Need some advice on training

chameleongirl

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Hi all. I hope I dont bore you with a long post but it may end up as that...

Basically my husband bought a doberman last year. He is 1 year and 2 months old... My husband said he used to train dogs and of course I said ok if that is what you are going to do then no problem geting a new dog. Well he hasnt done any training except walking him around the yard on the leash about 10 times since we GOT HIM. He says he is so well behaved on the leash but inside the house he is NUTS.

The energy that Panzer has is causing a lot of disruption in our home... I am told I am too hard on him but then my husband just sits back and lets him do whatever he wants 97% of the time. Since we got Panzer, my husband sleeps in the living room on the couch with him... still does. I cannot be disrupted during sleep due to my anxiety/panic attacks... so each night i take the pug and go to the bedroom while i hear my husband saying "go to sleep" or "Lay down" at night because Panzer wont go to sleep.

Panzer still doesnt know sit OR down. I can say he does not know it because when I say "sit" he will go to the down position... sometimes he gets it right but its like he will go right to "down" from a very lazy sit because he knows its the 2nd thing to do after sit. I try and mix it up and say down first and he may sit... or say sit from when he is lying down and he wont do it. Sometimes I try and push his butt down gently as I say "sit" so he knows what I want him to do.

Panzer likes to bite my pug. A lot. I cannot leave them two in the same room (say I want to go to the bathroom) without him biting at her and then in turn she will chase/growl/bite/snarl at him. She used to be more tolerant but lately will attack Panzer even if he smacks a paw down close to the bone she is chewing on. I also know there was some horseplay when I see the back of my pug's neck matted down with drool from panzer's mouth.

I have a cat as well. she is 13. Kind of a strange story as to why I have the cat but it was my grandparents... since they died (one in 07 and one in 2010), my husband and I bought the house April 2012. So the cat has been here the whole time- my dad would come over twice a day to feed her and let her out when no one was living here. Since my other relatives did not live up to their word in taking the cat, I have her... Panzer LOVES the cat. thing is he will block her from going upstairs or down to the basement (where her food/litter pan is)... he will step on her by getting too close... he also has jumped on her twice outside where they both went down. Thankfully she wasnt hurt either time but really freaked out. The cat will come see him if he is sleeping or laying down but once he moves she runs off. My husband hates the cat (just doesnt like them) and couldnt care less if he bit her or jumped on her. I care though. I dont let Panzer stare at the cat (he is fixated on her)... I also dont like letting her out when he is out because he will not let her come into the fenced yard to sit on the porch. She sits in our neighbors yards just ouside the fence we have and will wait for me to walk her in. Panzer still tries keeping her out though and then if I say NO or block the cat he will turn to me and jump up and down and bark at me. So please... how can i keep him apart from the cat? He will sniff out the spots she was sitting in after she has walked away... like I said she is old and I worry for her.

Panzer also likes to dig. We have an area in the corner of the yard where a tree stump is at where he CAN dig. He still digs multiple holes in the rest of the yard. Any tips for this?

I dont like dogs in the kitchen... Panzer drives me nuts putting his chin on tables and counter tops (still does it in the living room to my coffee table and I cannot stand it). How do i teach him that things on counters/tables/end tables are not for him? For now I made a cardboard gate with a cat door cut out of it... Panzer will charge through the cardboard if he feels like it but not ALL of the time. I will take him to the cardboard gate (its so ugly lol) and say NO and touch the gate a few times in a row then let him go. A week ago someone rang the doorbell and the dogs went running. panzer flew through my ghetto gate and I couldnt get him out of the kitchen and from the doorway. I held his collar as I opened the door and he pulled and twisted my arm. The Jehovah's Witness promptly left because I was struggling with the dogs (my pug girl is tiny and easy to handle compared to Panzer)... Seriously though I cannot have him charging for the door when the doorbell rings... I dont care if its my parents or a stranger- I just dont want him doing that. I have tried getting him to sit and stay (then open the door with him still sitting/staying) but he is too excited. he will push me out of the way to go out if I tell him- time to go to the bathroom or time to go outside.

