[fci] Dobermann Breed Standard Changes On 1st Of January 2015

[thewalkingdead]

For all the breeds effected by this ridiculous ban, it is going to create a major problem with gene pools and issues with inherited diseases. Many of those breeders are most likely going to give up breeding all together.

Would there be a reason why breeders in those countries couldnt unite and create a new organization that would leave IDC in the dust or do the governments have their hands in this legislation?

I certainly hope the AKC can see the problem with this ban coming to the USA.

 

[iceman]

Would there be a reason why breeders in those countries couldnt unite and create a new organization that would leave IDC in the dust

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I repeat...IDC is not the one to blame for this standard change..
read my post here >> Dobermann breed standard changes on 1st of January 2015 | Page 4 | Doberman Chat Community

 

[FredC]

I repeat...IDC is not the one to blame for this standard change..
read my post here >> Dobermann breed standard changes on 1st of January 2015 | Page 4 | Doberman Chat Community

Either way bypassing the DV would also include bypassing the IDC would it not?

 

[iceman]

Either way bypassing the DV would also include bypassing the IDC would it not?

No way of bypassing DV...they are the registered owners of the breed!!!

If they say we decided the breed standard will be this way...then it will be that way.. end of story!!

 

[FredC]

Hmmm, I guess I don't understand we'll enough of the inner workings of parent breed clubs in the FCI.. Or how the FCI DV and IDC affiliate. Is there by chance a cliff notes version of how these three function as a unit?


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[iceman]

Hmmm, I guess I don't understand we'll enough of the inner workings of parent breed clubs in the FCI.. Or how the FCI DV and IDC affiliate. Is there by chance a cliff notes version of how these three function as a unit?

Breed standards are recognized and approved by the FCI.
The German DV is the registered owner for the dobermann breed & they have requested the standard change and this request has been accepted by the FCI..
Once FCI accepts the change,then that's it...the breed will be according to those standards
IDC will only be complying with this change..


Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) is an international federation of kennel clubs based in Thuin, Belgium. The English language translation, World Canine Organisation

Dobermann-Verein e.V. is the German Doberman Club

 

[FredC]

Ok trying to understand this in relation to how KC's operate in NA

FCI = AKC
DV = DPCA
IDC = ???

I guess I don't understand the relationship between the DV and IDC??

I do know the FCI operates on a very different level as the AKC so maybe that's what the IDC represents?

Who is the official registry? FCI? IDC? DV? For the Dobermann?

 

[Dobs4ever]

IDC is simply the International doberman club -= FCI is the world registry and the DV is the governing body of it all. That is my understanding of how it all comes down.

 

[thewalkingdead]

Hmmm, I guess I don't understand we'll enough of the inner workings of parent breed clubs in the FCI.. Or how the FCI DV and IDC affiliate. Is there by chance a cliff notes version of how these three function as a unit?


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Me either. Just throwing thoughts out there. There has to be something that can be done.

 

[FredC]

I guess one could create their own club and standard to bypass the DV however that would require the FCI to recognize this old standard applied to a new breed similar to the many different pit bull breeds.. I have no doubt it is easier said then done but I have a hard time accepting the DV holds all the aces..

 

[iceman]

Ok trying to understand this in relation to how KC's operate in NA

FCI = AKC
DV = DPCA
IDC = ???

I guess I don't understand the relationship between the DV and IDC??

I do know the FCI operates on a very different level as the AKC so maybe that's what the IDC represents?

Who is the official registry? FCI? IDC? DV? For the Dobermann?

OK lets break it down a bit more to understand it..

International Dobermann Club (IDC) >> Home
The International Dobermann Club is a voluntary association of Clubs for the Dobermann Breed with the aim of unifying the regulations pertaining to the breeding, the training and the ownership of this Breed. Founded 34 years ago by the still officiating President of the Dobermann Verein e.V., Mr. Hans Wiblishauser, and the then President of the Dobermann Club of France, Mr. Francois Striby, the IDC now has more than 30 member countries from many parts of the world including North America, South America, Africa, South East Asia, Japan and virtually all European countries as well as the United Kingdom (England).
Two mega events are held annually under the auspices of the IDC and the ever increasing participation by the Dobermann fraternity is an indication of their popularity and stature. The Breed Show, which is held in conjunction with the annual Congress, now attracts an entry of on 600 and the IPO Weltmeisterschaft also enjoys ever increasing popularity and image. Countries that have offered in the past to host these events include Belgium, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Luxemburg, Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Slovakia, Czech Republic and Hungary.
As can be seen from this wide spectrum of countries, the IDC is truly international and contacts and associations established across borders and cultural as well as language barriers not only contribute to the advancement of our Dobermann but they also enhance international understanding, goodwill and friendship amongst the various people and cultures of our world.

