Whoa~! Rein 'em in here and show your horses! 2024

Racing was my life for the better part of 20 years. Secretariat was definitely one of the best Thoughbreds to ever set foot on the track. But like you stated, horses for courses, or in other words the best German Shorthair Pointer can't be compared with the best Doberman. And what is even the best Doberman? That's why comparisons are so hard. But for sure in my mind S is one that always comes to mind if someone asks"best horse ever". Little known fact if you haven't looked at history - they did a test breeding with him after he retired from racing using an appaloosa mare, so his very first foal was an appaloosa, not a thoroughbred. And also, unlike many great racehorses he did not ever come close to reproducing himself in talent. In the race world he was called a freak - in a good way, but also saying he was one of a kind and none of his offspring could come close to his talent.
 
I always love an underdog and with Louisiana roots, you might like this story. He's not likely to win, but you can't win if you don't enter. Plus he's gorgeous!

The best storyline​

Lonnie Briley was never supposed to be here. The folksy 72-year-old Louisianan has been training horses since 1991 and has had success, but mostly with cheap horses running for small prizes in racing’s backwaters. Until now.

His horse, Coal Battle, may lack the regal breeding of his foes in this race, but that only makes what he’s achieved that much more impressive: an improbable four-race win streak over the fall and winter, from a small stakes at lowly Delta Downs to a triumph in the Grade 2 Rebel Stakes at venerable Oaklawn Park and a berth in the Kentucky Derby. It’s made him — by far — the most accomplished horse Briley has ever conditioned.

Almost 15% of all of the purse money Briley’s horses have ever won, in fact, is from Coal Battle over the past few months. Before this, Briley had never come remotely close to the Kentucky Derby, and just by getting here he’s defied the odds. Coal Battle’s odds are long in this race (his speed figures are on the light side), but even his rival trainers will probably be smiling if he can pull this one off.



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they did a test breeding with him after he retired from racing using an appaloosa mare, so his very first foal was an appaloosa, not a thoroughbred.
Well isn't that interesting! Especially to an 'Appaloosa woman' who's hot for spots! LOL Love it! But isn't he part Thoroughbred anyway because Secretariat was Thoroughbred?
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And only lived to 19. 😕
 
Secretariat was an incredible horse! Also a good movie from 2010.

He's in the blue and white check



and most spectacularly for the Triple Crown win!


Man O War (Big Red) arguably one of the best. There are video's out there but he was in the 1920's so lol



I always love an underdog and with Louisiana roots, you might like this story. He's not likely to win, but you can't win if you don't enter. Plus he's gorgeous!

The best storyline​

Lonnie Briley was never supposed to be here. The folksy 72-year-old Louisianan has been training horses since 1991 and has had success, but mostly with cheap horses running for small prizes in racing’s backwaters. Until now.

His horse, Coal Battle, may lack the regal breeding of his foes in this race, but that only makes what he’s achieved that much more impressive: an improbable four-race win streak over the fall and winter, from a small stakes at lowly Delta Downs to a triumph in the Grade 2 Rebel Stakes at venerable Oaklawn Park and a berth in the Kentucky Derby. It’s made him — by far — the most accomplished horse Briley has ever conditioned.

Almost 15% of all of the purse money Briley’s horses have ever won, in fact, is from Coal Battle over the past few months. Before this, Briley had never come remotely close to the Kentucky Derby, and just by getting here he’s defied the odds. Coal Battle’s odds are long in this race (his speed figures are on the light side), but even his rival trainers will probably be smiling if he can pull this one off.



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We won BIG on a trifecta bet during the 2019 race when Maximum Security was disqualified and Country House (the 65-1 long shot) then became the winner; so we love a long shot :thumbsup:

 
@Ddski5

Honorable mention because there is a 2003 movie about him that I quite enjoy: Seabsicuit had a fun story. He never won the triple crown (nor ran any of the races, I believe) but he did best War Admiral who won the triple crown in 1937.

