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Not my thing, but out of curiosity...

@bomary I want to clarify- I have nothing against e collars, and when introduced properly they are a great tool, especially for recall, however when the "training facility" makes you sign a waiver in case of burns from an e collar, it doesn't sound to me as though they are doing it right.

@Drogon I forgot I wanted to tag you in my earlier post, because I knew you did day training too. Sorry, by the time I got done getting my thoughts out I forgot!

@Prushanks, I do that all.the.time too! I'm always hitting disagree by accident!
 
Oh, and our day training wasn't insanely priced. Its something new the facility is starting, and I think she said $90 a week with a minimum of 3 days a week. And you can choose how many weeks- they recommend at least 3 weeks though. Their normal day boarding is $20 a day, so an extra $10 to include all that training? Yes please!
 
our trainer is a doberman lover. He almost exclusively trains with the owner at their house, but has taken a dog to his house for a few days if there is a problem that the owner and dog are just not coming together on... but only for a few days, and only one dog at a time.. I personally think that 6-8 weeks is too long, but thats just me.. I was able to work through whatever problems Katie and I had at home, and never had to consider a separation ..I dont think I could do it!
 
@bomary I want to clarify- I have nothing against e collars, and when introduced properly they are a great tool, especially for recall, however when the "training facility" makes you sign a waiver in case of burns from an e collar, it doesn't sound to me as though they are doing it right.

@Drogon I forgot I wanted to tag you in my earlier post, because I knew you did day training too. Sorry, by the time I got done getting my thoughts out I forgot!

@Prushanks, I do that all.the.time too! I'm always hitting disagree by accident!

I don't know how to "mention" someone in a post (where it shows the @__________), so....

MischasMomma...I didn't read it as you being against the e-collar...I assumed you just didn't feel comfortable with them being exclusively e-collar and no prong. I wouldn't be comfortable with someone deciding which they would use without knowing what level of correction my boy needs. I don't know enough about those collars to really have an opinion, but I trust you guys and I feel that there is clearly a place for them (especially with recall). I would definitely not be okay with using one without very good training on it, and I wouldn't want a trainer using one on my dog unless I knew the trainer very well, watched them using one, and trusted them with my baby. There will likely come a time when I find that I need to learn about them.

I ended up not having the chance to talk to the trainer yesterday because my whole dang family came down with a virus...probably from all of the students who have been sick at my school and my Mom's school...UGH!!...parents please keep sick kids at home!!...I'd rather get them caught up on work than feel like crap!

Since I was up most of the night (Jax sure didn't notice...snoring and "purring" through it all!...guard dog extraordinaire!!), I thought a lot about maybe having him spend the day with her a couple of days a week. Even if she didn't have time (because she has the other dogs out there) to work with me on what he learned when I got there after work, I could just arrange to come out on Saturdays to spend an hour or two.

Katie'sMom: I agree that 6-8 weeks seems excessive....maybe it's because most of her dogs are being trained to hunt, track, etc?? Even so, I don't know why they wouldn't go home and come back...I understand a few nights with her if they are struggling with something. I truly think I would become clinically depressed if my baby "moved in" with someone else!! I know that dogs aren't people, but I have to think he would notice that Mom wasn't doing "snuggle time" and our other daily things! Right?

I'm going to try to talk to her during my conference period today...it might be better if I didn't ask all of my questions over the phone...just set up a time on Saturday to head over there to talk in person. I was planning to do that on Saturday anyway because the last thing she and I worked on were leash pulling and turns. He is doing really well on those now, but is getting over excited at the end of walks (usually when he sees the house/knows we are almost home and is ready for dinner??) It stresses me out because he jumps up and tries to grab the leash very close to my hand...sometimes teeth touch skin. I don't think it's because he isn't getting enough exercise because our evening walk is always after practicing things in the back yard and then just playing ball for a while.