Another thing I would like to correct is- you cannot put a jacket or coat (or shoes) on from our front room closet without being jumped on. He thinks you are getting ready to go out and play with him. My husband "trained" him i guess because he always wore an old jacket out with him to play and when he sees him open the closet he barges into it then starts to jump up on him. I told my husband not to just let him out when he is excited but he will just let him out because hes too much to handle. <-- not fixing the problem at all. I told him all it does it enforce the behavior. Then it leads to an argument. So I want to know how to be able to put on shoes/jacket without being "attacked"... i cannot even open the closet without panzer going nuts to get the vacuum out of it.

My husband "wrestles" with the dog... like everyday... I dont like horseplay in the house because normally it turns into panzer running around hitting stuff and jumping on and off the couch multiple times. He also lets Panzer jump on him and he walks with panzer up on 2 legs. I dont like him play fighting or wrestling because Panzer already has a had enough time distinguishing playing with me than when playing with my husband.

Also Panzer will not come inside when told... he will bark and jump around instead like he is mad at me. When the neighbor's kids are out, I take panzer in when he starts barking at them. he has met them a few times now so the kids are not total strangers. Usually their father walks them over if i am out washing my car or something to chit chat... panzer licks their hands through the fence.

Is there any way to make it less messy when Panzer eats? its either food in the water bowl or water in the food bowl. I must step in water spots around the house about 15 times a day (he walks when he eats/drinks too). its gross. I also find food in strange spots like on the toilet, on my cricket bin which is on a shelf...etc. Definitely not from my pug. lol

How can I get Panzer to jump on the couch and lay on it-- not jump on and off 10x... or walk across it all? The couch is weakened because Panzer will not just lay down but SLIDE down the upper part of the backrest of the couch when he lays down. he does it to my one wall constantly and I hate it because he has a collar that scratches it. I also just painted a million stencils on the wall and want it to last at least a year before I do it again. We also have a recliner that is destroyed... well almost. Everything creaks and is pulling apart... panzer will get next to it and "pull" on it to bring himself closer (its my husband's spot)... then if he drops a bone, panzer will get between the recliner and couch and you can see the whole side of the recliner moving. the recliner does not sit square on the floor, it feels like the while bottom is round- that is how weak the chair is. He also will stand up on it while my husband is in it and I am waiting for the whole chair to collapse and eventually take out my glass end table/lamps with it. How can I get him to NOT destroy this chair- we dont have extra money for new furniture...

Evenings around here suck. They just plain suck. You know when its after dinner and you want to watch tv or a movie? I cannot remember a time watching an entire tv show without interruption. Panzer will sit and stare then whine/groan. Sometimes he will just look me in my face like 6 inches away and If I say "no" or "go lay down" he just stands there and stares... even if i try to move him to get him to lay down he pushes back.

Another thing is dog liners- Panzer doesnt use them but he will mess with my pug's liners. my pug still has liners in the house (she doesnt go out too much but its nicer now out there)... panzer will go tear up her liners even if they had been used. I cannot tell you how many times he has shoved a liner against a wall to leave a poop smear for me. So not cool.

My husband doesnt really play with him much. I have taken that responsibility now... i can only play with his 2 ball toys because if you grab the snake toy or rope toy, you will get attacked (not in a bad way but its way too rough). Another thing I can thank my husband for doing-- play rough with him with these toys so that if someone touches the wrong one, Panzer thinks its ON and goes crazy.

I have showed my husband online articles on dominant/aggressive behavior and he just plays it off saying Panzer is a puppy. I dont know what to do. its like I have no support. I am tired of arguing over the dog. That is ALL we argue over (even though we havent had income in over a year and my husband still cannot find fulltime work)... funny we argue over the dog more than income (and things are TIGHT-- just look at my cardboard ghetto dog gate in the kitchen).