Dobermann Verein e.V. (DV) is The German Doberman Club (one of the member countries of IDC and also the owner of the Doberman Breed registered with FCI)

From United States,
United Dobermann Club (UDC) & American Dobermann Association (ADA) are both members to the IDC..


Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) is an international federation of kennel clubs based in Thuin, Belgium. The English language translation, World Canine Organisation, is not often used.
Its goals are described in Article 2 of their regulations:
The aims of the F.C.I. are to encourage and promote breeding and use of purebred dogs whose functional health and physical features meet the standard set for each respective breed and which are capable of working and accomplishing functions in accordance with the specific characteristics of their breed; to protect the use, keeping and breeding of dogs in the member countries; to support free exchange of dogs and cynological information between member countries and initiate the organization of exhibitions and tests.

History
The FCI was founded in 1911 by Germany, Austria, Belgium, France and the Netherlands. The Société Centrale Canine de France and the Société Royale Saint-Hubert in Belgium recreated the FCI in 1921 since it had disappeared in World War I.

Facts
The Fédération Cynologique Internationale has 84 member countries as of May 2008, with one member per country.[1] Each member country regulates its own breed clubs and stud books, and trains its own judges; the Fédération Cynologique Internationale acts as an international coordinating body, making sure that pedigrees and judges are internationally recognized.[2] In addition, the Fédération Cynologique Internationale sponsors and regulates the World Dog Show and international dog shows. The Fédération Cynologique Internationale is not connected to any other dog club or body that also uses the acronym "FCI".

Breeds
Main article: Fédération Cynologique Internationale Groups
All breeds are divided into 10 groups. These groups are based on different issues such as appearance or use. The 10 groups are:

1. Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs)
2. Pinscher and Schnauzer - Molossoid Breeds - Swiss Mountain and Cattle Dogs and Other Breeds (Doberman is in this group)
3. Terriers
4. Dachshunds
5. Spitz and Primitive Types
6. Scenthounds and Related Breeds
7. Pointers and Setters
8. Retrievers - Flushing Dogs - Water Dogs
9. Companion and Toy Dogs
10. Sighthounds

Shows
The FCI informs about the shows and working trials held in each member country. The results are sent to the office in Belgium.
The FCI also sanctions world championship shows in various categories, including conformation, dog agility, obedience, sighthound racing, field trials, and others.


FCI - Fédération Cynologique Internationale

Fédération Cynologique Internationale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dobs4ever]

Ice so glad you are here to help us read and understand this info. Your input and sharing of things that go on over there is invaluable. Thank you so much for always being open and for sharing your love of our Dobermans.

 

[Kingray]

Ok so wait are you telling me that my puppy I got got and copped and is now in school for PP and ring training will not be able ti compete or breed?

 

[iceman]

Ok so wait are you telling me that my puppy I got got and copped and is now in school for PP and ring training will not be able ti compete or breed?

No..dogs born after 1 January 2015 will not be cropped or docked, and if cropped and/or docked will not be allowed to compete..
any dog born before that is OK..

And that is in Europe...Not USA...

 

[Kingray]

Ok so I can compete in EU and the Us then

 

[Kingray]

I just cant crop or dock any puppies in the the future if I want to compete in EUROPE AFTER that date then

 

[Dobs4ever]

I would be wonderful if everyone came over here and made a clear statement - we want our dogs c/d as they have always been We must come out with a strong statement AGAINST any and ALL AR agenda. If we do not the next thing to go will be animals a pets of any kind then our food source - chickens pork, beef - eggs - After all Why should these animals created to be a food source be used to feed man???? They are such idiots and the DV has shown it stupidity again and again. They do not deserve to be in control of our dogs.

I say show AMERICAN and hang Germany and its stupid AR agenda - they have lost sight of what made them GREAT and they have sold the dogs down the river. This is a clear example of what choice will get you.

 

[anna.m.88]

There is a lot more to dobermans than cropped ears and docked tails.

 

[iceman]

There is a lot more to dobermans than cropped ears and docked tails.

I would like to decide on that myself not you or likes of you!!!

 

[anna.m.88]

Yes, I can see that. I'm in the no cropping or docking camp then.