Yes!!!
What a great show!
 
But isn't he part Thoroughbred anyway because Secretariat was Thoroughbred?

Yes, he's half Tb, but the ApHA allows them to be registered as an Appaloosa if they are bred to a non-app of an approved breed. This is benefits of a breed having "open books" with specific other breeds and actually can improve the breed. TB's are a closed book (like Dobermans) so this cross would never be allowed to be registered as a thoroughbred and they don't offer a half-TB registry, again, comparing to dog breeds - it's all or nothing.
More info if you read on the ApHA website.

Bloodline Requirements​

Pedigreed Appaloosas must have at least one ApHC-registered parent (sire or dam) classified as Regular (#). The other parent may be registered with the ApHC, or an ApHC-Approved Breed Association: American Quarter Horse Association (AQHA), Jockey Club (Thoroughbred), or Arabian Horse Association (AHA or WAHO).
ApHC-Approved Breeds must be listed with the ApHC; some restrictions apply.
 
Thanks for the extra info @LifeofRubie - I was hoping you'd see this thread!

One of my dear friends from back in my racing days gave me these pictures - War Admiral & Sea Biscuit. Sorry, just a snapshot I took a minute ago and has window reflections.

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Pedigreed Appaloosas must have at least one ApHC-registered parent (sire or dam) classified as Regular (#). The other parent may be registered with the ApHC, or an ApHC-Approved Breed Association: American Quarter Horse Association (AQHA), Jockey Club (Thoroughbred), or Arabian Horse Association (AHA or WAHO).
Same pretty much goes with Paints. Zeus was a registered Paint but he had a ton of AQHA lines and some race lines.
 
Well, I have a little bit of a scare last couple of days with my horse, Sandy. She's actually my husband's horse. He picked her out and it was his horse. But, little by little she became more my horse as I am the main caregiver for all three of them. 🥰

Sandy has heaves, in human world it is comparable to CPOD. She's had it for quite a few years now and is on steroids usually throughout the summer. It's something that will only get worse and as it gets harder to breathe, it's harder to eat.

For the last few weeks I've noticed that she is not finishing her grain which is usually what we call their "candy." They love it! It's like a treat. So when they stop eating that, there's a problem. I noticed that she had lost weight and that really frightened me. I have a girlfriend who lost a horse years ago with the same thing. And, in the end, that's what made her decision to put him down. He was so thin and not eating enough no matter what she did or what she gave him. She knew that it was time.

So when I let the horses all out to the pasture the other day, I look out and see Sandy just standing by the run-in out in the pasture. That was unusual. They love going out in the pasture and eating grass. There'd be no way that any of them will be just standing around unless they been out there for 3 days! LOL

I went out to look at her and she was breathing hard. The medicine that I had given her for the last 4 weeks was gone and I was actually waiting on an order for another bottle to come in. But actually that medicine should have made her better. It's something that you give loaded up the first week. And then progressively give it in lesser amounts each week until you taper off to nothing. As each year goes by, it's gotten to the point where she can be on this steroid the whole summer. Not just for an interim time. When winter brings in the cooler months she does a little bit better. She still breathing harder than everybody else and damage to the lungs gets worse and worse but winter she's usually not on any medication.

So that morning when she actually stopped eating I was in a panic! She had eaten everything overnight in her stall so that was good. But for her to not eat in the morning was very unusual. I thought maybe I should call the vet and just get an evaluation. I wasn't ready for anything drastic but I thought maybe he should come out.

I called him up and surprised myself that I lost it completely on the phone as soon as I started talking. 😭 He was so kind. He said, What's wrong? Something happened. What's wrong?!

I told him it was Sandy and that she wasn't eating. I told him I'm not ready to put her down but I would like you to come out and evaluate her. He said he would be out in an hour.