I gave it about a year until I started to really get on my husband for not training... i would have rather gotten rid of Panzer because he does not fit our lifestyle. My husband now tells people he didnt think this through when he got him... etc. Too late now. My husband is about to start work here and basically up til now had time to train/play with him... now i am left with panzer. I dont really like him and I am sad to say that. I have a variety of other pets and Panzer is the most problematic for me.

Am I being too demanding? I have had plenty of panic attacks/anxiety attacks due to Panzer... like when he jumped on the cat. I had a really bad one a few weeks ago too because he wasnt listening to ANYTHING for like 3 days in a row and it just built up and I had to be alone for a while... Everyday and night all day from when he is awake I feel so stressed and annoyed by things he does. I guess its why my husband says I am too hard on Panzer. Panzer does not fit *my* lifestyle... I am not as active as I was or outgoing... but my husband is and he isnt taking care of his end of the deal by training him. can anyone give me some advice or training tips please???? I am very near my end here because its been over a year of the same thing pretty much.

There is more but I am just going to go with the main things that I would like help with. Thanks for reading.
 
Oh yeah... basically when I said to my husband that he really needs to get serious with training or find a home better suited for Panzer he says- you have all those other animals and I only have one that is mine... it made me sad to hear him say that so that is why I never pushed the issue of him getting rid of him... i would feel so bad and he would resent me. I probably should have read between the lines better when he said he had to get rid of other dogs he has had in the past. grrr.
 
Dobermans need structure and a strong leader. Set routines with him and stick to them. He also needs training, find a good dog trainer in the area and take him to classes. He could use the knowledgeable training and the socialization of being in a class with other dogs. You also need to set strict ground rules with him. The jumping, barking, and disobedience are all signs that he does not respect you or see you as a leader. We like a program called Nothing In Life is Free (NILIF). Basically you take everything from him, toys, attention, chews and only give them to him when 1) you decide he should have them and 2) he has done something to earn them. Dinner time comes, you make him sit or down and wait until you have put his bowl down and released him to eat. He wants to play, then he must sit or down quietly for a short period before you go give him a toy. He is not allowed to demand and you do not reward him for demanding, no matter how obnoxious he gets. For the jumping he gets no attention at all, no speaking, no touching, no eye contact, until he is calm and has all four feet on the ground. No more furniture time either. Until he can learn to be respectful he gets no privileges, those must be earned.

Is he crate trained? He needs to learn to be quiet by himself sometimes and the crate is a great way to do that. While it isn't recommended, if done correctly it can also be used as a time out spot. If he is just pushing your last nerve and you feel you are going to give in to him or get angry, take a second to collect yourself and then calmly put him away for a few minutes. Do not do it out of anger and do not speak or make eye contact with him beyond telling him to "go to bed" or whatever command you use. This will give you both a chance to cool down and regroup and does not need to last more than a few minutes. Sometimes he'll come back out after 5 min and be right back to the same behavior, if this is the case just calmly put him right back for another few minutes. He'll get the idea. If he had a good down/stay then I would recommend that instead. He should also be required to sleep in the crate at night. This enforces the routine that night time is for sleeping.

As for the other dog and cat, Dobermans play rough. If you don't want him playing rough then you need to put a stop to it. Make him drag a light leash that you can grab to gain control. (Only when you are around since you don't want him to get hung.)

For any of this to work you must be firm and consistent, you also MUST get your husband on board with this. Everyone in the house must be on the same page. Dogs thrive on clear boundaries and consistency. If one person allows him on the couch but the other doesn't he will not understand this is a rule. Training is the major key here. Training will bring respect, pack structure, and peace.
 
Hey welcome from Missouri and glad you joined us here - Dobermans are not a dog you can leave to their own devices as they get bored very easily and they sooner or later take over if they have no respect for their people.

You need far more than anyone on this list could do to help you. You must first sit down with hubby and get you bothon the same page. Then you must find a good qualified trainer to work with to train you how to handle and live with a dominant breed or you are heading down the road to trouble. A dog that gets into trouble puts all our dogs at risk as they are already on the dangerous dog list.

