Doberman puppy owners - track your weight gain here

There's more than one 'standard' and in a few days most of our dogs will be out of FCI standard regardless of their size.
Very true, but 120 lbs sounds like a "warlock dobe" which is grossly out of any breed standard. I didn't even know that wasn't a true dobe until I joined here- a few years back I knew someone who very proudly owned a warlock male, but by the time he was 4 years old had a vast majority of health problems related to his size. I'm sure whoever posted and deleted was well meaning.

What is FCI?

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What is FCI?
FCI (Federation Cynologique Internationale) is the Europe standard body. Like AKC is for the US. The FCI standard for a Dobe is slightly larger probably just because of the conversion from cm to in. AKC standard doesn't even list a weight. So there is no weight that would put a Doberman out of AKC standard technically.

FCI
Size
Males 68-72 cm (26,77- 28,35 inches)
Females 63-68 cm (24,80- 26,77 inches)
For both sex a medium size is desirable
Weight
Males 40-45 Kg (85-95 lbs.)
Female 32-34 Kg (65-75 lbs.)

AKC
Height at the withers:
Dogs 26 to 28 inches,ideal about 27½inches;
Bitches 24 to 26 inches, ideal about 25½ inches.
 
FCI (Federation Cynologique Internationale) is the Europe standard body. Like AKC is for the US. The FCI standard for a Dobe is slightly larger probably just because of the conversion from cm to in. AKC standard doesn't even list a weight. So there is no weight that would put a Doberman out of AKC standard technically.

FCI
Size
Males 68-72 cm (26,77- 28,35 inches)
Females 63-68 cm (24,80- 26,77 inches)
For both sex a medium size is desirable
Weight
Males 40-45 Kg (85-95 lbs.)
Female 32-34 Kg (65-75 lbs.)

AKC
Height at the withers:
Dogs 26 to 28 inches,ideal about 27½inches;
Bitches 24 to 26 inches, ideal about 25½ inches.
Thanks! I had never heard that before. For some reason I thought there was weight standards for US too... So what's changing?

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So what's changing?
Ears and tail :mad: Jan 2016 Dobermanns are to have a natural ear and tail meaning no crop or dock.

her dad is 120# & 29" and her mom is 90# & 28.5".
29" is technically out of standard but only slightly. 120lbs is huge for a Dobe but on a 29" frame, sounds more like he was just overweight. Mom at 28.5 is out of standard and rather large for a female. With the 28.5 one would have to assume a weight gain as well. 28.5" and 90lbs is basically male size. Hopefully you keep in touch with your breeder and they have or will share any health issues, if any, Mom has. Being out of standard is really only a concern if you want to show or breed. Beyond that we'll all be watching for the same health issues, so don't let it bother you if yours grows out of standard.
 
Ears and tail :mad: Jan 2016 Dobermanns are to have a natural ear and tail meaning no crop or dock.
Sorry to sound dumb here but what exactly does that mean for you having an EU dog? Can you not show or compete anymore? Or is that just if you're in Europe? That's sort of a stupid rule change IMHO.


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Sorry to sound dumb here but what exactly does that mean for you having an EU dog? Can you not show or compete anymore? Or is that just if you're in Europe? That's sort of a stupid rule change IMHO.
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I wouldn't call it dumb at all, that's a valid question. I don't 'know' the answer for sure but as far as I know we can still compete in USA shows because most are governed under AKC standards. For Europe under FCI standards, I don't know if they'll grandfather in dogs who were cropped and docked before the Jan 2016 date or how they're going to handle it.
 
I wouldn't call it dumb at all, that's a valid question. I don't 'know' the answer for sure but as far as I know we can still compete in USA shows because most are governed under AKC standards. For Europe under FCI standards, I don't know if they'll grandfather in dogs who were cropped and docked before the Jan 2016 date or how they're going to handle it.
Thanks! They really should grandfather in those dogs. I'm sure there would be a great deal of competing dogs who would have to stop, some before their career even really for started because of that. But I'm sure whoever makes the rules doesn't care. That may make it hard to judge as well, having a mix of natural and not trying to judge on a standard that doesn't apply the same way to all dogs.

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Thanks! They really should grandfather in those dogs. I'm sure there would be a great deal of competing dogs who would have to stop, some before their career even really for started because of that. But I'm sure whoever makes the rules doesn't care. That may make it hard to judge as well, having a mix of natural and not trying to judge on a standard that doesn't apply the same way to all dogs.

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In all honest they probably won't let the ones cropped before the new rule compete because they would probably win lol
 
29" is technically out of standard but only slightly. 120lbs is huge for a Dobe but on a 29" frame, sounds more like he was just overweight. Mom at 28.5 is out of standard and rather large for a female. With the 28.5 one would have to assume a weight gain as well. 28.5" and 90lbs is basically male size. Hopefully you keep in touch with your breeder and they have or will share any health issues, if any, Mom has. Being out of standard is really only a concern if you want to show or breed. Beyond that we'll all be watching for the same health issues, so don't let it bother you if yours grows out of standard.

Yup! Absolutely i am, and both the mom [5yr old] and dad [4yr old] are fit, healthy, cleared on all tests. [Though i am unclear on whether the weight on the mom was pre or post pregnancy.] I was fully aware that my dogs lines ran larger but because the parents are very healthy, all testing was done and clear, and the dogs had wonderful temperments, it didn't matter to me and was happy to have her. She is purely a family pet so being out of standard isn't an issue for us. I continuously monitor her thoroughly and take every precaution with her as we do our GSD or any large breed dog.
On a side note, our GSD is def out of standard [couple inches taller/ and on larger side, hips set higher than usual] and luckily he is incredibly healthy and strong going on 9 years old. :love:
 
She's a beautiful pup and looks very well bred and sometimes they just grow bigger than others of the same lines. That doesn't take away from her bloodlines or beauty so I wouldn't worry about it at all.
There is a difference between those who purposely breed for oversized dogs and someone who's a responsible breeder and has a pup here and there that does get bigger than the standard.
 
