Anyone heard of or try "Pet Gentle"

[BGpa]

So, having played some catchup on BYB Bonnie, in terms of training, understanding the breed, get better myself as an owner for next big dog...functional home and personal guardian that can accompany older folks on camping, trails, beaches, get along with others when well trained as pet companion...

I've done a ton of reading in breed, inc a couple others (BW loves GSDs, we've had two rescues and if we go that way it has to be done better- ideally a puppy, we can bring up to max potential)
So I've haunted webforums, reddit, asked noob questions, and now

I'm watching a lot of dog videos, trying to better understand behavior and picking up tips from other breeds, hunter trainers, for social skills, IGP trainers for drive, nerve, Service Dog programs for calm confidence, etc- there is a LOT of commonality in the basics...

And I particularly look for MWD trainers with experience in the environments and dogs with similarity to what that the doberman breed was originally bred for...

And finding these best and busy folk is hard, and harder to pick their brain (unless you buy a six figure executive protection dog plus family training)...

Of course the algo feeds me more and especially ads (so I use Brave browser to clean those up)

But occasionally I find stuff thats possibly relevant, and try to track down the source, then bounce the science around in research and anecdotally in the breed, esp on the working side...

What DCF represents to me as "best at..."

So, what do you all think of this?
"Breaking the adrenaline loop".
And the trainer- legit?

PetGentle

trypetgentle.com

 

[BGpa]

PS: some research on independent reviews on device, marketing, "breaking adrenalin loop" is not positive...
So this now segues into what to do instead, with more well regarded tools and methods.

Here is one example-see this video

This video raises all sorts of issue not related to the...

Adjust your expectations! Your dog does not know or care that when you brought him home you had plans and goals. Your dog is a dog with it's own thing going on. It's up to the two of you to find the middle ground that you can both enjoy. Seriously. Like Hey buddy I thought we could be Agility...

www.germanshepherds.com

And then some commentary from the GSD world...some very experienced MWD folk there, that applies to working line dobes

 

[BGpa]

PS: again, just for discussion but I find a lot of good dog common sense on dobes matches what I read elsewhere:'

This video raises all sorts of issue not related to the...

Adjust your expectations! Your dog does not know or care that when you brought him home you had plans and goals. Your dog is a dog with it's own thing going on. It's up to the two of you to find the middle ground that you can both enjoy. Seriously. Like Hey buddy I thought we could be Agility...

www.germanshepherds.com

 

[JanS]

I tried something like that with our first Doberman and it had 0 effect.

 

[Sunje]

To me, this simply says "lack of good training". This is the main reason why I won't get a rescue. You are not only supporting BYBs (in the majority of instances), but you are taking on someone else's throwaway that they screwed up. I realize that some rescues are wonderful dogs, but many were given up b/c the original morons who owned the dog either did not train it properly, did not train it at all, or were overly hard on the dog.

While every dog is different (and I will say that Brio is THE most challenging dog I've ever owned), the majority of them can be taught to be respectful, happy companions. But when you take on baggage from a previous owner/bad experience, you may not be able to work through it. I've seen plenty of that w/ rescues.

I would look at Warwick Schiller's horse training method, just to get an idea. There's plenty from his methods that I've applied to dog training too, most of that being "work w/ the animal you have in front of you", learning to be a calm leader, learning to reward the slightest try and build on that. And you are already familiar w/ Michael Ellis, who I think is one of the best dog trainers out there. The problem w/ looking at or watching videos from many different trainers is that you tend to get mixed up. Far better to pick one training method/trainer that you can really relate to and stick w/ that. When you have more experience, then you can look at different techniques and pick what you like and throw out what you don't.

 

[BGpa]

Thanks @JanS and @Sunje its the experience delivered with discretion and by anecdotes that AI can never replace, only refer to...so your replies have far reaching impact.

Good tip on Warwicke method. Horses and dogs are energy beings. "Center myself first", goes a long way.

12 Principles of Training

MAKE THE WRONG THING HARD AND THE RIGHT THING EASY The basic tenant of this principle is leave your horse alone while he is doing what you want. DON’T GO

warwickschiller.com

 

[Sunje]

Thanks @JanS and @Sunje its the experience delivered with discretion and by anecdotes that AI can never replace, only refer to...so your replies have far reaching impact.

Good tip on Warwicke method. Horses and dogs are energy beings. "Center myself first", goes a long way.

12 Principles of Training

MAKE THE WRONG THING HARD AND THE RIGHT THING EASY The basic tenant of this principle is leave your horse alone while he is doing what you want. DON’T GO

warwickschiller.com

He is one of the few good ones. Most of them are just fair, and some are downright evil (ie, Clinton Anderson).

 

[BGpa]

He is one of the few good ones. Most of them are just fair, and some are downright evil (ie, Clinton Anderson).

I had the good luck to be involved with horses as a dad of daughter riding hunter-jumper. Way too many stories but, yes: my best tip learned here has been "learn from the dog in front of you"...and I have lots more to do.