Please find a good trainer and enter classes now. You need far more help than the dog. Good luck and keep us posted. If you tell us what area you are in we might know of good trainers to help. the dog needs an overhaul from the ground up and that means you guys need an overhaul in your training skills.
 
the dog needs an overhaul from the ground up and that means you guys need an overhaul in your training skills.
That's kind of my way of thinking. He should have been 'started' a long time ago. He's been left far too long 'on his own', with seemingly little structure. Dobermans are a smart breed. But left to their own defenses, (as it seems he has) they will make up their own set of 'rules'.

That's not to say that it can't be done. But an 'overhaul' is gonna be needed. ;) Structure, structure, structure....exercise, exercise, exercise and what Jess said about NILIF. That's a great start! And a finding a class will help guide you too. :D

All of this kind of behavior, is simply showing no respect and lack of exercise:

but inside the house he is NUTS.

The energy that Panzer has is causing a lot of disruption in our home

Panzer likes to bite my pug. A lot.

he will step on her by getting too close..

Panzer still tries keeping her out though and then if I say NO or block the cat he will turn to me and jump up and down and bark at me.

Panzer also likes to dig.

you cannot put a jacket or coat (or shoes) on from our front room closet without being jumped on.
In my opinion, all of these actions scream lack of respect for you by him, not setting a structure for him with rules (you wouldn't allow a child to do some of these things) and not giving him enough exercise to burn some energy. He's still a pup in many ways and just like kids, they have energy to burn.

Maybe get The Dog Whisperer, Cesar Millans books to learn how to gain respect with him. I hope others will chime in and offer more suggestions for you too. We all want to see you succeed and make Panzer a gentlemen that you can be proud of!
 
I strongly agree with what has already been posted, but just have one more thing to add. Exercise. Dobermans need a significant amount of exercise and he is not getting any. Dobies have lots of energy and if their energy levels are not depleated on a healthy way, they will act out either physically or vocally to work it off. Take him on walks. Make sure not to push the level of intensity as he is still young and you can actually injure him if you push exercise too hard and force it. I would not run him until he is at least 18 months or older due to the fact that they technically are still growing.

Get him to a trainer. Training is another good way to burn off energy. Set boundaries and rules like Jess said. Very important for an intelligent breed.

Also, I hate to say it since I don't know you but you need to have a talk with your husband. If he won't be on the same page as you with the training and won't be consistant than this is not a fair situation for any of you, Panzer included. I'm sorry you are having trouble. I sincerely hope you are able to find help. Good luck and please keep us posted!
 
Is there any way to make it less messy when Panzer eats? its either food in the water bowl or water in the food bowl. I must step in water spots around the house about 15 times a day (he walks when he eats/drinks too). its gross. I also find food in strange spots like on the toilet, on my cricket bin which is on a shelf...etc. Definitely not from my pug. lol
Buddy is a slobberer with water too! :p There's no easy solution for messy eaters except to maybe gate them off until they are done. Buddy's water bowl is in my laundry room and sometimes he can leave a slippery mess all the way out the door! :eek: Sometimes I lay down towels to catch it. Either way, I just have to clean it up and chalk it up to dog ownership.

Do you feed free? In other words, dog food is in his bowl all day? Or do you feed him and he's done until the next feeding? Buddy is not messy with his food, he just eats too fast! lol But it's gone and doesn't go anywhere else in the house. Maybe your boy has some food on his chin or something and it gets carried around the house. If that's the problem, you may just have to wipe his face once he's done. Just like a child. :)


