The Truth About the Warlock Doberman

[MichiH]

It's interesting but a Doberman friend was here a couple days ago and she said her past male was from a BYB and he was 210#. I said two hundred? She said yes so I asked her if they were going after the warlock traits and she also said yes. She wasn't going for size with him since she got him as a young pup but now, a dozen or so years later she has a beautiful girl within the standards and she's every bit as much of a deterrent as the way over sized one was.

220?! That’s absurd and so unhealthy. Poor dogs. Happy she has a standard sized Doberman now.

 

[BGpa]

This is an old thread, but it is a horribly ignorant thread that needs an appropriate response.
The AKC standard allows for a whopping 25-30 pound swing in weight, but only 2 inches in height. This is nearly a 50% size difference. Further, the AKC is essentially claiming that any Dobermann outside this criteria isn't actually a really real Dobermann, it's a pretend one. This type of pretentious gatekeeping is disgusting, and it needs to be ignored.
If I want a Dobermann for protection, it's size has immediate psycological deterence. A 26 inch, 60 pound Dobermann is not as intimidating as a 32 inch 115 pound Dobermann. So let's just stop the snooty silliness.
So what are the 4 body types a Dobermann can have? They are:
Am-Can Standards - the AKC version.
Supers or Goliaths - Two different names used to describe the exact same towering, vertical frame. Extremely tall and leggy, pushing 31 to 33+ inches at the shoulder. Bred with the height, long stride, and elongated frame of a Great Dane.
Warlocks or Gladiators - Shares the thick bone density and blocky look of its Rottweiler DNA. Thick, broad-chested, and heavily muscled.
King - these are the largest, having the traits of Goliaths and Warlocks. Not as tall as Goliaths, nor as broad as Warlocks, but still bigger than both.
These are very necessary terms in the real world, where a Dobermann can be as small as 24 inches and 50 pounds to as large as 32 plus inches and over 110 pounds. They also look different in body thickness to leg proportions.
So let's chill on the arrogance and preaching. These are all real Doberman with cool descriptors that let you know what you're dealing with.

Welcome!

Speaking strictly for myself-
honestly dont see much "arrogance or preaching" here.

Not in the roughly 2 years plus I've been reading here. You may be confusing this with other places on the innertoobs.

Actually, to be frank- for a brand new poster this seems to be a bit impolite at best.
But hey, I am a fan of honest debate on the facts, and if it becomes more about ad homs, or other poor behavior just refer to the TOS, and defer to @JanS who is gracious but doesnt suffer fools gladly (looking in mirror? )

Anyway- more on the wide range of choices in the dobe market, as a subset of the dog market is a worthy topic.

Maybe start a new thread with an intro for context;
Do you have a dobe? Post pics.
Are you breeding dobes?
Feel free to share more.
Looking for one?
Lots of good info here in archives.

 

[JanS]

Happy she has a standard sized Doberman now.

She's a member here but has a lot going on right now. Maybe she will chime in when things start settling down.

 

[BGpa]

This is an old thread, but it is a horribly ignorant thread that needs an appropriate response.
The AKC standard allows for a whopping 25-30 pound swing in weight, but only 2 inches in height. This is nearly a 50% size difference. Further, the AKC is essentially claiming that any Dobermann outside this criteria isn't actually a really real Dobermann, it's a pretend one. This type of pretentious gatekeeping is disgusting, and it needs to be ignored.
If I want a Dobermann for protection, it's size has immediate psycological deterence. A 26 inch, 60 pound Dobermann is not as intimidating as a 32 inch 115 pound Dobermann. So let's just stop the snooty silliness.
So what are the 4 body types a Dobermann can have? They are:
Am-Can Standards - the AKC version.
Supers or Goliaths - Two different names used to describe the exact same towering, vertical frame. Extremely tall and leggy, pushing 31 to 33+ inches at the shoulder. Bred with the height, long stride, and elongated frame of a Great Dane.
Warlocks or Gladiators - Shares the thick bone density and blocky look of its Rottweiler DNA. Thick, broad-chested, and heavily muscled.
King - these are the largest, having the traits of Goliaths and Warlocks. Not as tall as Goliaths, nor as broad as Warlocks, but still bigger than both.
These are very necessary terms in the real world, where a Dobermann can be as small as 24 inches and 50 pounds to as large as 32 plus inches and over 110 pounds. They also look different in body thickness to leg proportions.
So let's chill on the arrogance and preaching. These are all real Doberman with cool descriptors that let you know what you're dealing with.

@Laedeke
Here is tbe breed standard from 1982:

Breed Standard | DPCA

dpca.org

Updated in 2006 by this judges manual:

Breed Standard | DPCA

dpca.org

The weight is only referenced as "balanced", but there is a very helpful diagram from overhead to help owners see if their dog is too light or heavy, proportionally.

I believe the German FCI standard includes standard weighg scale.

Are you located in the NA or EU?

 

[BGpa]

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