Frenchies #1 in popularity. Dobes #15...

I have show friends that breed beautiful pugs and frenchies and they don't struggle breathing or are loud when it is hot and they are panting.
I have a show friend who breeds Frenchies and I've never heard them struggle to breathe either. Like you said, I'm sure the nare size does have a lot to do with it too.
 
I have show friends that breed beautiful pugs and frenchies and they don't struggle breathing or are loud when it is hot and they are panting. I know the French Bulldog standard has a requirement for their nares to be broad. I think its a BYB issue for sure.
I know no one that owns one. I have only seen them at shows and it was just as I described.....a struggle to breathe.
For a long time the dogs that won were the ones with the shortest, most smashed in face possible. That's just WRONG!
 
I was at an attorney's office a few years back, and he had what he called a Frenchi....I have not seen them as large as this thing; it was almost the size of a bulldog, but had a cuter face. That thing growled at me the entire time I was there....it would sniff my shoes, then stare up at me growling. The guy said "He is usually friendly to eveyone. I am not sure if it was because he could smell my dogs on me, but I was nervous with this thing growling at me....AND, they guy didn't put the dog away! I remember 10 or 15 years ago meeting some frenchie's and they were small; the size of a boston terrier.
 
Slightly OT but as OP I claim its ok:
Anyone hear of a "French Mastiff"?
@Oh Little Oji this is up your alley..."declining popularity"...

First time I met a pair of sisters in a dogpark I confess I was wary...but they are the sweetest once you earn your way into "the circle of trust"


Reading the description I see AKC notes they were also known as "the butchers dog"...

Is this the same "butchers dog" sometimes referred to in the Doberman breed origin explanations? I thought that was more typically applied to Rottweilers...

Interesting!
 
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Slightly OT but as OP I claim its ok:
Anyone hear of a "French Mastiff"?
@Oh Little Oji this is up your alley...

First time I met a pair of sisters in a dogpark I confess I was wary...but they are the sweetest once you earn your way into "the circle of trust"


Reading the description I see AKC notes they were also known as "the butchers dog"...

Is this the same "butchers dog" sometimes referred to in the Doberman breed origin explanations? I thought that was more typically applied to Rottweilers...

Interesting!
Here is an even "cooler" name "Bro-Holmer"
And not so smooshy face...

 
Sooo.....I looked up the frenchie just to see. Still a hard NO for me. Way too many health problems to even be a consideration for me.
I came across this site and 31 health problems was enough to be a hard NO for me. Screenshot_20260328_205727_Chrome.webp
 

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