I tried to walk her back to the Corral and she went for a little bit and then she stopped and wouldn't budge. So I left her out in the pasture figuring we would just drive out there. A little while later I was going to go back out there and bring some more hay for her. I brought some earlier when she first stopped eating. I thought maybe if I brought her hay she wouldn't have to move she could just stand there and eat that and it would be more than the little bit of grass that she would have to keep moving to get.

So I was in the barn ready to get on my golf cart when I heard a soft knicker and recognized it as her! I looked up and she was right in the Corral by the fence! So I quickly threw her some hay and closed the gate so she couldn't go back out to the pasture.

When my vet got here we went into the Corral and he listened to her heart and lungs. He said, her lungs are very congested and her heart is beating 80 times a minute. Normal is about 40. So, he said, she is working hard just to breathe. He figured just by a visual that she lost about a hundred pounds. But he said she can gain that back in a month. We just have to get her comfortable enough to start eating again. So he gave her a shot of an antibiotic and also a shot of banamine which is a pain reliever. He said she should feel better shortly and start eating. And she did. Still breathing bad but at least she was eating.

Losing the weight is the thing that makes me lose my mind. Once an animal stops eating you know it's usually time. 😔

Through tears I asked him when do you think I will know it's 'time.' He said, it's not now. Okay, good. We'll go with that. He gave me a tube of paste banamine that I can give her for the next couple of days for pain and inflammation.

So far she's been eating. Trying to give her more grain to help put weight back on but she doesn't always eat it. I leave a bucket of it in her stall sometime overnight just in the hopes that she will finish it though the night.

I was a basket case that day thinking it was 'my turn.' I've always said, every friend I know that has horses has lost one or more. It seemed like I was the only one that still had my three. Sandy is 25 years old. And that's not really that old for a horse. They can live into their 30s. I think with her disease it may take her sooner. I've always thought if it was one of them, it would be her first. We all need to breathe! And it's a horrible thing to watch when they can't. But I still won't be ready when the time comes. 😪

Monday
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In better days....❤️
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I knew of a horse in Arkansas that had heaves. It's awful. He wasn't mine, but I knew his owner. He lived a long time, but like your girl, had some hard days and summer was always hard on him - hot, humid & muggy.
Hopefully this is just a tough spell due to the weather and smoke. It's kind of like people with bad asthma - they are basically ok until conditions make it extra hard to breathe, then not enough oxygen makes other things hard.

Thinking of you & Sandy.
 
Wow…what a beautiful colored horse. She’s a big girl too!

Hmmm….COPD- good comparison. Not much you can due but give meds, keep up their activity tolerance and baby them when their condition exacerbates.

I really get upset about this difficult and sad part of life.
 
How scary indeed and I'm glad the vet was able to get her some relief. Do you think the smoke might have anything to do with it? I thought about her the other day when you showed the smoke in your area and knowing she has the issue.
 
Well, what irritates her? It's hard to say. She is usually at her worst when it's hot and muggy. I think she has trouble with the humidity more than anything. I'm sure the smoke didn't help and we did have a few days where it was pretty bad.

Usually come spring she's starting to breathe heavier. I always try and determine the cause but it's really hard. We used to think it was the blooming trees in the spring. Now this spring I was hopeful because she didn't start off getting bad right away. It wasn't really until we got that really hot and muggy weather that she suddenly started really huffing. And that's when I got the steroids from the vet.

I've always been told that it's just will get worse every year. And every time she has a bad episode, the lungs get damaged. And it does seem that she's kind of at that point where not a lot helps her.

