True! I rarely see height & weights on Dobequest. But the titles would (should) be listed. Once you get on their wait list I would assume you could have actual conversation with them and ask about physical size? I could tell by photos that I liked the bitch I was in line to get a puppy from but I asked in a phone conversation with the breeder how much she weighed during her mature sport years, before breeding. I absolutely didn't want a larger girl. I'm just saying know what you personally want and what is most important to you and what you are willing to compromise on - then ask the breeder how their dogs match up to what you're looking for.
My biggest frustration in looking at breeders and their information to sort through is that it's practically non-existent, especially from some of the best breeders. I know they are busy, but when nothing is updated for years or you can't even find a website or a FB page it's just sad. You want to see photos and pedigrees and paired matings. All they have to do is post a banner at the top and say their wait list is years long and they aren't taking applications, but still a yearly update so you learn what lines are successful & what you are attracted to is so helpful. Of course there are many that are open and out there, but half the time the fanciest websites are not at all the best breeders. So much to sift through, especially for first time buyers. Your opening statement is what I'm referring to - one of the best breeders in the country and to search her out to even apply for a puppy seems impossible if you don't have direct contacts. Sigh.
These two breeders have been around yrs. Sharjet 40+ and Irongate 60+. Neither of them have FB or websites. Most of the breeders on DPCA'S breeder referral list didn't have either in the past. Some are beginning to have websites or FB ,but it's usually the newer breeders ,except for Foxfire, who has a FB page. Of course, I didn't go through the entire list. Sharjet and Irongate are more by reputation, shows , and events. We have already been told by both breeders that their next pup is ours. I clicked with both breeders, talked for hrs and know the breeding practices of both.
They both know this will be our third and we have had two high drive Dobes before. I have been speaking with breeders for the past two years. We have been on a waiting list with a newer breeder ( who co-breeds) with Sharjet for 18 months and 1st on her waist list too. But her last three breedings have failed.
Maybe both Sharon and Eve took pity on us for already waiting so long. We feel very blessed to know if either have a black male he's ours. Of course, we would never have two pups at the same time. So now the decision. Maybe it will be made for us if only one has a black male.One will be breeding before the other. Irongate did send me a picture of the bitch she will be breeding. She is gorgeous ,but she hasn't decided on the stud yet.
I know people would love a pup from either and so will
we. Like most Dobe owners they're our babies. Sharjet has strong Foxfire lines in almost every dog. Foxfire focuses on showing. But her dogs owned by others have excelled at other venues as well. Irongate has all around Dobes too,but has the number one Dobe in the country in agility. We aren't planning in titling in a sport or showing. But,we always do CGC , after AKC puppy classes and work with individual trainers too for obedience. We would do some sport to give him an outlet just for fun. I had hoped someone might have seen their Dobes at shows. One is 15hrs away and requires two vists after the pups are 6 weeks. People fly or drive from much further, so she won't change her mind,especially after 60+yrs. The other is 22 hrs away. The distance is fine,we always planned on going wherever we needed to for a pup. It looks as if we will have to make the decision on our own . Or as I said, maybe only one will have a black male. What a problem to have! lol
Thank you for your response. It is appreciated.