Bullmastiffs

Testing starting at 2yrs old with yearly 24Hr Holter and Echo up to 5yrs. At 5yrs 24Hr Holter 2x's a year and Echo yearly. Unless there are issues.
We 24Hr Holter every 3mo and Echo every 6mo.
 
I came across this video and just loved seeing their Dobermans perform! Just behaviorally, Aurelius seemed like a typical high energy Doberman that the host couldn’t manage to keep still, but you could tell she loved him, lol, who can deny their charming ways haha. Then the way he kept wriggling and moving while they were seated, yet he was super sweet with his handlers. I believe the guy went on to have his own channel and they sell these fully trained Dobermans (and other breeds) at a whopping price point...something like 30 to 50k - can’t recall now if I converted his price from euros or not. Either way, still a ton of money.

Oh and the whining at the very start of the video :spit:
 
That's not nearly long enough for me but I know what you're saying with so many premature deaths from DCM. Della's mom is over 13 and our two are getting up there but when the quality of life is there, I'm happy.
You're right. I guess 8 is what I've known so far. Wow, over 13 for Della's mom!
 
I was out mowing this morning when my friend came by with my boyfriend! :love: She said, you spoil him! I said, how do I do that? She said, you actually stop mowing just to say hello to him! :D But of course! :thumbsup2: I love that little guy!
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And he loves me! Before I can even get off the lawn mower he's climbing up to me!

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View attachment 109527He's such a good boy. He just turned 6 the other day. I hope he lives a long time cuz I will be just as devastated as she will when he's gone! :(
Your boyfriend there looks great! I love the nice big head. I do want to take a couple safety pins and lift up the flesh above his eyes though. :glasses:

He is so sweet with you! I know you two have a bond. I wonder if he is lovey dovey with strangers though.
 
I came across this video and just loved seeing their Dobermans perform! Just behaviorally, Aurelius seemed like a typical high energy Doberman that the host couldn’t manage to keep still, but you could tell she loved him, lol, who can deny their charming ways haha. Then the way he kept wriggling and moving while they were seated, yet he was super sweet with his handlers. I believe the guy went on to have his own channel and they sell these fully trained Dobermans (and other breeds) at a whopping price point...something like 30 to 50k - can’t recall now if I converted his price from euros or not. Either way, still a ton of money.

Oh and the whining at the very start of the video :spit:
At the beginning of the video when they were showing that scenario unfold with the person in the car being attacked, and he popped the trunk I hoped a Dobermann would jump out; but alas.
 
Your boyfriend there looks great! I love the nice big head. I do want to take a couple safety pins and lift up the flesh above his eyes though. :glasses:

He is so sweet with you! I know you two have a bond. I wonder if he is lovey dovey with strangers though.
Haha, yes he is pretty wrinkly, isn't he? :D But even so, he still has many of the facial expressions of our Dobermans. And it was very hard in the beginning of Covid not come near each other. His face looks so sad. He just didn't understand. And it made me feel bad.

As for strangers, yes, not too friendly. Especially when he's in the house. When they were going to go away and needed someone to watch the horses dogs birds flowers LOL there was only me and another friend that she trusted he would let into the house. And I've never even walked into the empty house with the dog so she wasn't sure. Plus she didn't think I can handle him without him actually knocking me down LOL he's a strong dog and I wasn't sure myself if he wouldn't knock me down in his excitement. They ended up having a friend who actually stayed at the house to take care of everything.

But we did have one incident where I had my son's oldest boy was here and we were on the golf cart and ran into my friend walking her dog. He never met my grandson so I was very cautious. As I would be with any dog, I watched him carefully for any signs. At one point I didn't like the way he was holding his tail or the way he was eyeballing my grandson. Just about the time I told my grandson to step back, the dog made a little growl type of noise. Scared the s*** out of me actually. For my grandson. The dog was still on a leash and she corrected him but we both were surprised. I said you know what? I wonder if he thought he was protecting me? I wanted to do a correction myself, but I wasn't sure how he would take that coming from me even though I know he likes me and will respond to me when I tell him to sit and back off when he's jumping on me. But I just wanted to protect my grandson and didn't want to escalate the situation. But from then on I was very wary with the children. :nono: They have no children so perhaps she just isn't used to children.
 