Everyday and night all day from when he is awake I feel so stressed and annoyed by things he does. I guess its why my husband says I am too hard on Panzer. Panzer does not fit *my* lifestyle... I am not as active as I was or outgoing... but my husband is and he isnt taking care of his end of the deal by training him.
I'm sorry about your panic attacks. Those are no fun! I'm sure Panzer's behavior is adding to it but if you give him more of your time in a structured training sessions, he will start to learn and behave. Start with short sessions and teach one thing at a time with lots of praise. Puppies start their training early, so he is way behind. It will take time, so patience is needed. But one day you'll be surprised at how he is finally listening to you. :)
 
I am sorry you are being overwhelmed. Panzer sounds like a typical young Doberman who is not getting enough exercise, mental stimulation and consistency. They are powerful intelligent dogs. They all drool water like fiends too. :)

I hope you can afford to get him into a positive trainer. Please look for classes in your area or share your area, as someone might be able to give you a reference.

He needs more exercise first and foremost though. That will calm him down quite a bit.

As far as your Pug and cat, Dobes play rough, but it does not sound like he is harming them. You, however, need to set the boundaries of what he can play with. A good trainer can help you there too.

I wish you well. It sounds like a hard situation for all including Panzer.
 
Just checking in... I promise to read more responses and write back to everyone tomorrow. I am not sure if its my web browser giving me some problems (opera).
 
(I wrote a TON and lost it- my browser closed by accident)... So I was just having a talk with my husband. he just left the room all pissed off saying Panzer isnt all that bad... SO i said if we had a child would we let them act like Panzer does (not listening, running around like a nut when people come by, etc)... and i dont know how he managed to make it sound like I am the bad guy again. I guess I am over reacting. I dont have his support. He said I cannot do anything until we get income so its gonna have to wait til i get a job. He is a pharmacist with lots of experience and theres no jobs up here... but he just got his 3rd pharm license we hope fulltime work comes soon). Most days I cannot leave the house with this anxiety so im stuck here. i dont work. i suck.

Anyways im just going to stay away from everything today... some days i just spend a lot of time in the room with the chameleon or down in the basement and work on some projects... or clean stuff... already a really bad start to my day and now my husband is saying the dog isnt THAT bad...

so i dont have his support. i guess i will have to live around this somehow?

I dont know what to do. i dont find it fair because if any of my other animals bugged him to the point where he cannot be in the same room with them, then i would do something about it.

Thanks all. :) You guys made me smile.
 
Sounds like you have your hands full. Even if you can't afford a trainer, you have Internet access, a library, a vet you could call for training advice. I train my own dogs, they have been or are in the process of going to basic obedience only because their rescue contract required it. Your boy is still a baby. We had a time with our Sophie at that age. You'll be amazed what a little maturing will do. You can always start with teaching a basic sit, down, and stay. Once he's really got those, to me everything gets easier. And I am no expert, just have had dogs forever.:) No is a wonderful command for them as well. My two are 22 months and 10 1/2 months, both females. Trust me, they were/are handfuls, but I love them. They also live with 3 cats and 3 birds. Sometimes they use the cats as mops for the floor too.:) Thats when wearing the leash would come in handy for you to stop and control him. We have had our fair share of messes, water drooled all over, loveseat destroyed, shoes chewed, etc. My dogs are not crate trained either. It happens with any puppy. Poor Panzer just happens to be a big, strong pup. You are not alone. My hubby does not help with training and wouldn't know how and doesn't want to. Actually I prefer this as I like things done my way. It can work with just one person. The pets are all mine. Dobermans are not his breed of choice and especially not two so close together. He does enjoy reaping the benefits of a decently trained dog though. Training still can be accomplished, trust me. My babies are no where near perfect, but they know basic commands, sit, down, come, sometimes:D, stay, leave it, take it, no, and, I'm sure with work, Panzer will get better at it as well. It will just take time and one day you will notice less and less stress and more and more listening. It will pay off.
 
Basically my husband bought a doberman last year. He is 1 year and 2 months old... My husband said he used to train dogs and of course I said ok if that is what you are going to do then no problem geting a new dog. Well he hasnt done any training except walking him around the yard on the leash about 10 times since we GOT HIM. He says he is so well behaved on the leash but inside the house he is NUTS.

