Bullmastiffs

The Tibetan Mastiff is so often shown like that – like some sort of roaring beast.

The second picture has to be doctored. No way the dog's that big. Am I stating the obvious?
It says that they are 26” to 30” for males
24” to 28” for females. Weight between 100 to 160lbs. Must have had his fur blown dry for maximum big hair and the guy must be around 5’ tall. Lol
 
After all this discussion, were you able to get closer to a decision? Do you like these dogs better than the Doberman? Is another Doberman in your future?
 
After all this discussion, were you able to get closer to a decision? Do you like these dogs better than the Doberman? Is another Doberman in your future?
How nice of you to ask! The short answer is maybe. Most likely I will stick with Dobermans.

It's nice to continue to build upon almost a quarter century of experience with one breed. I know Dobermans pretty well and can tout my experience to breeders in the future. I like the breed a lot. It really is pretty much the best breed for me. In fact, I have long considered myself to sort of be a lot like the Doberman if I am going to compare myself to a breed. Physically, though, I can't claim the same. I'm not overly tall or purebred. Pit Bull mix is closer. A really good looking one. :rofl:

So, yeah, I continue to think about it – to let my mind wander. It's fun to think about.
 
Bullmastiff pros:

Large (I especially long for this after getting stuck with a flippin' 69 lb. male Dobe)

Intimidating appearance, and presumably, bark

Lower energy and exercise/activity needs

Great-looking, hopefully

Not overly popular

Breed was designed to be a guard

Doberman pros:

The breed's purpose fits very well with my needs – personal bodyguard. One of my jobs is the security of my family.

Intelligence

Many-faceted mind – the Doberman is several different things, and I like that.

Athletic – good running/hiking partner. If I need my dog to jump a fence with me he's capable. Carrying a Bullmastiff over a fence is pretty much not going to happen, especially as I get older.

Virtually no drool

A coat that is as maintenance and mess-free as exists

Black coat – I am kinda' antisocial and like to walk my Dobe at night and not draw attention to myself.

Not a popular breed. I like to be different.

Can fit in tight spaces

Trainability. The breed is naturally inclined to learn, and be taught, and to serve its master.

Likes to be with its family so much that it is not likely to run off and get lost

Bullmastiff cons:

Drool and slobber!! I know this varies by individual dog, but it's likely to be a big factor.

Takes more space in the house and car

Eats more food?

More cost for medications due to higher weight

Maybe not as intelligent, and as complex? I don't want a dog that just seems very simple minded and sort of dumb. I walk a couple English Bulldogs and they just don't seem to have much going on up there. Just seems a very simple creature.

Is the breed really reliable with my child? You don't hear about a lot of maulings involving the breed in particular, but they are a mastiff/bulldog type. You almost never hear about a Doberman really mauling anyone.

Doberman cons:

Slow-maturing – physically and mentally. I don't like that it can take about 1/2 the Dobe's life for it to be filled out. This is especially important if I wind up with a physically diminutive specimen with a dainty head (ahem, Oji)

High energy and the demands that come with it

Whining!!!

May be on breed–ban lists

The stress of hoping their ears will stand

Heat intolerance

Hates to swim
 
Well here's some more food for thought for you. A friend of mine sent me this video and wanted to know why the doberman didn't make the cut.
 
Except for when coming off the water bowl. It is insane how much water comes out of Ragnar's mouth.

My wife has a fit every time, looks at me as if I have a plausible explanation or solution. "Sew his mouth shut!!! Super glue...something!!"

He gets water EVERYWHERE.....

I have gotten to where if I see him drink, I will stand over him and lightly move his head left/right to drain his mouth on the towel under the water bowl. All the while, saying shake, shake, shake.

Don't know if it will absorb in his brain but maybe one day, it will click to shake his head a little after drinking?.?.?
Haha - I’m late to replying to this and maybe it’s been mentioned but there is an actual thread on the shapes of water bowl dribble.

I keep a a hand towel under the dog bowls ( mine are elevated) and mop up with it after each drink.
 
Well here's some more food for thought for you. A friend of mine sent me this video and wanted to know why the doberman didn't make the cut.
I quickly watched this and fast forwarded some parts but I think they’re qualifying it as “large” breed 100+lbs so the dobie would not be in that category and probably why all the mastiff types. At least that’s what I got out of the video.
 
I quickly watched this and fast forwarded some parts but I think they’re qualifying it as “large” breed 100+lbs so the dobie would not be in that category and probably why all the mastiff types. At least that’s what I got out of the video.
I saw the picture of the comically enlarged dog so I didn't even watch the video. I assumed it was trying to be funny.
 
the dobie would not be in that category



Exactly what I told her. She's always busting my chops because I am a doberman person. She has 3 little mutts and thinks no one should own a pure bred dog. :rolleyes:


I saw the picture of the comically enlarged dog


Not sure why that pic is even there. The video has nothing to do with that pic. It just goes over traits of larger protective breeds. How accurate it is I don't know. I don't know much about some of the breeds they discuss.
 

This dog does it for me! Look at this guy's head size. He is nice and square in body (not sure if the breed is required to be) and he's not too high in the hips.

I do wish Bullmastiffs were taller though.

What do y'all think of the breeder Crimson King Bullmastiffs?
 
Am I missing something? Where is the WEBSITE??? I can only find them on FB. And I can't find the health testing, not saying they don't. Navigating FB pages sucks...
 
Am I missing something? Where is the WEBSITE??? I can only find them on FB. And I can't find the health testing, not saying they don't. Navigating FB pages sucks...
I hit the "About" button on the left side of the F'book screen. That is where businesses should provide an overview of themselves and any contact information including website if there is one. They list a website but it comes up with nothing.

http://www.crimsonkingbullmastiffs.com

Some businesses these days do not invest in a website and just use F'book instead. Sooo, yes, this does beg the question: Where is the statement on health testing?
 
This is a very interesting article:

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It talks about some very detailed, nuanced qualities of different types of guarding and herding dogs. It suggests that the current (well, this article is years old too) state of the Bullmastiff which seems to be a rather lazy dog that is almost never used in protection-ortiented sports. It is bred for appearance most often.

It mentions a few Bullmastiffs that succeeded in trials and they were a mere 90 lbs. and 80 lbs. and able to jump fences.

I tend to agree. From what I've seen these intimidating looking dogs rely on appearance and size for warding off attacks. I have not seen any examples of credible protection work.
 

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