Doberman ear posting - improved method

So the tape at the tip and the base ( when i am using backer rods) Will do the the job?
Yes.

Remember, though, that you have to insert the posts nice and deep into the ear (it will not hurt the inner parts of the ear) and pull up on the ears as you wrap the tape around the ears and to the posts. You want the ears stretched up onto the posts. Of course, we are talking within reason – too much force would be bad.
 
Yes.

Remember, though, that you have to insert the posts nice and deep into the ear (it will not hurt the inner parts of the ear) and pull up on the ears as you wrap the tape around the ears and to the posts. You want the ears stretched up onto the posts. Of course, we are talking within reason – too much force would be bad.
okayy thankyou :)
 
Quick posting question! The torbot company makes a product called Skin Tac and I was wondering if this would work as well for adhesive and if so, has anyone used it?
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Quick posting question! The torbot company makes a product called Skin Tac and I was wondering if this would work as well for adhesive and if so, has anyone used it?
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I've never used it but I did a quick google and all I'm getting is that it's an adhesive barrier. Is an adhesive barrier different than adhesive bonding/cement? I don't know but maybe something to look into further.
 
I've never used it but I did a quick google and all I'm getting is that it's an adhesive barrier. Is an adhesive barrier different than adhesive bonding/cement? I don't know but maybe something to look into further.
I was reading the reviews and if I understand it properly, it works like applying the Torbots to the skin (allowing it to get tacky) which allows the "back-taped" backer rod to stick better.. but not sticking directly to skin... so the Skin Tac like the cement and is what's actually touching the skin, instead of the tape... so it's a barrier that is also adhesive... sort of like double sided tape.. I think?
 
I was reading the reviews and if I understand it properly, it works like applying the Torbots to the skin (allowing it to get tacky) which allows the "back-taped" backer rod to stick better.. but not sticking directly to skin... so the Skin Tac like the cement and is what's actually touching the skin, instead of the tape... so it's a barrier that is also adhesive... sort of like double sided tape.. I think?
Sounds like it would work. Since it's the same manufacturer I'd call customer service and ask them to explain their differences and their adhesive strengths.
 
it works like applying the Torbots to the skin (allowing it to get tacky) which allows the "back-taped" backer rod to stick better.. but not sticking directly to skin...
If you're back taping too I would think it would work. Otherwise I'm thinking it wouldn't hold as well as the Torbot's if you don't back tape.
 
Quick posting question! The torbot company makes a product called Skin Tac and I was wondering if this would work as well for adhesive and if so, has anyone used it?
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I posted elsewhere but I wanted to update with my experience! This stuff is awesome! Highly recommend! A note though, it works with the adhesive tape so you still backtape backer rod. :thumbsup:
 
I'm needing some help! The vet has shown us how to apply the backer rod method with reverse tape sticky side out and taping the whole ear.. They last about two days till she works them off!! How can we get her to leave them alone or better taping method? Help!
 

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Have you viewed any of the posting videos on this forum? Unfortunately some of the vets are not the best at posting. (My previous vet made a horrible mess of posting.) That looks like too much tape and if she is able to shake them out with that much tape the posts are probably not deep enough. Check out some of the videos on here. That should help.
 
I'm needing some help! The vet has shown us how to apply the backer rod method with reverse tape sticky side out and taping the whole ear.. They last about two days till she works them off!! How can we get her to leave them alone or better taping method?
Welcome!
I totally agree with what @My2Girls said in the above post.
If you're back taping, here's a good video tutorial and as stated, it's important to get them as deep into the canal as you can. You can't hurt them the way their ear canal is shaped.
How to Post Cropped Ears (Video)
 
Thanks you two for quick responses! Yes we have watched videos and have noticed less tape being used. We will be doing our own posting for the first time on Monday.. Will be watching the video you shared!! Thank you!! U think just tape on bottom and a piece on top will do? That's what I have noticed more
 
U think just tape on bottom and a piece on top will do? That's what I have noticed more
Yes, that works best with the 1" tape and no wider. We're always here to answer questions if you have them as well.
 
More help needed! I've done the new method and love it, it's much better! Thank you! But she has now figured out how to pop the Rod out at the base :-( any help suggestions with that :-( tia
 
But she has now figured out how to pop the Rod out at the base :-( any help suggestions with that :-( tia
Usually they can't get them out if they're pushed far enough into the canal. What size backer rod are you using?
 
I think I'm pushing them far in till they can go any further.. Push and Twist in till they stop. Cutting a V shape off the bottom like a video someone suggested, so tapered bottom tht goes in her ear.. Maybe that's the problem? And we r using 5/8 backer rod
 
Cutting a V shape off the bottom like a video someone suggested, so tapered bottom tht goes in her ear.. Maybe that's the problem? And we r using 5/8 backer rod
I don't think you need to taper it as long as the rod fits into the canal and you're right, it could be the problem.
 