You know, Albuterol was discontinued a couple of years ago. And that was one thing that she was on every day year-round. She loved it too! She took it like a champ! I guess it tastes good LOL but then I heard that they had discontinued it which I thought was so strange! Because even people take that I thought. But the vet said they couldn't get it anymore. I was like what the hell are we supposed to do then?? But it seemed like she was no worse for wear for not taking it so I wonder if it was doing any good. 🤷‍♀️

So now when she gets bad which is always in the summer, she has to take the steroids. And the bad thing about that is prolonged use of that sometimes makes them founder. So I've been worried about that too. In fact, years ago I didn't want to start the steroids because of that. But talking with my farrier one day and he said, look at it this way... she can't breathe. So give her something to help her breathe. If she founders, then maybe you know it's time. 😔 I thought that made good sense. So I started the steroids.

In the beginning it really did help. I remember when my daughter was in town and we were riding the other two horses and Sandy was in the pasture chasing after us as we rode around the fence, trying to keep up with us and wanting to be with us. I said, look at her! I couldn't get over how good she looked. We didn't do that very long though cuz I didn't want to push it, even though she look like she was doing great. But now it seems like I go through the whole regiment of the steroid and she's still bad.

She's eating better since the vet was here and gave her those shots but she still breathing hard. The other vet that ordered the steroids just had it come in today but I was gone all day and couldn't pick it up. So I'm going in there tomorrow. I still think she looks bad. I still think she looks too thin. And that really scares me. It's always great to have an animal that eats well. Cuz you can always control their weight. But you can't make an animal eat if they don't want to. Or, like her, she can't!

One of the things that my vet talked about when he was here was closing in her stall with bisqueen and putting in an air conditioner! 😳 He told me that a long time ago and I kind of laughed but he said that there are some people that do it. Just to get them through the bad times like now. I just can't imagine doing that. It's like wrapping her in plastic! It would be a big ordeal to get that done. I suppose it would probably help though. It's like people with allergies that do better in the air conditioning.


She’s a big girl too!
She's actually not! She's the smallest one and quite petite actually.
 
So yesterday I went to the vet's office in town to pick up Sandy's Prednisoline.


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Is Googling everything now AI? 🤦‍♀️

Anyway, after today I will be starting her on that liquid again. It starts with a higher loading dose and then progressively goes down each week. She may have to be on the final dose the rest of the summer.

When the first vet came out and gave her those two shots, one of them was Dex which is a steroid. I knew the one shot was a painkiller. I couldn't remember what the other shot was . I thought it was an antibiotic but it was Dex. And then he gave me a paste form of Dex to give to her everyday for a few days. I can't start the Prednisoline until that is gone and that will be today.

I thought she actually looked thinner yesterday but I couldn't be sure. I finally remember that I have a weight tape that you put around the horse and it gives you an approximate weight. She was 1,015 lb. When I was at the other vet's office yesterday she tried to look up to see what she had weighed at any other given time but she wasn't showing any weight recorded in her records. I'm going to try calling the other vet to see if he had a weight on her from years ago. Just for an idea of how we're standing here. But I'm glad I measured her yesterday because it would give me something a little more accurate than just a visual.

She has been eating better since those shots. Well, I can't say it's better. It's just the fact that she is eating. She's still not finishing her grain which is very unusual. But at night I leave it in the stall and hope that she finishes thoughout the night and doesn't dump it out by knocking it over.

I also picked up a bag of senior feed for her. We've been feeding the same grain to all of them for years but the vet suggested the senior feed which would have more in it for an older horse. Yesterday when I came home I took some out to her and she ate it. But when I brought her in at night she turned her nose up at it and just started eating the hay. I left it in overnight and I'm hoping she ate it.

I also went down the road to my friend's house and got a couple of bales of straw from her husband. He's the guy I get my hay from and he has plenty of straw also. I shoveled out most of the bedding from her stall and bedded it down with the straw instead. I probably should have done that a long time ago. I've always gotten bedding that was supposedly less dusty but it still is. The straw is messier to clean in my opinion, but it won't be as dusty for her.
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Going out to the barn now to see how everything's going. The heat and humidity is back. Yesterday was pretty icky. I don't think the next few days are going to be much different. 😕 This is the worse weather for her.
 

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