Another thing...and I know you guys will have strong opinions about this...I can take it!...Jax doesn't sleep with me; his night time crate is next to my bed. However, as a first time owner, I think I might have caused a problem with letting him on the couch with me to snuggle (I actually blame my Mother, because she "caved" first! jk). He usually just cuddles up and eventually falls asleep. Lately, he is squirmy and won't settle. If he isn't actively chewing on something, he will thrash around with his mouth open...?? (He is teething and I can see where he has two teeth gone in the back (bottom, one on each side). Because he is so big now, his thrashing about with his mouth open makes me nervous...he isn't growling or acting aggressively at all...I just want to catch a potential problem before it happens. Ideas/opinions??...again, I know this is my fault for not setting boundaries when he was smaller, so that ship has sailed. Where can I go from here? I would miss him if I try to do a "no furniture ever" rule (which I wouldn't know how to do anyway), but is it too late to teach him "invitation only" about furniture?

Sorry so long and covering a couple of topics...I've said before that I struggle with "long story short!"
 
On a totally unrelated side note.. the ratings are driving me crazy being so close together!! I keep trying to press "agree" and i press "disagree"!!! Blargh!
You mean from your phone? I never used to do much from my phone and have just started recently and notice that. I don't have a lot of trouble with it but sometimes I will 'enlarge' the screen to be sure to touch what I want to touch! You know how you can 'pinch' the screen? Just enlarge it and you can easily touch the correct rating.

I don't know how to "mention" someone in a post (where it shows the @__________), so....
@bomary To "mention" or "Tag" someone just hit this symbol @ followed by the members user name. As you start typing the name, suggestions will pup up to help you if you don't remember the whole name or the spelling. Click on it and you are good to continue typing. Remember, there is no spacing between the @ and the name or after the name.

I ended up not having the chance to talk to the trainer yesterday because my whole dang family came down with a virus
Oh, dear, I got the flu on Feb 1 and I swear it wasn't completely over until about the 10th or later! :shock: Good luck!

. Where can I go from here? I would miss him if I try to do a "no furniture ever" rule (which I wouldn't know how to do anyway), but is it too late to teach him "invitation only" about furniture?
I doubt anything is 'too late' as long as you are consistent and make the rules clear. I've never wanted Buddy on my bed or couch. Since I got him from the breeder at 7 months, he must have been taught that already because he never tried! It was pretty cool. :) I don't know how you do it by 'invitation only'. It must be confusing? I would think the times I say 'no bed' Buddy would sit there and whine like, "But (sad face) you let me yesterday??" :rofl:

Maybe others here have done it and can explain.
 
You mean from your phone? I never used to do much from my phone and have just started recently and notice that. I don't have a lot of trouble with it but sometimes I will 'enlarge' the screen to be sure to touch what I want to touch! You know how you can 'pinch' the screen? Just enlarge it and you can easily touch the correct rating.


@bomary To "mention" or "Tag" someone just hit this symbol @ followed by the members user name. As you start typing the name, suggestions will pup up to help you if you don't remember the whole name or the spelling. Click on it and you are good to continue typing. Remember, there is no spacing between the @ and the name or after the name.


Oh, dear, I got the flu on Feb 1 and I swear it wasn't completely over until about the 10th or later! :shock: Good luck!


I doubt anything is 'too late' as long as you are consistent and make the rules clear. I've never wanted Buddy on my bed or couch. Since I got him from the breeder at 7 months, he must have been taught that already because he never tried! It was pretty cool. :) I don't know how you do it by 'invitation only'. It must be confusing? I would think the times I say 'no bed' Buddy would sit there and whine like, "But (sad face) you let me yesterday??" :rofl:

Maybe others here have done it and can explain.

Thank you so much for all the info. Yeah, this "bug" appears to be long lasting from what I've heard. I hate to miss work because I was out for my knee surgery, but I HATE when people come to work/school sick!
I tend to agree on the confusion with invitation only. I just couldn't resist him on the couch with me! That is pretty cool that yours already had that little rule established!!! Dang me!
 
I tend to agree on the confusion with invitation only. I just couldn't resist him on the couch with me! That is pretty cool that yours already had that little rule established!!! Dang me!
We all do what works for us individually. If you enjoy him on the couch with you there's nothing wrong with it as long as there is no dominance going on with your dog. Once they try and 'take control' somehow like guarding or like the recent members that were bit, OFF they go, in my book. They lost that convenience of the couch and making them lay down on the floor gets them lower than your head, putting you back in power. Some dogs never give their owners an ouch of problem when allowed on the bed and couch. Some start out that way and seem to gain power in it and give problems later with respect.

