US Breeders with export experience?

[DKryptos]

If a breeder is willing to do one shady thing, such as lying on paperwork where the puppy is born for shipping, I would not be able to trust them with anything else.

Yeah, Ive asked them to send me info on some Belgian Clients to ask but it has been a while so they cant find it atm. Not worth the risk imo. I think my best bet is check when I am ready and found a good breeder in the US then book a ticket for a day or 4 or a week tops to meet the breeder, the pup, and then come back with the pup when all is done. But yeah, it's gonna take some planning and finding the right breeder

 

[JanS]

One breeder from Serbia (Tejat Posterior) my friend has a couple from are both doing well. She (the friend) lives here in the US and they were imported at that time.

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[DKryptos]

One breeder from Serbia (Tejat Posterior) my friend has a couple from are both doing well. She (the friend) lives here in the US and they were imported at that time.

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I appreciate it but then I have the same issue as I mentioned, they need a bloodwork test after 30 days when they receive their rabies vaccine and then the pup has to stay there for 3 months.

Bringing your pet dog, cat or ferret to Great Britain found a UK site talking about it.

 

[DKryptos]

Yes, on average, I think this is a ballpark summarize. But be aware that there are those that do not fall into that. You could get a high drive jacked up NA (North American) or a lazy ass European. Looks are generally the same too…NA are slimmer more sleek whereas Euro are blockier.
But it really depends on what the breeder breeds for…my first male was 100% NA with Conformation Grand Champions all in his pedigree but I swear that boy displayed a hell of a lot more Euro in him than NA.
Freyja- my female is most definitely a NA with some SA in her. She comes from a different well known breeder that has great success with following the Doberman standard with good temperament and characteristics. Freyja is not near as jacked up and wild as my first one. I never really paid too much attention to breeder tendencies until I noticed the physical characteristic differences between mine.

Anyway, seems to me your problem is gonna be finding a breeder that produces the type of Doberman you want. You have no children to bide your time and can put forth the majority of your time with training and bonding with your pup. This is actually ideal and your Doberman will thrive on that. Tbh, that’s really what they were made for. It’s absolutely crazy and special how tight your relationship can be together. He will learn your moves, your thoughts and be there before you get up to perform the action. You are their only world and they do not want to do anything unless it’s with you. A very special relationship if you do it right.

I think you are looking for a mid range Euro or a cross of a NA/Euro. Mid range Euro- one that is not extremely high drive, has a good on/off button, able to settle but turn on when you give him the look. More blocky looking and muscular with a more boxy snout.

They do have some breeders in the US that cross NA/Euro trying to get the best of the both worlds. Sleek but powerful look- bigger, muscular but not so blocky.

Ideally, you would love that look but really, you are looking for the breeding line of a good temperament, impulse control, a good drive but nut crazy arse, and on/off button. For this you really have to dig, research and talk to a lot of breeders and people to get first hand experience on what kind of pups they produce. A good breeder can produce a litter and has the ability to decipher if one of their pups meets the characteristics you are looking for. If not, then they tend to know a circle of breeders that do have the characteristics you are looking for.


I remember with my first one, all I had to do was give home a certain look- his ear went straight, head up and if I nodded my head up/down…it was on. My wife hated it when I did that.

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Thanks alot for this detailed info, and yeah how you describe it sounds like the perfect dobie for me!
Only thing we have are 2 cats but yeah its training and space to get them used to each other when the time comes. I will ask breeders about this didn't even think about it. But yeah I was lioking and reading and thought damn, I would love the body of an eu dobie but temperament of a NA dobie

 

[JanS]

I would love the body of an eu dobie but temperament of a NA dobie

Both of ours have South American lines and IMO a really nice balance between the two.

 

[Ravenbird]

they need a bloodwork test after 30 days when they receive their rabies vaccine and then the pup has to stay there for 3 months.

Have you looked into age of puppies now for exporting from US to Belgium? There was a change for importing to USA to 6 months of age but I don't know if changes were made about shipping them out.

 

[Ddski5]

Why am I thinking of a breeder name something like Lapard?? That’s not right but I think close. Out of Europe?
@JanS
@Ravenbird

 

[JanS]

Why am I thinking of a breeder name something like Lapard??

You are close but it's Liparland. She's out of Serbia too but apparently that won't work. @GennyB 's Rumor was from there too.

 

[Ddski5]

I would love the body of an eu dobie but temperament of a NA dobie

They are out there, you just have to research, dig and call to find the breeder.

Now don’t be fooled with the NA, you can get an asskicking NA…but the more common NA breeders are conformation show breeders.

Knowing what I know now…most definitely find the right breeder that understands what you are looking for- don’t be afraid to ask questions- don’t be afraid to walk away from one- ask to see if you can talk to some of their recipients.
You absolutely don’t want to be impulsive and jump on the first breeder just because they say, “Yeah…we got what you want”.

As you are well aware, having a Doberman pup is an EVERYDAY piece of life- not like a car you drive and then park in the garage. Make sure you find what you want.

 

[DKryptos]

Have you looked into age of puppies now for exporting from US to Belgium? There was a change for importing to USA to 6 months of age but I don't know if changes were made about shipping them out.

Yeah, US is in the list of EU Legislation which means after its basic rabies vaccine pup can come to the EU at 15 weeks of age

 

[DKryptos]

They are out there, you just have to research, dig and call to find the breeder.

Now don’t be fooled with the NA, you can get an asskicking NA…but the more common NA breeders are conformation show breeders.

Knowing what I know now…most definitely find the right breeder that understands what you are looking for- don’t be afraid to ask questions- don’t be afraid to walk away from one- ask to see if you can talk to some of their recipients.
You absolutely don’t want to be impulsive and jump on the first breeder just because they say, “Yeah…we got what you want”.

As you are well aware, having a Doberman pup is an EVERYDAY piece of life- not like a car you drive and then park in the garage. Make sure you find what you want.

Yeah, I will do that. It is an important decision and I don't want to rush it as I've said before. As much as I'd like a dobie right away I will take my time. I already decided that a trip to the states is a must when I find and connect with one breeder. I am already happy I am wise enough to step away if my gut feeling isn't right just as I did with this Serbian breeder, younger me would've acted differently I am sure of that.