Yes but it seems to be an increase lately in the deads of euro dogs coming from show lines, but I don't know it seems they have big troubles too, nobody is exempt.Juls that is a myth. Both lines have the exact same health issues because they came from exactly the same stock in the beginning. Working lines die the same as show lines.
nobody is exempt.
Correct.One question, AR means animal rights?
That could prove a very interesting story to research,where the lines of the S.African dogs came from,what kind of time line in history,etc.I am not sure what type of dogs we breed in South Africa but they seem to be somewhere in between the two. I guess it depends on the kennels you buy from here.
I have a European Dobe.He is amazing...yes, he was a handful as a small pup, and still a handful. He is stubborn, sweet and goofy. Not the kind to back down at anything. You have to be the boss..he is big at the same time..110 lbs.You have hit the nail on the head...Americans love to have a Labrador in a Doberman suit...
If the dog is too active or barking at the neighbors dog...neuter him..that will calm him down..
no disrespect to anyone but,majority of the people i come across on these forums cannot handle a Euro dobe.
Next to my Buster? American. But laying down its hard to tell. This is Buster.View attachment 39912 American or Euro?
She looks just like my Buster..except he is 31 inches, at last weigh in 110 lbs at 11 months, is a dark Mahogany with darker rust markings...he is muscular , not so refined as other Dobies. He will be a year old later this month. He has a easy way of moving..like a horse trotting. What a great and gorgeous animal he is.I am a fan of the Euro's which is why we did months of research on the bloodlines we wanted from "Across the Pond" and we ended up with full Russian bloodlines out of a very well established and previously un-imported to the USA line...
I did like the Ukrainian, Serbian dogs, Italian dogs and some Croatian lines as well. We ended up with a classic heavy boned, square, blocky headed 'doggy bitch' which I could not be MORE thrilled with. She has the drive of a machine, she loves to work, plays hard, couch potatoe's hard, sucks on toys to fall asleep, velcro's herself to my or my husbands thigh, is a social butterfly and has won in the show ring in Conformation and has it all...
She will never make the cut in "AKC" because of the great photos shown above of the difference between European and N.A. standards! she is russian tank at 26" tall and 89.8 lbs... at nigh unto 12 months in 4 days...
she is thick, wide, heavy and super muscular but she has meat on her bones covering the bones, so skeletal parts do not show... no ribs, no shoulder bones, and yet, she moves with grace and elegance like you see in her thumbnail photo here...
but this shot of her from the rear shows a TANK.... in motion! View attachment 598 View attachment 599 View attachment 600
He doesn't look all that bulky to me in that pic. Looks good though. Do you know his weight and height? I'm curious. I've got a similar Dobe at a similar age. Mine is lighter in weight than most that I read about here. Mine's head seems smaller than I'd like, which I'm sure contributes to his being a little bit light. I don't have a recent side pic, but I can upload this:Hey guys I have a half European bred doberman and he seems to be a lot more "bulkier" than my friends or others I see and he's only 8 months... Is that normal?


He doesn't look all that bulky to me in that pic. Looks good though. Do you know his weight and height? I'm curious. I've got a similar Dobe at a similar age. Mine is lighter in weight than most that I read about here. Mine's head seems smaller than I'd like, which I'm sure contributes to his being a little bit light. I don't have a recent side pic, but I can upload this:
Actually his head looks good-sized in this pic. He is 61.5 lbs., and I haven't measured his height recently, but is probably 25-26 in. About 8.5 months. He is an American-bred Euro-line. Don't be fooled by those big, cute eyes and the bow tie
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Oh, okay. I can see in these pics that he is pretty big! Man, what a difference in weight between our pups!View attachment 41028 View attachment 41029 View attachment 41027
Wow what a cute and beautiful Dobie you have! Mine is 8 1/2 months old, 81 pounds and 27 inches but might be more now that was a month ago (the chest measurement)
Here are some better photos he's really getting HUGE!