I think that exemplifies the first paragraph perfectly. (IMO) Not that i disagree with your point however that doesn't necessarily translate to a better dog just a better type of dog for your specific purposes, wants or needs in a Doberman.. Its pretty common knowledge that Show dogs dont hunt.. But every single breed has its show lines even utility types.. Different strokes for different folks..
.....and I make my escape 
. So my point is, most people don't even know there are different color doberman let alone american and euro. I can only hope that the people that want the "Man Eaters" research
ALL Dobermans....thoroughly. And if they do choose the "Total Pansy" American, they don't one day need a "Man Eater". As for me I'll keep my black & tan...man-eating dobe AND my fawn & rust...man-eating dobe-weimaraner . Maybe if we keep mixing Amer. & Euro we might make "Pansy-Eaters":shakinghead:
Very well said!!!!!
I've not heard anything about Euro Dobes not living as long due to size, that would be from genetics or lack of health testing. Any Doberman that is within the standards should have no issues from size. The Euro standard says the size is only 3/4 inch taller and 0.77 inches taller in females than the American standard. There is no American standard for weight but in general the average for males is only about 10 lbs lighter and for females only about 3lbs lighter than the European standard. The reason they appear so much larger is due mainly in part to larger bone structure in Euros.I've been reading quite a bit about the differences in physical appearance, but is the health aspect set in stone somewhere? Do the euro dogs not live as long because they could have more health risks from being bigger? I would also like to go for light jogs with a doberman, would the bigger euro be able to do 3 miles at a 10 min. mile pace?
This is quite an interesting thread, you'd think people were discussing 2 different species.
Do you know where I can find the changes in the standard? All i could find about the change is c/d but I haven't heard anything about other changes, like the lenght you mentioned, which is weird because I think they breed really square dogs even some dogs look exagerated imo. If the standard changes a lot may be the american and euro lines are going to be more separated and really compete with diferent standards and almost like two separated breeds.
I know about the price, that's the problem, the bitch they offered does not come from a known kennel and they say it was "nice", not like a very good quality dog. Plus Mexico is not known for breed dogs of excelent quality. And I have asked to other well known and theorically good breeders here and the price is about 400 dls less, and in Europe and the prices are about the same (of course plus shipping)from very well known breeders too. I think they just wanted to take advantage.
Could you explain what depth of jaw is? Deep in what direction?
Thickness vertically. Should appear powerful and strong enough to perform a bite with a deep and powerful grip. Too weak (lack of depth) of an under-jaw affects the bite. This is just all that I've gathered.
Well for what I've seen and based on talking with some people and a couple of euros I've been able to see in person, the diference is what you said. Working dogs seems to be tall and less heavy, with less deep chest, and maybe the group is more rounded. Well I think they are about the size of average american line show dogs, but comparatively less heavy than euros and of course with the diferences in conformation.
