It doesn't have to be pressure, maybe I used the wrong word. Defense is STRESS for a dog, Prey drive is PLAY. When a dog is presented with a stressful situation (someone jumping over the fence, no owner there to encourage defense, its all on its own) - defense with excessive stress can produce fear biting which is about as bad as it gets. These dogs would love to stand by us, defend us and our property, but to throw them out and see what their made of with no training like the video showed just isn't fair at all and in fact can set the dog back for being an honest protection dog. Like an unfair attack at a dog park can make a puppy dog aggressive for life.didn't see him pressure the Dobe. The split second I saw the Dobe lose all Doberbase in its voice and retreat I knew all I needed to know about the animal.
Wish one of them was reasonably close.
Wish one of them was reasonably close.
From all the times I’ve seen people cross the street when they see Kaiser, the visual deterrence is more than sufficient, so for me personally, aside from being in love with his looks, I could definitely have a chilled out Doberman that enjoys the cat lifestyle: lounging on the sofa, sunbathing, and snoozing, all day, yes please! I do think they are a lot of work for the average person and between me and my hb, we are able to keep everyone fairly happy. If we had kids, or a LIFE outside of Kaiser’s demanding schedule , I’m not sure such a high energy dog would be ok. Min Pins, Manchester terriers, Dachshunds, they’re super cute, but it’s just not the same as living with a little ponySo why don't they get a Frenchie or King Charles Spaniel? This is the part I really don't get. We all know our Dobermans can be sweet lap dogs, but we also know what the original purpose was.
From all the times I’ve seen people cross the street when they see Kaiser, the visual deterrence is more than sufficient, so for me personally, aside from being in love with his looks, I could definitely have a chilled out Doberman that enjoys the cat lifestyle: lounging on the sofa, sunbathing, and snoozing, all day, yes please! I do think they are a lot of work for the average person and between me and my hb, we are able to keep everyone fairly happy. If we had kids, or a LIFE outside of Kaiser’s demanding schedule , I’m not sure such a high energy dog would be ok. Min Pins, Manchester terriers, Dachshunds, they’re super cute, but it’s just not the same as living with a little pony
Many working sports, sure; but not so much bitework.I would think a fairly high percent of well bred Dobes would do well in a working sport if that type of temperament was nurtured and worked from the beginning?
I agree! Good comparison. And one that, as a horse person, makes a lot of sense.think the Doberman breed is certainly split into two groups now, show & work. Nothing wrong with that, there are Quarter Horses that are bred for cow work and some bred for flat track racing and some bred for Halter Class shows. Few, if any, could ever win - or even work well - at a venue that was outside it's pedigree, yet they are all still Quarter Horses. To retain integrity of the breed, I think a working dog should still fit the standard for size & conformation and I think a show dog should not be shy due to boldness being bred out of it.
So why don't they get a Frenchie or King Charles Spaniel? This is the part I really don't get. We all know our Dobermans can be sweet lap dogs, but we also know what the original purpose was.
I would actually love to see someone test my Dobe – at least by just hopping the fence.
I believe Kaiser would be able to sniff them out just based on some things he does with us. If we have been to a restaurant or at the movie theatre, he will very attentively sniff the back of our legs. I think he smells all the other people off our clothes. One time I used my knee to push on a store door, he was fixated on that same knee when I got back to him and we were both outside so there were plenty of other smells all around us. They are fascinating to watch and figure out, that’s for sure.Wouldn't it be great coming home and knowing that your dog knows that there is danger in the house?
Yeah, that's where I don't know if I have enough ass behind me to hold Joker.If any one wants to see a WAC test
Yeah, that's where I don't know if I have enough ass behind me to hold Joker.
Ya mean like this? Skip to the stranger. That poor woman was doing everything she could to hold on.
Our GSP came from champion hunting lines and his hunting instinct was through the roof but he was the sweetest most laid back boy you could as for in the house and always wanted to be near us. Outside he was always way too far ahead when his hunting drive kicked in so it was hard to enjoy a leisurely walk with him off lead.The other day we were at Farm & Fleet and someone walked in with a German Shorthaired Pointer. We both said, Beautiful dog! I think we both were drawn to it because of the sleek body like a doberman, LOL. But I had to remind him that was a sporting dog.
Maybe unpopular opinion but he seemed pretty reactive at non-threatening things. The person just walked out from behind the van, not even towards her, and he went ballistic. They didn't even get a chance to threaten. Same with the umbrella and he took a while to come down from both. Kinda scary to me thinking if she lost control of him... maybe a bad day. Better than non-reactive and hiding I suppose. I'd like to see a little more of an actual threat first and not just some person appearing from behind their car.Ya mean like this? Skip to the stranger. That poor woman was doing everything she could to hold on.
Well.... at least the dog is not timid.Maybe unpopular opinion but he seemed pretty reactive at non-threatening things. The person just walked out from behind the van, not even towards her, and he went ballistic. They didn't even get a chance to threaten. Same with the umbrella and he took a while to come down from both. Kinda scary to me thinking if she lost control of him... maybe a bad day. Better than non-reactive and hiding I suppose. I'd like to see a little more of an actual threat first and not just some person appearing from behind their car.
Maybe unpopular opinion but he seemed pretty reactive at non-threatening things. The person just walked out from behind the van, not even towards her, and he went ballistic. They didn't even get a chance to threaten. Same with the umbrella and he took a while to come down from both. Kinda scary to me thinking if she lost control of him... maybe a bad day. Better than non-reactive and hiding I suppose. I'd like to see a little more of an actual threat first and not just some person appearing from behind their car.
I'm in the same boat with ya here! I love my girl, but whew, some days...I have to admit there has been more than a few moments that I feared that I was in over my head with Maja. But I don't regret getting her one bit. She is freaking amazing and makes me bring my "A" game every day. I have to rise to the occasion everyday because she is testing and pushing limits everyday and she is doing here best to train me LOL!
When we get thru the Doberteens I have no doubt that she will be the the best dog I have ever owned and she has huge shoes to fill.
Total truth. But one has to be able to see whether a "bold" dog is really acting out of fear aggression. How to channel that energy takes talent, whether it's overly bold or in fear aggression mode.You can't train a timid dog to be bold and fearless , but you can dial back a bold dog to acceptable levels with proper training.
Yes, especially the umbrella - that was a non-threat thing that could happen in public - not something to attack, and he went around the umbrella and barked at the innocent person!Same with the umbrella and he took a while to come down from both. Kinda scary to me thinking if she lost control of him