No really he IS purebred - or is he?

[Kaiser2016]

Ugh.

 

[Panama]

If it's e/e, that means both parents carry it.

 

[Panama]

Dilute red? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

 

[Curing]

If it's e/e, that means both parents carry it.

Yes definitely. I don’t know the parents genetics so its hard to say if they actually did or not and she didn’t post anything about them either. Just what the puppies results are.

But e isn’t known in the breed. I think they’re an E/E breed.

 

[Curing]

Their conformation hurts to look at and the puppies look like they have bloated wormy bellies.

I know right?
Every time I see one of their dogs I cringe.

 

[Panama]

And this supposed Red Dilute registered as a Fawn/Rust came from a Black/Rust & Red/Rust breeding. BS... the dog isn't even fawn (it's orange) and doesn't have rust markings, has white on the feet.

Those pups are all roach backed, wormy and a few look like they have demodex mange. And she seems to constantly have puppies all year long.

 

[Ddski5]

This does not look like a Doberman.
-No deep barrel chest.
-Even for a NA, the snout it too long.
-Not enough musculature
-Dobermans musculature resembles a horse.

 

[Panama]

Pharaoh Hound looking (or coyote).

 

[Panama]

 

[Kaiser2016]

And the poor mom, even the look on her face. This is so sad.

 

[Panama]

And the poor mom, even the look on her face. This is so sad.

Hot mess

 

[Ddski5]

The shit people will do....

Sad.

 

[Curing]

And this supposed Red Dilute registered as a Fawn/Rust came from a Black/Rust & Red/Rust breeding. BS... the dog isn't even fawn (it's orange) and doesn't have rust markings, has white on the feet.

Those pups are all roach backed, wormy and a few look like they have demodex mange. And she seems to constantly have puppies all year long.

If you read in other posts she’s calling it “clear red”

It would be one thing if it was a melanistic red. But it’s not. It’s a recessive red e/e which isn’t present in the breed.
These are the embark results for his genetics:

 

[Curing]

He’s not even b/b which would make him Red/Liver/Brown
Nor is he d/d
Which would make him dilute/blue

 

[Lizbeli]

Not even sure where to start on this breeder. Dogs don’t look like dobermans. And some don’t look healthy to begin with. I never heard of red and blue mel’s. Can’t help on the genetic question but couldn't see this and not post...

 

[Curing]

Not even sure where to start on this breeder. Dogs don’t look like dobermans. And some don’t look healthy to begin with. I never heard of red and blue mel’s. Can’t help on the genetic question but couldn't see this and not post...

I know what you mean.
It’s one of those “Wtf” things that you just shake your head at.

 

[GennyB]

It’s one of those “Wtf” things that you just shake your head at.

Or

 

[Panama]

They'll probably block me........

"Looks more like a light chestnut like a Pharaoh Hound (along with white toes) or a light orange of the Golden. Kind of strange all of a sudden "e/e" shows up in the breed, from an import."

 

[Max Hawk]

Does not look purebred to me at all...none seem to have typical Doberman markings..so whatever...lol

 

[Max Hawk]

I’m hovering on falsified papers.
Just very suspicious that a new colour would pop up so suddenly. Especially one that can’t really hide like that.

I don't think they are purebred..IMHO.