Pretty much undeniable that the Boxer has been mixed into Cane Corso lines.

Funny thing is this breeder, Old World Cane Corso, states this: "Our goal is to produce Corsos of excellent health and temperament that are true to the rustic Italian standard." Hmmm.

(photo credits go to the above-named breeder)

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As for strangers, yes, not too friendly. Especially when he's in the house. When they were going to go away and needed someone to watch the horses dogs birds flowers LOL there was only me and another friend that she trusted he would let into the house.
So my question here is: Is this Bullmastiff not very socialized? Is that the reason for his defensive/protective-seeming behavior?
 
Contrast this with the two pictures I posted above. This is from another breeder who claims to breed for the Rustic type. I'd say they are getting it closer to correct.

Photo credits to Americana Cane Corso

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Yeah boxer no doubt has to be in the American lines of cane corso. I much prefer the “Italian type” dogs. I just can’t do that smushed muzzle.
 
And I'll tell you, if you go with the bullmastiff or even something similar I guess, be sure they are trained in manners! My next door neighbor never cared about training her dog in things like jumping on you. He will jump on her and anyone else. I remember telling her in the very beginning that he should be trained not to do that. :nono: But she didn't care. I think she loved it! But the trouble is, he jumps on everybody else too. Without her holding the leash, that dog would have me on the ground. :wideyed: Not that he wants to hurt me. It's just his excitement. Even when I greet him in excitement I can tell I have to calm down because he's getting jumpy and over-excited. It's not like a little dog that you can go up to and say, 'hi cutie pie! How are you! What a cute little dog you are!!!' You know, in that little girl voice lol He just gets all Wiggly and jumpy and like a bulldozer LOL He did it to me today! I had to finally back off and say, SIT!!! And then calmly pet him and tell him, good boy, that's how you should sit. Nice and calm and then you get rewarded. But oh my God. LOL He can be a bulldozer and I often tell her I wonder how he would be if off the leash. She said, he would have you on the ground LOL And she's a toothpick herself. :D But more than 10 years younger than me and obviously stronger LOL. But even with the leash (rope! She uses the horse lead rope!) he drags her if he sees me! She can barely hold him back!
 
And I'll tell you, if you go with the bullmastiff or even something similar I guess, be sure they are trained in manners! My next door neighbor never cared about training her dog in things like jumping on you. He will jump on her and anyone else. I remember telling her in the very beginning that he should be trained not to do that. :nono: But she didn't care. I think she loved it! But the trouble is, he jumps on everybody else too. Without her holding the leash, that dog would have me on the ground. :wideyed: Not that he wants to hurt me. It's just his excitement. Even when I greet him in excitement I can tell I have to calm down because he's getting jumpy and over-excited. It's not like a little dog that you can go up to and say, 'hi cutie pie! How are you! What a cute little dog you are!!!' You know, in that little girl voice lol He just gets all Wiggly and jumpy and like a bulldozer LOL He did it to me today! I had to finally back off and say, SIT!!! And then calmly pet him and tell him, good boy, that's how you should sit. Nice and calm and then you get rewarded. But oh my God. LOL He can be a bulldozer and I often tell her I wonder how he would be if off the leash. She said, he would have you on the ground LOL And she's a toothpick herself. :D But more than 10 years younger than me and obviously stronger LOL. But even with the leash (rope! She uses the horse lead rope!) he drags her if he sees me! She can barely hold him back!
Oh yes. I've successfully trained two of my Dobermans to not jump up. With Oji? It's been largely a failure. But that's Oji.

Yeah, no way could I have an out of control 140+ lb. dog in the household. Thing is, the Bullmastiff is known for being good (even gentle) with kids. Of course, many breeds make such claims.

I just searched the web for an old story from the early days of the Bullmastiff. I didn't find it. The story goes: A man with a Bullmastiff made a wager with another man that that man could not run and escape a certain area without being knocked down by the (well muzzled) Bullmastiff. The dog owner won the bet.

