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Jazz progress report

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by jazzies mum, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. MyBuddy

    MyBuddy Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I think Kali can beat him! ;)

     
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  2. Tropicalbri's

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    Absolutely agree!! Our little speed demon Kali would have gone around that lure course twice to his once. :spit:
     
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  3. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    ^^^^^^^^ Yep, never underestimate how fast the little guys can move them legs! :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    Ya that Doberman didn’t seem to be running full out, it was a nicely controlled run.
     
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  5. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    So just a question. I took Jazz to the markets again on Sunday and she behaved well. She wanted to play with one dog but only did a couple of bounces on the spot with light correction, was calm in the presence of many small dogs, stood patiently while I talked to people for a while and accepted unsolicited petting from several people. (This is a real problem, she seems to be a magnet for that as well as loose dogs!) Because of going into a fairly busy place with kids and dogs I had her prong collar on, and she seemed to be sort of flat in it, almost seemed down and lacking her usual joy in things. Has anyone had a dog that indicates it is finished with needing the prong? One part of me thinks this can't be the case, dogs don't think like that, but it sure seems like it!

    I have been doing all her home training with just her flat collar and the last time I took her in to her vets we just used a light chain choker collar and this was enough if it was up in the same position as the prong collar sits. She no longer ever lunges with full force or tries to drag me around, so it is really just the excited bouncing that only needs light correction, however I don't think we are at the stage of having enough control to be in busy, unpredictable places in her flat collar. Now I have decided to get a chain martingale collar and rig it up to sit behind her ears, see if she is happy but controlled in that! The choke collar is a left over from my previous dog, but isn't the right thing for Jazz.
     
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  6. Tropicalbri's

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    @jazzies mum a bit off topic but is a Cassowary native to Australia?
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    It was reported that this bird killed its owner when the man fell. Evidently the bird has a 4” middle talon on both feet and it eviscerated the guy when he fell. Good lord that is freaky.
     
  7. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    Yes, they are native. The live in the far tropical north of the east coast in rain forest. The males especially are very territorial and protective of their young. I think the males care for the chicks the same and the male Emu does. And you really do need to be carefull around them, they are thick set and weighty and not too afraid of anything. They eat fruit so often end up in peoples yards looking for anything yummy around the home fruit trees.

    I didn't hear about this incident, but could well have happened, especially if the bird was being treated as "domestic", which they will never be!
     
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  9. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    That thing gets six feet tall? OMG.

    I’d say certain dogs grow past the point of needing certain corrections. Probably the Ridgeback in her does not require a lifetime of prong like you know who :rolleyes: But the best way to test it, is to shift her on to her other collar. We keep a couple different collars on so we can change over for level of control. When it’s the prong and we’re not sure whether the dog can handle being on the flat, we flip it inside out but leave it on just in case. After a few minutes, we kinda know whether it’s having an impact. In crowds I find he needs less prong control simply due to the busy/distracting environment that keeps him closer to us.
     
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  10. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    @Kaiser2016 What a great idea to leave the prong collar on, but inside out! Then I can see if she is really being inhibited by the collar, or the many people and dogs. Just for fun I might leave her cover off the prong collar and when people ask what all the spikes are for I'll tell them it's to stop unwanted petting! :woot2:

    @Tropicalbri's Wow, that article is really mind blowing. Not just that a Cassowary attacked and killed someone, but the whole idea of there being sought after by collectors! A bit like collecting big cats or venomous snakes I suppose. I always wanted an Ocelot as a child!
     
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  11. Tropicalbri's

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    With all the bizarre things going on in Florida I am starting to think all the bat :poop:crazy people move to Florida. The news is filled with all the crazy things they are doing.
     
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  12. LifeofRubie

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    No Joke - Any time I see a headline that looks way too bizarre to be true, it's 99% out of Florida. All that warm weather messing with people brains?

    @jazzies mum so glad to hear Jazz is doing well for you! Somehow I missed the part about her killing roo's! I bet that lure coursing would be an awesome outlet for her... Work with her natural instinct in a controlled environment. Although I'm surprised in that video you shared that the dog isn't rewarded with any sort of tug or biting action? If Rubie was expected to chase some 'prey' and didn't get rewarded by actually tugging or biting at something, it would seem very unsatisfying I would think?
     
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  13. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    We even get to here about some of it over here on the other side of the world! :rofl:

    I think I've had an inspiration about why Jazz seemed a bit flat and subdued at the markets. Not the prong collar at all, or the people, but me not giving her enough positive reinforcements! The markets have only just started for this tourist season and I really should have taken the time to put her through a refresher course of what I needed from her. Instead she was getting a few mild corrections but no clear indication from me that her behaviour was perfect most of the time! These dogs are so sensitive, really have to remember to let them know they are brilliant!!! :love:

    She outgrew her car harness so she now has a good padded leather tracking harness. We now have some walks where she is learning to move up into the harness with a firm, even pull. Steady at a good fast walk, and no side trips for sniffing. It isn't making her pull when she is walking in her collar, in fact the opposite. I think she enjoys the nice relaxed walk beside me as a rest!

