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Lol she gets SUPER defensive so she’ll probably Get all butthurt
No really he IS purebred - or is he?
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Lol she gets SUPER defensive so she’ll probably Get all butthurt
Not only doesn't it look like a Doberman, it's conformation is poor to say the least! This is one of those breeders that you wish could be stopped from ever breeding any dog again!
That doesn’t even remotely look like a Doberman or even a German Pinscher. It does look a bit like a Pharoh Hound but not nearly as elegant as a Pharoh.
What the heck is wrong with these people. Obviously they think the average public is stupid and even the Doberman people too. If I went and saw this dog being touted as a Doberman I would have to tell that breeder it is a bad knockoff of the breed. Just wow!!
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What makes me so annoyed is that she got it DNA tested to “prove it was a Doberman”
And so now people who are ignorant are going to believe her even though anyone who has a bit of knowledge will know that DNA tests aren’t perfect and can’t even detect breeds after like 6 or 7 generations which isn’t a lot.
I’d also like to see the parents results too because all of it is seriously suspicious.
I wouldn’t even buy that dog if he were standard colour because of how bad he looks let alone get him for BREEDING.
All of it is just like yikes.
Are you sure she actually swabbed that dog and not another (real) Doberman. I wouldn’t trust her not to swab another dog and send it in as her dog.
This is just too strange.
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I did think about that, but the coat colour genetics are correct for that dog.
The test show e/e and dobermans aren’t genetically e/e so even if she had used another dog they’d show up as E/E and not e/e
Still I think there is something fishy about this. Just plain weird to me.
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I agree!
I’m thinking there was a mix further down the generations that isn’t showing up on the test.
It’s just too suspicious. Especially being an imported dog.
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Right? They deserve that, like seriously not only are you breeding off standard but your dogs aren’t even healthy nor do they have good conformation.
I know she just joined a club to “prove her dogs can work” but we’ll see how that goes
Oh yes, I’ve seen all those. It’s pathetic, how can you say you love a breed when you breed like THAT.
Also can anyone read that pedigree?
I know more working lines then show and so not super educated in a lot of line varieties.
Recognize any?
Is that an adult dog? Looks so diminutive!
Even if it was a Doberman (which it's not) who would want that or especially to breed for a "Doberman" that looks like that? Dobermans were intended to be bodyguards (and originally intended to be black BTW).
Don't take this literally, but it looks like I could kick right through that poor dog in the pictures.
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I think he’s a few months, maybe 6?
I’ll be curious as to how he looks as he ages.
Not a good looking dog
It would seem to me if you have to get a DNA test done to PROVE it’s a Doberman, I don’t think you will have the interest of people wanting to purchase your dogs.
Most that want to purchase a dobe know exactly how regal and majestic they look and that is their initial drive to purchase one and how intelligent they are. Most would not consider buying one if the breeder is proving her dogs are Dobermans. This breed is a total stand alone in their looks, intelligence and athleticism, of that there is no question!
Most that want to purchase a dobe know exactly how regal and majestic they look and that is their initial drive to purchase one and how intelligent they are. Most would not consider buying one if the breeder is proving her dogs are Dobermans. This breed is a total stand alone in their looks, intelligence and athleticism, of that there is no question!
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But there’s always those people who are naive enough to fall for this sort of thing.
Even her sickly looking puppies get bought because people think “oh a cheap puppy!” And buy on impulse.
And then you know she has loyal followers who will fight her for until the end. So more and more naive people will think this is normal and praise her for the unique dogs she makes.
Naïveté and loyalty are short lived once they realize their wallets are not full enough to care for a sickly or genetically infirmed puppy or adult dobe.
We are evidence that there is a standard look to a dobe and become critical of those breeders and dogs that fall short of what one defines as a dobe simply by our opinions shared on this thread.
I have been cursed with not having a filter between my brain and my mouth and I fear I would not hesitate to point out the faults of what this breeder is producing. The haircoat looks coarse and like that of a dry coated lab. The color is another thing even though they are e/e.
The deep chest is non existent, legs are long, the head is not wedge shaped, it is slight in frame. If I saw this dog on the street I would not recognize any Doberman similarities and would most likely voice that sentiment if they told me it was a Doberman.
We are evidence that there is a standard look to a dobe and become critical of those breeders and dogs that fall short of what one defines as a dobe simply by our opinions shared on this thread.
I have been cursed with not having a filter between my brain and my mouth and I fear I would not hesitate to point out the faults of what this breeder is producing. The haircoat looks coarse and like that of a dry coated lab. The color is another thing even though they are e/e.
The deep chest is non existent, legs are long, the head is not wedge shaped, it is slight in frame. If I saw this dog on the street I would not recognize any Doberman similarities and would most likely voice that sentiment if they told me it was a Doberman.
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Found some more interesting things.
This is the Dam of the litter:
roxy of lord harrel
Anyone else think she looks like a German Pinscher?
This is the Dam of the litter:
roxy of lord harrel
Anyone else think she looks like a German Pinscher?
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and his full PD with pictures.
D-Butch of sir Meinschiff
D-Butch of sir Meinschiff
LifeofRubie
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This is one of the most effed up things I've ever read on a dog website:
We breed for conformation, temperament, and health. Our dogs are family pets first and for most and we strive to produce loving pets for loving family's in a variety of colors.
I am one of the only breeders who can produce Registered Health tested Dobermans in ALL 9 Colors.
Black/rust, solid black or Melanistic black, Blue/rust, Melanistic blue or solid blue, cream/white, fawn/rust, red/rust, solid fawn or Melanistic Fawn and solid red or Melanistic Red.
All our Dobermans are health tested Through the Doberman Diversity Project who test through Embark.
All our dogs are tested to be 100% dobermans.
We breed for conformation, temperament, and health. Our dogs are family pets first and for most and we strive to produce loving pets for loving family's in a variety of colors.
I am one of the only breeders who can produce Registered Health tested Dobermans in ALL 9 Colors.
Black/rust, solid black or Melanistic black, Blue/rust, Melanistic blue or solid blue, cream/white, fawn/rust, red/rust, solid fawn or Melanistic Fawn and solid red or Melanistic Red.
All our Dobermans are health tested Through the Doberman Diversity Project who test through Embark.
All our dogs are tested to be 100% dobermans.
A piss poor example of a German Pinscher!
This is just insanely wrong. Below is a picture of German Pinschers, registered real ones.
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