Bullmastiffs

Fun to remember how much discussion went on in this thread while you researched breeds for your quest for a new puppy! I learned a lot just by you sharing what you found then going on my own to look up more about all these breeds! @BG1 - if you read through this whole thread you'll find some very invigorating conversation about genetics and breeding!

Wondering now, if Zephyr is filling the role you wanted him to as he matures. He's certainly a handsome guy and I feel sure you aren't disappointed in his looks. Did his temperament and personality develop as you wished. Being a house dog without acreage or livestock, did he seem to need "more" in any way?
 
That hiking stick sounds nice!

Thanks for the compliment on Zephyr, by the way. He really is a looker. I'm sure I talked about it a few times in this big ol' thread, but I prefer a dark colored dog, and not just for aesthetics, but for a couple of impactful reasons.

I have read in some comments online that brindle dogs shed less than fawn colored ones. That would be an added bonus. When I saw that a breeder I'd talked to had a litter of four with this brindle coat and varying levels of black heads/faces, I was intrigued.

I know I talked about American Akitas in here, and I definitely considered one. I had a phone call with a nice lady who breeds confo. Am. Akitas and they are beautiful; but the price was $4,800! Yes, every video I've seen of an Akita in a scrap with another dog shows the Akita dominating.

That's cool regarding the two A.S.s. Yep, working LGDs spend most/all their time outdoors and usually work all night and thus sleep most of the day. I notice you wrote "CAS" also. That, to me, means Central Asian Shepherd, which is a breed I admire quite a bit and talked about in here. They can be quite large, which I would love; but I don't know what the food bill would be, and honestly, it's hard enough to deal with Zephyr at 30" and about 110 lbs. A CAS at that height or taller, and 160 or 180 lbs.? If that dog does not want to move, it ain't moving. I also need to get to the truth about that claim that the mature CAS will not accept strangers into your house or onto your property no matter if you are commanding them to accept the stranger.
Yeah I mispoke on the CAS equating the Anatolian to that family. Separate breeds.

I took a peek at Midguard- interesting stuff.
RN BYB Bonnie is enough but its fun to speculate on the next.
 
Fun to remember how much discussion went on in this thread while you researched breeds for your quest for a new puppy! I learned a lot just by you sharing what you found then going on my own to look up more about all these breeds! @BG1 - if you read through this whole thread you'll find some very invigorating conversation about genetics and breeding!

Wondering now, if Zephyr is filling the role you wanted him to as he matures. He's certainly a handsome guy and I feel sure you aren't disappointed in his looks. Did his temperament and personality develop as you wished. Being a house dog without acreage or livestock, did he seem to need "more" in any way?
Thanks @Ravenbird
This is a great thread and still digesting, probly have more ?'s.
 
Fun to remember how much discussion went on in this thread while you researched breeds for your quest for a new puppy! I learned a lot just by you sharing what you found then going on my own to look up more about all these breeds! @BG1 - if you read through this whole thread you'll find some very invigorating conversation about genetics and breeding!

Wondering now, if Zephyr is filling the role you wanted him to as he matures. He's certainly a handsome guy and I feel sure you aren't disappointed in his looks. Did his temperament and personality develop as you wished. Being a house dog without acreage or livestock, did he seem to need "more" in any way?
Thanks for asking! Zephyr is working out wonderfully! Do I get frustrated sometimes? Do I have very high standards and expectations? Yes,, but I have to remind myself that I cannot expect from this dog what I expect from a Doberman. That said, he is way more trainable and biddable than I thought he'd be!

His trainer claimed these pups would be "service dog-level trainable," but especially when you're mixing breeds, you can't know that. Either the breeder's goals came to fruition with this breeding, or we have won the lottery. I took a tremendous risk in buying this dog. I have never dealt with LGDs before, and plenty of people say you must not try to keep one as a house dog, and especially not in a neighborhood. Some go so far as to say it is cruel to do so. I need to restate that he is 1/4 Midgard Mastiff and that may be playing a significant role in him working out as a house dog. Well, we are so blessed with how Zephyr is working out for our family and household. He is about 2 2/3 years old now and I realize he will probably change a bit, as he might not be fully mature yet; but he is a very livable dog and an easy keeper!

The issue of barking was of paramount concern for me – especially nighttime barking. That is working out very well! Now, I will reveal something that is probably surprising. We still have a baby gate up, sectioning off the rear living room. Although he basically has free reign of the house during the day, we keep him gated in that room at night. This keeps him from barking. See, my wife has a thing where she does not want window coverings. So, the front windows of the house provide no privacy, and we have windows in our front door, and side lights (windows next to the front door). Zephyr looks out those windows a lot and is on watch. That's good! Good boy! But 98% of what he barks at is stuff he should not bark at. I have worked with him since he was a wee little one on ceasing barking when I command him to; but he still barks frequently when free in the house. At night? I think he'd bark multiple times per night, waking up the household. So, back living room for him. He also seems to feel it's his "cave" and can turn off his watchdog mode to a large extent when in that room. We are tired of the baby gate, and I have the idea of transitioning to a couple of nice ropes across the doorway, then to just one rope. I feel he would honor it. He could knock down the existing gate with one paw swat but he's not that kind of dog, thank God.

To answer @BG1 's question: No, we don't have any livestock. We're in a neighborhood and in fact the neighbors' houses are some 15 feet from ours.

I am raising and training Zephyr just as I have my Dobermans. I do all my own training and am self-taught. He knows basic obedience, and we have him wait at doorways until we release him to pass through. He sits and holds and out of sight stay for each meal. I am huge on the heel command, and I can use it to have him run, off-leash, next to a bicycle as I ride. I do have an e-collar on him both to handle if he were to run off after another animal (he has not even tried to!) and to discourage lazy lagging behind. (All my Dobes had the opposite problem and just COULD NOT keep from forging slightly ahead all the time.)