I'm a sprawler when I sleep and cannot stand the feeling of being trapped with a dog on top of me or even next to me so I can't move. It's sweet when they are puppies, but when they get to be 90 lbs, :eek:
 
Mischa is sort of invitation only. We have a love seat which is more for space filling- we never sit on it honestly, and she gets on there on her own, but the couch we sit on, she will only get on when we call her up. I'm not much help on training that, Because she just sort of did it. I did however work a lot on having her lay on the floor at my feet and settle on the floor so she didn't think she needed to be on A couch at all times- if she wasn't with us, shed get on the love seat, like she was allergic to the floor or something! She still prefers the couch (the floor IS tile, so not super comfortable but we have an area rug too) but she won't jump on "our" couch or whine to get up if we don't call her up.
 
... they wanted $4000.

I was wondering if anybody was going to bring up the COST... (somebodies gonna have to tell me how to copy other post to mine)
 
(somebodies gonna have to tell me how to copy other post to mine)
Highlight the portion you want to copy (quote). Then you'll see 2 options "Quote|Reply", click Quote. Then go down to where you would type a new reply and you should see the option to Insert Quotes - click it. One more click to "Quote these messages".
HTH
 
... they wanted $4000.

I was wondering if anybody was going to bring up the COST... (somebodies gonna have to tell me how to copy other post to mine)

I only brought that up because it seemed to be a ridiculous amount to me. I wonder if that varies based on the training facility and/or location?

And Dragon already covered how to quote lol
 
I only brought that up because it seemed to be a ridiculous amount to me. I wonder if that varies based on the training facility and/or location?
I agree that 4000 is a ridiculous amount unless we are talking about SPECIALIZED training...or if your pet has dangerous behavioral issues? IDK, me and my money just don't roll like that. I feel there is enough info available to handle basic obedience on your own. That's just me and my 2 cents. :P
 
... they wanted $4000.

I was wondering if anybody was going to bring up the COST... (somebodies gonna have to tell me how to copy other post to mine)

If you hit "reply" it will quote that particular post with your response at the bottom of the thread. I'm still trying to figure out how to "tag" someone or "mention" them in a response. I am going to talk to this trainer this evening, but I'm not going to tell her the details about what I want until I see her in person!! (It's easier for me to say "no" over the phone than in person, and I want to convince her to let me do the day thing that was brought up here!) Anyway, since I haven't negotiated this little arrangement yet, I don't know what it will cost. I will let you know when I find out.
I agree that 4000 is a ridiculous amount unless we are talking about SPECIALIZED training...or if your pet has dangerous behavioral issues? IDK, me and my money just don't roll like that. I feel there is enough info available to handle basic obedience on your own. That's just me and my 2 cents. :p

Oh Lord, I would do anything for my boy, but $4000 (or anything approaching that) is far too steep for me! (school teacher!) One good thing about living down here in the "sticks" in North Texas, is cost on these things is relatively low! We are heading over there tomorrow to work on a couple of things (dang leash biting when excited!) and to talk about what I want to do with his training from here on. I did see that there is a pretty good looking school about 45 minutes away where we could do classes on Saturdays. I might do that in addition to what I decide here just to continue his socialization with different dogs/people. He did that silly class at Petsmart, but that consisted of walking around the store and watching other dogs fight their humans/leashes. This school has a really large training facility with some obstacle courses, etc., and you work with different trainers and dogs on different skills during the courses. Here is a link...what do y'all think? The Power of Positive Training | Zoom Room Dog Training. Forty five minutes probably sounds a little far, but from where I am, I pretty much have to drive a bit to get ANYWHERE worthwhile!...I mean dang, Starbucks is twenty minutes away!! Plus, I really look forward to opportunities to get Jax out and about!
In other "news," this touched my heart to the absolute core yesterday. I have a student (freshman boy) who has many, MANY special needs..."emotionally disturbed," "anger problems," etc., etc., etc. I hate these labels because teachers sometimes think they know a student prior to even working with him. When asked if it would be okay to have him in my "general education" class (instead of his isolated room for most of the day), I said it was absolutely okay, and I have never regretted that. I've not had a single problem with him until last week when he had an outburst (verbal only) because he was frustrated with a game we were playing. Since then, I have been able to tell he feels bad and sad about that "incident." Yesterday he couldn't even wait until his class period to come see me. He came in early to present this drawing to me. The happiness and pride he had in being able to do this for me were priceless. It made my day (week/month)! I know it's off topic, but I had to share....what a special, precious, good-hearted boy...in so many ways! After seeing my delight, he's gonna start working on a puppy drawing for me! He is also "researching" the breed and shares info/videos with me frequently!
 