The ship has sailed on this one - It sounds like you've already picked up where your husband left off, and now that he's not going to have as much time for Panzer it will fall even more to you to be Panzer's primary caregiver. It sounds like he needs a lot more exercise. You know when it's enough when they lay down for a nap after a long exercise. At least once a day Panzer needs a long walk or run. I have a lot of flexibility right now because I'm self-employed, but I take Pippi on 2 long runs/walks of 1-2 hours, and several short walks a day (around 1/2 hour), and I know that's still not enough because she's overweight and on a limited diet. Some dogs have better metabolisms than others though, so Panzer may need much more or much less than that - I suspect that Pippi's spaying caused her to go to paunch. The exercise keeps them from getting overweight, becoming mentally unstable, and keeps them content in that they burn off the energy that the would otherwise store up and use to make mischief!

As for training, you definitely need to engage in training with him to get him under control. More formal training classes will help you understand how to train him, but you still need to train him at home and outside of a classroom setting, to reinforce the behaviors that you want from him.

Panzer still doesnt know sit OR down. I can say he does not know it because when I say "sit" he will go to the down position... sometimes he gets it right but its like he will go right to "down" from a very lazy sit because he knows its the 2nd thing to do after sit. I try and mix it up and say down first and he may sit... or say sit from when he is lying down and he wont do it. Sometimes I try and push his butt down gently as I say "sit" so he knows what I want him to do.

So it's never too late to teach a dog new behaviors. I suspect Panzer is probably confused by training between you and your husband. To start with, think about what's important - is it more important that he 'sit' vs 'down' or is it more important that he mind you when you ask him? If he sits or downs when you say 'sit' that's not the end of the world. If he doesn't do either that's a huge problem though. You don't want to have to push his butt down every time you say sit, so I don't recommend doing that all the time. I was surprised when I first figured out that someone in Pippi's past taught her hand signals, which is very convenient. You might want to teach Panzer a hand signal for 'sit' instead of using the word, then go back to the verbal word later once he's consistently gotten the hand signal for 'sit'. I use two fingers (index and middle) like the universal 'peace sign' for "sit" with Pippi. I found that when you use a hand signal for sit, it's natural for them to do a sit because your hand is above their head, which forces them to look up and their butts to go down. I taught the Giant Schnauzer the hand signal a few months ago - she got it in about two days and now her mom uses it with her. I can't tell you what a God-send it is to be able to use hand signals when you have laryngitis!! :)

Anyways the key to getting a consistent sit I think is to have Panzer, and your pug sit for everything. They need to sit before they eat, sit before their collars go on to go outside, sit and wait for you to go through the door in or out before they go in or out, sit for a treat, sit for a toy, etc. . . They should not get a single thing without sitting for it. And if your pug doesn't do this, your pug must start learning to do this now along with Panzer. If you treat one dog differently than the other, it's going to cause major problems between them and for you. If he doesn't sit on command you need to wait him out - say 'sit' then if he doesn't sit, just stand still and wait for a minute. Maybe repeat the word 'sit' once and wait again. He'll probably try different things until he figures out what you want - when he does praise the dickens out of him. After a few rounds of this he'll figure it out more quickly.

Panzer likes to bite my pug. A lot. I cannot leave them two in the same room (say I want to go to the bathroom) without him biting at her and then in turn she will chase/growl/bite/snarl at him. She used to be more tolerant but lately will attack Panzer even if he smacks a paw down close to the bone she is chewing on. I also know there was some horseplay when I see the back of my pug's neck matted down with drool from panzer's mouth.