But yeah, Zephyr doesn't like to work – at least not work for mankind. Once he realizes he is working, he stops. Hence, he will not retrieve; so that extremely useful tool is not in my toolbox. Oh, he cannot resist the urge to chase and grab something that has been thrown, but he is determined to NOT bring it back to you, I have tried and tried. I understand it may not be in his makeup to retrieve, but I see other instances of him not liking to work at all. Maybe we should be glad he IS driven to perform the most important job: Be protective of our family!

Here is a pic from a minute ago. We took a short bike ride to the park and I also let him off-leash for just a few minutes so he could drop a poo. This is how he looks after. If he does not get at least his base level of being walked, he does indeed get restless, looking at you and even whiny (ARGH!) but... Easy keeper, yes he is.

ZlayAfterBikeRide.webp
 
I will add in regards to Zephyr's training:

A couple of the things we like to do in addition to basic obedience are scentwork and having him hold my feet down with his front paws as I do sit ups.

The scentwork is not in any official, standard form as seen in competitions. I have him search for articles in the house – sometimes it's just a piece of kibble. I also have him search for my daughters at the park. I would do it on my street as well, but at least one neighbor is extra sensitive to off-leash dogs. I have taken an article of my daughter's clothing and hidden it at the park and had him find it.

The sit ups thing, I need to work on more often; but he is getting it. He really doesn't want to have his paws on my feet as he is sitting in front of me and I am sitting on my butt. He will sort of sit back in a sort of "sit pretty" pose, taking weight off his front paws – ha. But he is getting it. Last time, I did 10 or 15 sit ups without issuing a reminder for him to remain motionless.

Oh, he doesn't like to do it, but I still work to have him bark on command.

I also have trained him to lick his chops on command.

I am working to teach him directional signals in terms of which person I want him to alert defensively to, or in which direction I want him to look and be on guard.
 
The other day I was in a Lowe's store with my husband. We had separated to look at different things when I looked down the aisle and saw this beautiful black dog! I had a smile on my face as the woman was walking him toward me. Yes, I'm one of those people that wants to pet your dog! 😜 Or at least talk to you about your dog! He was beautiful! He looked like a black Doberman. Cropped tail and also cropped ears, although not as long as most dobermans. He was 5 months old and almost as big as Annie. I complemented her on how gorgeous he was but said I am not quite sure of the breed. He looks almost Doberman but I know he's not. She said the name so quickly that I didn't quite catch it. But I thought she may have said a Cane Corso. I can't be sure and I knew my husband was looking for me so I couldn't stay too long with her. So I didn't want to ask her to repeat it. But now I wish I would have. And I also wish I could have taken a picture of him. She said it was his first time in the store and I said he's doing quite well! He was not real interested in me although he sniffed my outstretched hand. But then he was busy sniffing at the shelves. He was friendly but not overly friendly. But just very cool looking. 🥰
 
The other day I was in a Lowe's store with my husband. We had separated to look at different things when I looked down the aisle and saw this beautiful black dog! I had a smile on my face as the woman was walking him toward me. Yes, I'm one of those people that wants to pet your dog! 😜 Or at least talk to you about your dog! He was beautiful! He looked like a black Doberman. Cropped tail and also cropped ears, although not as long as most dobermans. He was 5 months old and almost as big as Annie. I complemented her on how gorgeous he was but said I am not quite sure of the breed. He looks almost Doberman but I know he's not. She said the name so quickly that I didn't quite catch it. But I thought she may have said a Cane Corso. I can't be sure and I knew my husband was looking for me so I couldn't stay too long with her. So I didn't want to ask her to repeat it. But now I wish I would have. And I also wish I could have taken a picture of him. She said it was his first time in the store and I said he's doing quite well! He was not real interested in me although he sniffed my outstretched hand. But then he was busy sniffing at the shelves. He was friendly but not overly friendly. But just very cool looking. 🥰
Me too. I could stop and pet every dog I meet. Actually BYB Bonnie is CGC and oracticed every day doing "introductions" since about 1.5 years, and now for SD I've basically trained her to stand and patiently while I blabber on, no socializing except a polite nose sniff if allowed.

She does get restless and I suspect jealous after a while and might even yip a little as she looks at me like "what about me, Dad!?!"

So I gotta apologize to the other dog (no more butt rubs!) and get back on task, back to work!
 
The other day I was in a Lowe's store with my husband. We had separated to look at different things when I looked down the aisle and saw this beautiful black dog! I had a smile on my face as the woman was walking him toward me. Yes, I'm one of those people that wants to pet your dog! 😜 Or at least talk to you about your dog! He was beautiful! He looked like a black Doberman. Cropped tail and also cropped ears, although not as long as most dobermans. He was 5 months old and almost as big as Annie. I complemented her on how gorgeous he was but said I am not quite sure of the breed. He looks almost Doberman but I know he's not. She said the name so quickly that I didn't quite catch it. But I thought she may have said a Cane Corso. I can't be sure and I knew my husband was looking for me so I couldn't stay too long with her. So I didn't want to ask her to repeat it. But now I wish I would have. And I also wish I could have taken a picture of him. She said it was his first time in the store and I said he's doing quite well! He was not real interested in me although he sniffed my outstretched hand. But then he was busy sniffing at the shelves. He was friendly but not overly friendly. But just very cool looking. 🥰
Docked tail and cropped ears. It likely was a Cane Corso. Many many people mispronounce it Cane (as in candy cane) Corso.

Could it have been Presa Canario? They don't customarily get docked tails though. Just cropped ears.
 

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