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If you hit "reply" it will quote that particular post with your response at the bottom of the thread. I'm still trying to figure out how to "tag" someone or "mention" them in a response. I am going to talk to this trainer this evening, but I'm not going to tell her the details about what I want until I see her in person!! (It's easier for me to say "no" over the phone than in person, and I want to convince her to let me do the day thing that was brought up here!) Anyway, since I haven't negotiated this little arrangement yet, I don't know what it will cost. I will let you know when I find out.


Oh Lord, I would do anything for my boy, but $4000 (or anything approaching that) is far too steep for me! (school teacher!) One good thing about living down here in the "sticks" in North Texas, is cost on these things is relatively low! We are heading over there tomorrow to work on a couple of things (dang leash biting when excited!) and to talk about what I want to do with his training from here on. I did see that there is a pretty good looking school about 45 minutes away where we could do classes on Saturdays. I might do that in addition to what I decide here just to continue his socialization with different dogs/people. He did that silly class at Petsmart, but that consisted of walking around the store and watching other dogs fight their humans/leashes. This school has a really large training facility with some obstacle courses, etc., and you work with different trainers and dogs on different skills during the courses. Here is a link...what do y'all think? The Power of Positive Training | Zoom Room Dog Training. Forty five minutes probably sounds a little far, but from where I am, I pretty much have to drive a bit to get ANYWHERE worthwhile!...I mean dang, Starbucks is twenty minutes away!! Plus, I really look forward to opportunities to get Jax out and about!
In other "news," this touched my heart to the absolute core yesterday. I have a student (freshman boy) who has many, MANY special needs..."emotionally disturbed," "anger problems," etc., etc., etc. I hate these labels because teachers sometimes think they know a student prior to even working with him. When asked if it would be okay to have him in my "general education" class (instead of his isolated room for most of the day), I said it was absolutely okay, and I have never regretted that. I've not had a single problem with him until last week when he had an outburst (verbal only) because he was frustrated with a game we were playing. Since then, I have been able to tell he feels bad and sad about that "incident." Yesterday he couldn't even wait until his class period to come see me. He came in early to present this drawing to me. The happiness and pride he had in being able to do this for me were priceless. It made my day (week/month)! I know it's off topic, but I had to share....what a special, precious, good-hearted boy...in so many ways! After seeing my delight, he's gonna start working on a puppy drawing for me! He is also "researching" the breed and shares info/videos with me frequently!

HA! I just noticed that there is an ear post I was working on in that picture!!
 
I'm still trying to figure out how to "tag" someone or "mention" them in a response

Sorry, I answered you but it probably got missed in my post with others things above. Try this:

@bomary To "mention" or "Tag" someone just hit this symbol @ followed by the members user name. As you start typing the name, suggestions will pup up to help you if you don't remember the whole name or the spelling. Click on it and you are good to continue typing. Remember, there is no spacing between the @ and the name or after the name.
 
Sorry, I answered you but it probably got missed in my post with others things above. Try this:
whoops!...sorry, yes I did miss that...if I read things on my phone, my blind a** misses a lot of stuff! Thank you! So the color won't change on my computer, but if the name automatically pops up when I'm typing after @, and I click on it, it is "tagging" the person, right? ...I am a technophobe and have minimal computer knowledge/skill!
 
So the color won't change on my computer, but if the name automatically pops up when I'm typing after @, and I click on it, it is "tagging" the person, right?
Yes. When the name pops up (sometimes there are several suggestions, so simply pick the one you wanted) click on it and it will show up like this @bomary , tagging the person in their alerts.
 
My favorite thing is taking the mouse, highlighting a word, sentence or portion of, sometimes a very long post, and replying to it. I have yet to figure out if you can do that on a phone! lol I don't know how you highlight like that on a phone. :p

Like this:
He did that silly class at Petsmart,

It's so nice not to have to 'grab' the whole post when I want to respond to a sentence. :D
 

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