Doberman ear posting - improved method

Over the years I’ve been tweaking the basic backer rod method and this way of doing it is by far the most effective and easiest of anything I’ve tried, so now that we have a new pup for a model (thank you Albert), I wanted to put a tutorial together for the rest of you.
This is not only a minimal tape method, but it also makes for stress free post changing for you and your pup and no loss of hair on the backs of the ears. This method also does not require the tedious back taping that many require and makes for a much smoother and stable post.

Before starting any type of ear posting please make sure your pups ears are healed and free of infection. Always clean the ear canal out well before beginning!

Supplies:
Backer rod, sometimes called caulk saver. Young pups usually need ½” and as they grow they will move up to 5/8”. This is easily found in the caulk department at home improvement stores like Lowe’s.
Duct tape. Any basic duck tape will work and it’s the backbone of your posts integrity. Most of the tape shown in the photos is some of the fun colored stuff you can buy at places like Wal-Mart, but the basic grey tape will work just as well.
Scissors.

Here is the link to order most of the supplies if you can't get them locally. Product Category: Adhesives/Tapes/Removers

And a better link with better prices.
Curity Porous Tape BY KENDALL 1in 2531
Osto-Bond Skin Bond Adhesive OSTOBOND, OSTOBOND, Montreal Ostomy Ostomy Care, Ostomy Accessories
UniSolve Adhesive Remover by Smith & Nephew BUY at Vitality Medical 402300, 402300, 59402500, 59402500


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Baby powder for the hair side of the ears for easy tape removal.
Antibiotic ointment to put on the end of the posts inside the ear.
Kendall Curity 1” porous tape or Zona’s tape. Two pieces approximately 5” long, two pieces approximately 3” long and one piece about 10 – 12” long for the center brace.
Surgical adhesive
Many of the tape and adhesive products are available at your local medical supply store, but if you can’t find them locally here’s a great source. Nature's Farmacy
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Measure the length you want to cut your pieces of backer rod off by measuring from the bottom of the bell or flare of the ear to the tip and go an extra inch. I keep one sample so I don’t have to do it every time, then measure the new posts from there.
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You will want to measure your duct tape with the post leaving the bottom 3/4” or so exposed, which is the part that goes into the ear canal.
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Tape the backer rod lengthwise starting at the edge of the tape as shown keeping it as smooth and straight as possible.
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Apply baby powder to the hair side of the ears to keep the tape from sticking and pulling it off during removal.
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Apply an even and fairly sparse coat of adhesive to one side only of the post, which will face toward the inside of the ear.
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Now apply a coat of adhesive to the inside of your pups ear as shown and let dry until there is almost no stickiness left when you touch it – approximately 4 – 5 minutes. This totally eliminates the need for back taping and holds them in place much better. Note: only apply down to the ear lobe and not into the canal.
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After the adhesive has dried it’s time to insert the post. Pull the ear back slightly and make sure to get the post down to the bottom of the ear canal – you will be able to tell when it goes all the way down and you do not have to worry about ear drum damage the way their ears are formed. The post should go straight up the center of the ear or closer to the uncut edge.
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Now stretch the ear tight and attach it to the glued post and smooth into place. Notice how well they stick all by themselves.
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Apply the two 5” pieces toward the bottom of the ear as shown making sure that the natural ear flap folds in toward the inside of the head and in the same direction as the tape. Start the tape on the post and loosely wrap it making sure it’s not cutting off circulation – very important.
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Apply the top tape in the same manner.
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The last step is the center brace which is only needed until they gain control of their ears, which is usually about 3 postings or until there is always slack in the center brace. Space the ears so they are slightly out and not pointing straight up from the head as shown. Again start your tape on the tape on one of the posts going across the front first, then around the back and press the two sides together.
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And how it should look when it’s done.
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Please feel free to ask any questions as you go and part two will be simple post removal, which needs to be done in 4 – 5 days with this method, unless you find a problem or suspect an infection.

One other note: be sure not to let the posts get wet since the tape will tighten on the ears as it dries and cut off the pups circulation.

As an additional note: It used to be recommended to wrap the whole bell, but that practice has since been dropped since it does nothing to help the ear stance and only invites infection since the ear canal can't breathe at all.
 
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Does anyone have a photo of what a doberman with cropped ears would look like if the ears weren't posted? All the breeders in my area do not sell dogs with natural ears. And I would prefer not to put him through the multi-month ear posting process. Thank you all for your help!
 

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