    She continues to give the roos less and less time, and no need to use the e collar for anything more than a gentle reminder to come when called, no matter what good smell there is!

    @LifeofRubie Yes, lure coursing would be wonderful for Jazz. Unfortunately I have done a lot of research and the nearest club is half the state away. :( If I am ever down that way I will definitely give her a go as they seem very open for beginner dogs just there for the experience. Of course, if she excels then I will be wanting to do more, and it would be impossible. A shame.
     
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  14. Tropicalbri's

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    Hahahaha, I hate that our state is the home of the bizarre, weird and just plain bat:poop: crazy and that it’s known worldwide.:eek:
    They call Key West, Key Weird. :p
     
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  15. MyBuddy

    MyBuddy Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    We all have to be known for something. Our state is known for all the politicians in jail. :whistle:
     
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  16. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    More progress.

    Jazz had two nights in kennels with the one full day she was there having daycare activities. She was a bit nuts when I took her in..............in fact she had been nuts almost from the time she opened her eyes in the morning! This would be due to me packing and preparing for a day surgery procedure, (nothing at all serious), which I wasn't consciously too worried about but obviously underneath I wasn't quite my normal self! This is where that Dober intuition works against us, they know more about us than we know about ourselves! :shock:

    When I picked her up this morning she was VERY pleased to see me, and very attentive to my every wish. It seems that the more she has these interactions with other people and dogs the more she attaches to me when I turn up again....................a very good thing! :thumbsup:

    We now have a new pet superstore in town and I took her in to celebrate. She walked nicely with me, no dragging around, was interested in all the sights and smells without getting excited, and, best of all was not trying to interact with all the people, dogs and kids. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: They even had a dog wash bay that you can use and we stopped and watched a dog having its bathtime. So funny the expressions on my girls face as she worked out what was going on................but she remained standing quietly beside me. I let her choose a toy. :love:

    Now we are back home and she has zonked out on her bed and no movement for hours now, apart from that occasional tail wag in the land of nod.
     
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  17. Vinnie's Mom

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    That is so great to hear you are both doing well! Posts like this string of updates continues to give me hope and energy to keep going as I know one day we will have awesome results like yours! Thanks and grats on the results:)
     
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  18. Kaiser2016

    Kaiser2016 Active Member

    These dogs are pretty happy to come back home, that’s for sure. We used to board Kaiser a lot (by comparison to how little everyone else on here seems to) and no matter how great the boarding time was, he was always thrilled to see us and on his best behavior thereafter haha. They are smart, but not smart enough to realize we’d keep sending him away just for the improved behavior lol.

    The pet store outing seemed like a good time too. I always enjoy taking a walk through them. Good indoor training, learning to ignore others. What toy did she pick out? It’s funny to watch them shop huh.

    Happy to hear that both of you are back together again!
     
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  19. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    She chose a tug toy with rope at each end and a really tough fabric bite area in the centre.......with a squeaky in it! So far she just wants to play tug games and hasn't focused on getting at that squeaky. :rofl:

    @Vinnie's Mom Yes, it can be a bit overwhelming sometimes in those young Dobe days! Some days are diamond..............and some are not! Jazz is not quite two and has settled down beautifully, but still has her spirit and character. I know you intend to travel with Vinnie and I think you will find that makes him mature faster as he will have enough to occupy that inquiring mind!

    The funniest thing about the pet store was that as it was Saturday the number of smallish children was high! They were popping their heads around isles with such looks of astonishment at the size of Jazz! I told them that they could pat her if their parents agreed...............they all did a hasty retreat............and I don't think Jazz looked very threatening, or hungry. :lmao: At the counter Jazz just walked up with me and looked at the girl on the checkout over the top of the counter and she couldn't believe it. Said that most of the kids couldn't see over the counter!

    I've also been meaning to mention that regarding the issue of critter chasing I'm happy to report that the new longer range e collar has done the trick. After the initial 3 lessons there has only been one more instance where she had to have a reminder. She now views the presence of Kangaroos as a time to be very, very careful about what she does! :thumbsup:
     
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  20. jazzies mum

    jazzies mum Notable member

    Just for fun, here is the story of the new tug toy........................she enjoyed it!!! :woot2:

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    Gonna kill it! jazz0295.JPG

    Something ripped then..........................KILL IT! jazz0296.JPG

    Nearly dead.
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    Oh well, there is still the nice cotton rope left for a tug toy and she likes that just as much, and she had a LOT of fun with it.
    On our walk this morning she had a "dingleberry", (poop-on-a-thread), and came crabbing and hunched over to me to have it "fixed". I am so glad there was no-one around to see me having to do the removal, with my bare fingertips! :green::green::green: At least it wasn't a really long thread.
     
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