[fci] Dobermann Breed Standard Changes On 1st Of January 2015

iceman said:
Today it has been announced at the annual congress of the International Dobermann Clubs (IDC) that the Dobermann breed standard is definitely being changed on 1st of January 2015 banning cropping & docking.

From 1st of January 2015 no uncropped or/and docked dog will be permitted to compete at shows..
Meaning only dogs cropped/docked before that date will be allowed to breed and register litters.
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I dont believe this
 
In case you didnt make the connection.. This is coming from across the pond in FCI territory, specifically the DV in germany and IDC and not the AKC or DPCA. But that is only a matter of time. and these changes in europe will no doubt effect ethical breeders and good owners in the US as well. I suspect the export game will change considerably.
 
VonDoom said:
In case you didn't make the connection.. This is coming from across the pond in FCI territory, specifically the DV in germany and IDC and not the AKC or DPCA. But that is only a matter of time. and these changes in europe will no doubt effect ethical breeders and good owners in the US as well. I suspect the export game will change considerably.
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no i didnt see where they posted stating they were NOT in the USA. i already know Europe is screwed and they have to send their dogs to places like China to get cropped.
 
NobleDobermanK said:
no i didnt see where they posted stating they were NOT in the USA. i already know Europe is screwed and they have to send their dogs to places like China to get cropped.
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Thats not entirely true as several countries in Europe still allow for legal cropping and docking..

Shipping to China for a cosmetic procedure that can still be legally done all over Europe seems extreme not to mention expensive. This announcement only relates to the FCI Dobermann standard which was changed by the German DV does not make the procedures illegal, rather ineligible for competition.
 
VonDoom said:
Thats not entirely true as several countries in Europe still allow for legal cropping and docking..

Shipping to China for a cosmetic procedure that can still be legally done all over Europe seems extreme not to mention expensive. This announcement only relates to the FCI Dobermann standard which was changed by the German DV does not make the procedures illegal, rather ineligible for competition.
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well thats what my friend did who lived in Germany for 20 years
 
Dobie Wan Knobie said:
Must have been a typo???

With Jan 1, 2015 just around the corner, is there any new news on this issue?
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The OP said...
"It is a typo mistake..should have been cropped

From 1st of January 2015 no cropped or/and docked dog will be permitted to compete at shows..

But the content is still not confirmed by FCI..no one still knows how the standard change will affect dogs born before the date of change.."
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On 6.September 2013 at the IDC 2012 congress it has been decided that the breed standard is due to a change...for worst. Take a deep breath and sit down: Starting form 1.1.2015 dobermann will become and all-natural breed - no more cropping and docking! Even if you're from a county that allows it.

In fact, if you're from a county that allows it you can still do it but you can't compete at FCI dog shows (which basically means you can't compete at any show). Just like many things that are considers flaws according to dobermann standard (and if present they will decrease the score), there are some things that will totally prevent a dog from being judged, called disqualifying faults (like missing testicles in males, yellow eye, missing teeth, white spots on coat)...and now cropped ears and docked tail will also be considered a disqualifying fault. There's no need to guess what will become of dobermann breed, one should only look at what happened to the countries, that once ruled the dobermann world, since they introduced docking/cropping ban.

Yes, maybe looks aren't everything and people that already have a dobermann know how to appreciate a magnificent character that they have but it's hard to imaging that the new generations seeking a dog companion will settle for something that hardly resembles an image of a dobermann that they have in their mind. In our collective mind there's just room for one image of this dog and I bet it's not the variant with natural ears and tails.
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Dobs4ever said:
The American Doberman Pinscher is our last hope for a cropped docked breed.
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Lets hope the future generations continue to fight for this right as well, otherwise the American Doberman will go the way of all the rest. What about Mexico and South America, are they still C/D?

iceman said:
Yes, maybe looks aren't everything and people that already have a dobermann know how to appreciate a magnificent character that they have but it's hard to imaging that the new generations seeking a dog companion will settle for something that hardly resembles an image of a dobermann that they have in their mind. In our collective mind there's just room for one image of this dog and I bet it's not the variant with natural ears and tails.
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I agree with this, but when the media starts to portray the natural Doberman as the norm then future generations will have a different image of the Doberman in their mind. We must keep the C/D Doberman in the light.

iceman said:
?...

During this announcement at the conference, the question about Doberman in USA was put forward to Wiblishouser...and his exact words were..."the Americans have a history of taking a breed and changing it, making it their own...to be honest...we don't care what they do over there.. this is going to be our standard, applied to our dogs..they can do what they like!!"
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One more reason to split into our own breed, as (IMHO) we are starting another new faze of evolvement over here with the modern Euro-American cross.

VonDoom said:
In ways it feels like a moot point because the only vets who still crop are old timers past retirement. I have yet to meet a young Veterinarian who does ear cropping.
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This is the slow way of death to our C/D Doberman. When there is no one left to crop, then the crop will fade away.
I think it is how the anti gun people will get their way...they know they cannot take our guns away, but they might be able to control our ammo to the point of not being able to get it any more. The slow way takes time, but it is still a method of control.
 
iceman said:
Today it has been announced at the annual congress of the International Dobermann Clubs (IDC) that the Dobermann breed standard is definitely being changed on 1st of January 2015 banning cropping & docking.

From 1st of January 2015 no uncropped or/and docked dog will be permitted to compete at shows..
Meaning only dogs cropped/docked before that date will be allowed to breed and register litters.
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This political correctness is becoming a pain in the neck.
 
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So those same Europeans who are pushing this no cropping of all dogs what-so-ever... don't seem to have any problem with male babies getting circumcised.
 
Well here it is January 1st 2015 and the standard has not officially changed yet..nor a single published list of this supposed new standard can be found online... Do i smell a controversy?
 
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