Thanks! They really should grandfather in those dogs. I'm sure there would be a great deal of competing dogs who would have to stop, some before their career even really for started because of that. But I'm sure whoever makes the rules doesn't care. That may make it hard to judge as well, having a mix of natural and not trying to judge on a standard that doesn't apply the same way to all dogs.

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Cropped and docked dogs can still compete in conformation with no fault until (I believe) August 2016. Since a good number of dogs title by 18 months-2 years this should provide plenty of time for most people with serious breeding stock to title if they focus on conformation prior to show titles. Fortunately, once they get a CH or GCH title it stays regardless of future standard changes. I imagine that the change will be tough on some judges who are accustomed to judging a cropped and docked dog.


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Born 9/18/15
9wks 3days: 22.8lbs
11wks [12/4/15]: 27.2lbs
12 wks [12/11/15] 30.5 lbs
13 wks [12/18/15] 34.4 lbs & 19 in
14 wks [12/25/15] 36.0 lbs & 19.5 in

15 wks [1/1/16] 37.6lbs & 20 in

Is a 1/2" a week normal? She's been measuring on the dot. Another slow gain this week... Diarrhea is 80-90% better but she is still on my diarrhea concoction and has had bit more excercise which prob accounts for that.
 

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Born 9/18/15
9wks 3days: 22.8lbs
11wks [12/4/15]: 27.2lbs
12 wks [12/11/15] 30.5 lbs
13 wks [12/18/15] 34.4 lbs & 19 in
14 wks [12/25/15] 36.0 lbs & 19.5 in

15 wks [1/1/16] 37.6lbs & 20 in

Is a 1/2" a week normal? She's been measuring on the dot. Another slow gain this week... Diarrhea is 80-90% better but she is still on my diarrhea concoction and has had bit more excercise which prob accounts for that.
Her ears are looking great ! Don't be to alarmed at the weight lol sometimes Ares hardly gained and then all the sudden it was 6 pounds in a week then barely anything lol I learned to just be like well ok then lol
 
Born: August 19, 2015
13 weeks - 22 lbs
14 weeks - 23.5 lbs
16 weeks - 28 lbs
17 weeks - 32.5 lb 20.5 inches
18 weeks - 34 lbs - 21.5 inches


20 weeks tomorrow - 38 lbs

Luna is still gaining pretty good despite being off her food quite a bit lately (likely due to her terrible bloody teething!). She is looking pretty big. She doesn't look like a puppy anymore which I have mixed feelings about.

I'm very excited that Luna is starting her obedience classes next Monday. We found a great trainer with 30 years experience as a trainer. She also breeds German Shepherds many of who end up as working dogs with police etc. Her dogs compete in agility as well which I'm interested in so I hope to learn a lot. I spent an hour on the phone with her today and was really impressed. She trains in small groups and she's excited about our class because there will be 2 Dobermans, 2 Rottweilers, 1 Bouvier and a couple of other protection dog types. I can't wait to start! :)
 
Mischa is just over 11 months and weighed in at 62.6 lbs today!! And here's 2 comparison pics... First one taken the day we got her (may 4, 2015) second one today (Jan 6, 2016)
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Born 9/18/15
9wks 3days: 22.8lbs
11wks [12/4/15]: 27.2lbs
12 wks [12/11/15] 30.5 lbs
13 wks [12/18/15] 34.4 lbs & 19 in
14 wks [12/25/15] 36.0 lbs & 19.5 in
15 wks [1/1/16] 37.6lbs & 20 in

16 weeks [1/8/16] 41lbs & 20.75 in!!!

I can't believe she is officially 4 months old!! Hahaha.. its like a doggie version of the children's "Milestones!" She's officially a big girl puppy now!!
I'm thinking the weight gain was due to upping her food as i was weaning off the i/d now that her bowels seem to be in order!! *fingers crossed!!* [She's still getting some sushi rice with pumpkin mixed in to her dry as a gruel and the fortiflora.. so far so good!!]
 
I'm thinking the weight gain was due to upping her food as i was weaning off the i/d now that her bowels seem to be in order!! *fingers crossed!!*
I'm so glad to hear it! Gosh Boris was so small when we got him at almost 16 weeks, but he seemed to be the underdog and grew up to be about 93#.
 
@Prushanks - I'm thinking the weight gain was due to upping her food as i was weaning off the i/d now that her bowels seem to be in order!! *fingers crossed!!* [She's still getting some sushi rice with pumpkin mixed in to her dry as a gruel and the fortiflora.. so far so good!!]

I ended up re-starting probiotics for Luna and things have firmed up quite a bit thankfully. She's still not eating very much so I'm thinking of trying another food (again!).

@JanS - One question - when do they stop gaining weight? When will they be considered full size?
 
She's still not eating very much so I'm thinking of trying another food (again!).
Drogon's appetite is tied to his exercise. On days where the weather doesn't allow us to get him much exercise, he doesn't eat much. When we can go hiking, he inhales his food. Kind of a catch 22 if you are trying to gain weight though. More exercise means more calories burned so more calories needed to be replaced.
 

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