I understand what you mean. It wood not surprise me if there is shady stuff going on under the table. I would definitely need to be careful of that.
Revel looks great. I just prefer the look of the FCI standard dobermann over the more elegant look of the AKC standard. The greyhound look was more of an exaggeration. American doberman don't necessarily look frail but generally are more elegant with long necks and less bone density etc. The phenotype and genotype differences cannot be argued. They are objectively present. FCI has specific standard that european dobermann fit into and it generally is more stronger looking, has facial and body structure differences, thicker boned, more assertive etc as a whole.
You are right though in terms of not looking frail, the pictures can be of young puppies and they fill out as they grow. But the structural and temperament differences are present for sure.
I would like to explore IGP but don't plan on competeting or anything. So if I could find one that has the looks that fit the FCI standard and has the temperament through UDC then I would be happy but it seems most of them are american style phenotype with working focus. It seems.... I'll look more.
Realistically, I wouldn't cry even if I had something like the 3 dogs in the picture lol as long as they had a sound temperament as intended for the breed initially. They are still beautiful even if they were to the AKC standard, not the FCI. But if I could help it then I would prefer the looks and the temperament of a euro dog within the FCI standard. Perhaps not an easy task.
Where did your father get that doberman from? And where did you get yours may I ask?
Revel looks great. I just prefer the look of the FCI standard dobermann over the more elegant look of the AKC standard. The greyhound look was more of an exaggeration. American doberman don't necessarily look frail but generally are more elegant with long necks and less bone density etc. The phenotype and genotype differences cannot be argued. They are objectively present. FCI has specific standard that european dobermann fit into and it generally is more stronger looking, has facial and body structure differences, thicker boned, more assertive etc as a whole.
You are right though in terms of not looking frail, the pictures can be of young puppies and they fill out as they grow. But the structural and temperament differences are present for sure.
I would like to explore IGP but don't plan on competeting or anything. So if I could find one that has the looks that fit the FCI standard and has the temperament through UDC then I would be happy but it seems most of them are american style phenotype with working focus. It seems.... I'll look more.
Realistically, I wouldn't cry even if I had something like the 3 dogs in the picture lol as long as they had a sound temperament as intended for the breed initially. They are still beautiful even if they were to the AKC standard, not the FCI. But if I could help it then I would prefer the looks and the temperament of a euro dog within the FCI standard. Perhaps not an easy task.
Where did your father get that doberman from? And where did you get yours may I ask?
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I appreciate the compliment.
