throw on there to get more money for them because people seem to think bigger is better when bigger actually means more issues.
Yes that would make sense. We did see her mom and were warned she would be tall like her. They did not try to pass her off as a "king". Hopefully she will stay strong and keep as active as she is. I will post some pics later and maybe it will be clearer. Thx Jess :)
 
More on the subject along with a couple other popular myths about the Doberman Pinscher

Typical disposition as portrayed in the media.
COMMON MYTHS ABOUT DOBERMAN PINSCHERS

MYTH: There is a larger type of doberman called the "Giant", "Warlock", "Kimbertal", or "King" doberman that is superior to normal dobermans. FACT: The name "Kimbertal refers to a specific breeder and is not a type of doberman. The name "Warlock" has been used within a dogs name such as "Kimbertal's Warlock". A puppy from this dog would carry its sire's bloodline, but would not be a new breed called the "Warlock". Dobermans bred to standard are a medium size dog . Breeders who are advertising "King" size dobermans are not breeding true to standard and clearly are not concerned about the livelyhood of the doberman. Dobermans were bred as working dogs and have much agitlity, as you raise the size you lose both the agility and function of the dog. The Doberman standard states "Dogs should be 26 to 28 inches tall, 27 1/2 being ideal-Bitches 24 to 26 inches tall 25 1/2 being ideal".

MYTH: Dobermans are viscious attack dogs that turn on their owners. FACT: When properly bred, raised, socialized, and trained; Dobermans are loving, loyal, family oriented dogs who will never think of doing such a thing. The only reason a Doberman would turn on anyone is due to abusive treatment. This is not something that is unique to a Doberman. Any animal, humans included,will defend themselves when threatened.​
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MYTH: Dobermans may be good dogs when they're young, but when they're older their skull stops growing but their brain doesn't. Then their brain swells against the skull or they get "brain rot" and they attack people. FACT: This absurd myth is physically impossible. A Doberman is a canine just like a Golden Retriever. They have the same bone and nerve structure. When any canine's head stops growing, so does his brain.​
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MYTH: If you want a Doberman to be protective, you have to make it mean. FACT: A Doberman is naturally protective of his family and home. Nothing needs to be done to enhance that aspect. If you abuse a Doberman to try to make it mean, the process will backfire and your dog will only protect himself from you.​
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MYTH: If you want a Doberman to protect you from strangers and intruders you have to keep it away from people except your family. FACT: A Doberman that is not properly socialized will probably NOT protect you. He will be very scared of strange things and people. Every Doberman MUST be properly socialized. Taking your pup to lots of places, such as the pet store, shopping centers, obedience classes, vet offices, will help him gain confidence in strange surroundings. You should introduce your pup to as many different people as possible and see that he responds in a friendly manner. Protective instincts are natural and will not be affected by introducing your dog to friends or people he meets on the street. As long as you feel comfortable with a person, by all means, introduce your Doberman.​
 
For those interestred that are numerous articles on the Doberman and the Doberman myths that breedersw have tried to use as a sales pitch through the years. Anything that is bred outside the standard - hence "superior size" King, Warlock are just that a Doberman. They go by no other name. I would certainly recommend running far from those that promote such a gimmick as "better". The standard is correct and correct is always the best.

DPCA.org and the American Doberman Pinscher Educational Foundation adpef.org Both have wonderful articles about our Dobermans from their beginning here in America.
 
When Marco was a puppy he had GIANT paws, and some guy came up to us and said "Wow, look at those feet! Is that a King Doberman puppy?" I had no idea what he was talking about. The guy went on and on about how he used to breed King Dobies and he was positive Marco was a King. I looked online that night and thought it was a) a bunch of baloney and b) definitely not something Marco was.

At 9 months, Marco has grown into his big feet and is a whopping 65 pounds and 24" tall... but regardless, he's King of The Backyard!! :D
 
When Marco was a puppy he had GIANT paws, and some guy came up to us and said "Wow, look at those feet! Is that a King Doberman puppy?" I had no idea what he was talking about. The guy went on and on about how he used to breed King Dobies and he was positive Marco was a King. I looked online that night and thought it was a) a bunch of baloney and b) definitely not something Marco was.

At 9 months, Marco has grown into his big feet and is a whopping 65 pounds and 24" tall... but regardless, he's King of The Backyard!! :D
Lol he is one cute dog! I dont believe the King nonsense either but their are those out there that are convinced...dog parks....out for walks...makes me laugh as I am tall also so I know how she feels about the comments ;)
 
Those myths:D
I know for a fact our girl has the protection instinct,regardless of the fact we socialized her.That also goes for our house when we aren't home.I know I posted this before,but...One friend of mine(I have known him since high school) has known Daisy since she was a puppy.Visits at least once a month,she is 3 now.He had some equipment in the garage he needed to get and we weren't home.I told him over the phone the side door's unlocked,just rattle the gate a little and have a treat she will probably be fine,just rattle the gate first so you don't surprise her.He called a while later to tell me he would have to come over later.She met him at the gate teeth out ready for action.He didn't even get to rattle the gate,she was on the gate like flys on:poop: before he was half way up the drive way.
He slipped a treat through the gap in the fence,she tore it out of his hand and threw it behind her,still ready for action and very vocal.She let him know he wasn't welcome without us home,period.That was the first and only time he has seen that side of her,he was impressed.Until that time he had only seen the side we usually see,the clowny,happy lover dog.2 hours later he came by when we were home and she was his best buddy again like nothing happened.

As to this King myth,it's the first I have ever heard of it.
 
as a person who has experience with heavy large dogs, i will pass on oversize, the only thing it ever brought me was pain and heartache, bad hips, knee's and short life span, rotties are great dogs but way to many health issue's
 
People always tell me My boy is a "king" Doberman. -_- I personally love the pocket rockets < just a nickname I use. They are truer to the original dobe and the standard does say they are a medium sized dog. I don't know why people who get dobermans want these massive looking Dane type things.
 
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King of the stare down.
 
very nice looking dog. if they want large breeds they are out their, i had a male rotti that was only 90 lbs but he was quick and strong. if drago get's to 75 or 80 i will be happy
 
Diesel is 77 lbs :) I'd like him a bit wider in his chest. I don't know anything about his lines though so I'll have to wait and see how he fills out. I know some lines take longer than others.
 
People always tell me My boy is a "king" Doberman. -_- I personally love the pocket rockets < just a nickname I use. They are truer to the original dobe and the standard does say they are a medium sized dog. I don't know why people who get dobermans want these massive looking Dane type things.
Pocket Rocket. I like it. I won't lie and say I don't like a nice large Doberman – you know, maybe a bit larger than the American standard. I personally can condone 95 pounds or so if proportionate.

But my pup seems like he's going to be a Pocket Rocket. You know what? He is plenty strong, best believe it. And he's got the quicks to go along with it.

I predict he'll top out at 80 - 85 lbs. I have to admit if he doesn't hit at least 80 I'll be real disappointed. He's probably 67 or 68 lbs. at 10 months currently.
 

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