You probably know this, but that's what the Bullmastiff was bred to do – to chase down, knock down and pin down poachers but not maul them – at least not before the land owner or his security man got there to bring the intruder to justice. Hence the moniker Gamekeeper's Night Dog.

So it's interesting to hear you describe your neighbor's dog acting in such a bulldozery way. :thumbsup2:
 
You probably know this, but that's what the Bullmastiff was bred to do – to chase down, knock down and pin down poachers but not maul them – at least not before the land owner or his security man got there to bring the intruder to justice. Hence the moniker Gamekeeper's Night Dog.
Yes, I learned that from my neighbor when they got their first puppy. :D

And to be clear, he is not trying to hurt me. He's just huge and HEAVY! lol Not fat, heavy. Big bones on that guy! Man, he'll 'reach out' with his paw from a sitting position and if I don't catch it, it's a black and blue line down my thigh! Through my jeans! If I grab it, it feels heavy! He's such a sweetheart but really too much dog for me.

Kinda like this............especially the ending. Watch it. Hysterical! I love King of Queens!

 
Yes, I learned that from my neighbor when they got their first puppy. :D

And to be clear, he is not trying to hurt me. He's just huge and HEAVY! lol Not fat, heavy. Big bones on that guy! Man, he'll 'reach out' with his paw from a sitting position and if I don't catch it, it's a black and blue line down my thigh! Through my jeans! If I grab it, it feels heavy! He's such a sweetheart but really too much dog for me.

Kinda like this............especially the ending. Watch it. Hysterical! I love King of Queens!

Yeah, I totally know he's not being aggressive.

I know with Oji, he greets someone and it's not overtly aggressive; but the longer the greeting goes on (almost invariably with his paws on them and flailing) it seems to take a dark turn to where I'd say he's being aggressively friendly. Then, it can actually move toward a humping behavior, and this happens earlier on if he's managed to get one or more leg wrapped around the person.

Why do I ever let this happen? Either because the person has been too insistent or assuming in wanting to meet Oji, or (and) because it takes a VERY stern command, and follow-up harsh corrections, to prevent him from doing this.

Speaking of which, my wife has her parents coming to stay the night on Saturday.

And, yes! I remember that episode! King of Queens is one of my all time favorite shows!
 
Then, it can actually move toward a humping behavior, and this happens earlier on if he's managed to get one or more leg wrapped around the person.
Maybe a bit off topic, but not much.
My hubby had a bullmastiff cross years ago. He was a big smoocher with those he knew, and still had some playful pup in him. One of our friends who is a slight but wiry man thought it was fun to engage Max in play and the bet was that he could win a bout of wrestling. He ended up thrown to the ground, pinned there with a sloppy Max face dripping down on him.......................and that was when Max decided to try the hump! It looked so funny that no one went to the rescue any time soon. :lmao: This dog was a clown, but the most serious guard dog I have known when patrolling his domain.
 
Just get a Boerboel so I can watch how it goes for you. That way I can get a sense of if I truly want one in the future. ;)
No, you. :rofl:

Shoot. Now you have me thinking of a Boerboel again.:lolsign: Unfortunately, the guy from Black Iron totally blew off calling me back like he said he would. (Or maybe just expects interested parties to pester him) :tired: Breeders.
 
I tell ya' though: While I do want that large, heavy-boned, Mastiffy Rustic type, my mind also in a way wonders: What about that Boxer-y type? I do want a dog that is athletic and can/wants to run with me, have some great retrieving sessions, run beside the bicycle and go on challenging hikes.

Could the Boxer-y type of Corso be the Boxer I've always wished the Boxer was? In other words, instead of being the small, ineffectual dog that most Boxers of today seem to be, it's like a bulkier, more powerful, more intimidating dog with a better head and not nearly as pushed-in a snout – and it's got a killer battle crop. ?

Though, I would not want people to simply think I have a large Boxer. Boxers are too popular for me. Then again, in terms of Mastiff-type guard dogs, Corsos are too popular for me.

Allright, I'm gonna go watch a Senza Tempo Cane Corso video and see her supposedly 140 lb. males move faster than a typical 90 lb. Doberman.
 

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