Not good, but it's a fixable problem. Panzer may look at your Pug as competition, but he may also look at her as a toy to play with. Definitely you need to watch their interactions at all times - don't leave them alone together, and any bad behavior by either of them should warrant a time out - either crating or separation from everyone else (say in a bedroom). One other thing - you need to treat them equally - you can't let your Pug get away with things if you discipline Panzer for them, or vice-versa. If you say 'no' to Panzer getting up on the couch for example, but let the Pug come and go as he/she pleases from the couch, that's going to breed jealously between them that will result in conflict - same as with children. Dogs in general are very smart, and sense when they're not being treated equally and they don't like it if they're on the losing end. So if Panzer must sit for everything, then your Pug must too. I recently took in a Giant Schnauzer while my friend had personal issues, and I struggled at first because the GS was very rude and only partially trained. I learned quickly that I had to give both of them the same things at the same time - i had to feed them at the same time, treat them at the same time, and as long as I did that consistently we all had peace and harmony in the house. Once I figured that out, home life became a lot easier.

Panzer LOVES the cat. thing is he will block her from going upstairs or down to the basement (where her food/litter pan is)... he will step on her by getting too close... he also has jumped on her twice outside where they both went down. Thankfully she wasnt hurt either time but really freaked out

Young dogs of larger breeds sometimes take awhile to get in tune with their bodies - this is especially true of males. Some dogs take as long as two years or more to understand how to control their whole bodies, and before they do they sometimes look like two different brains are controlling their front and back legs. Panzer may be one of those boys, and it may take him several more months or as long as a year more before he can fully control his body. In the meantime you should keep him a bit removed from the cat - I'm surprised that the cat hasn't already taken the initiative to stay away from him - since she hasn't you shouldn't let them get too close to each other. Agility exercises can help Panzer to develop his coordination skills if that's something he needs to work on - wobble/balance boards and jumps help a lot with developing their coordination skills. We had advanced agility last year with a German Shepherd that was about 14 months old, and he had no idea what his back legs were doing. By the end of the class he had improved a lot, but still it'll probably be another 4-6 months before he gets fully in control of his hind quarters.

Panzer also likes to dig. We have an area in the corner of the yard where a tree stump is at where he CAN dig. He still digs multiple holes in the rest of the yard. Any tips for this?

You can try sprays like bitter apple spray in the areas where he's dug, but that'll just move him to another area until you have holes everywhere. He's probably digging for beasties that live in or around the stump (moles, mice, etc.) and other areas of the yard. He needs other distractions in the yard like toys, but they may not completely stop him from digging - especially if the critters have made a home there.

I dont like dogs in the kitchen...

A baby gate is one option - a cardboard box definitely won't get it, but understand that Dobermans like to be right under their people. A better option is to train Panzer to sit and behave properly in the kitchen (see my notes on sitting above) at all times. When he sits you need to praise him for being good - prepare to give him some little treat when you're done with whatever you're doing and after he's waited politely, so that the positive behavior is reinforced. I know these aren't the best treats, but I used to give Pippi little Milk Bones when she's been especially good in the house (she's so good in the house 24x7 now, that she doesn't look for treats for good behavior anymore).

Another thing I would like to correct is- you cannot put a jacket or coat (or shoes) on from our front room closet without being jumped on.

Pippi used to do that with me except she would punch me in the gut like Mike Tyson - I had to consistently reinforce sits and wait her out when she wouldn't sit, and turn my back on her when she tried to jump up and punch me. Sometimes I had to wait for several minutes as she tried to punch me (was pushed away) and then paced around, before she would sit on command. Eventually with a few days of this discipline she got the message, and now she sits instantly to let me put her collars and coat on when we get ready to go out for walks.

My husband "wrestles" with the dog... like everyday... I dont like horseplay in the house because normally it turns into panzer running around hitting stuff and jumping on and off the couch multiple times. He also lets Panzer jump on him and he walks with panzer up on 2 legs.

I wrestle with Pippi sometimes, but it is always outside. We're doing schutzhund though and encouraging aggression is a plus for this activity. It also allows them to burn off a lot of energy, but I would tell hubby to take the rough housing outside.

Also Panzer will not come inside when told... he will bark and jump around instead like he is mad at me.

Pippi used to do that, but I solved that quickly by leaving her out in the yard when she wouldn't come. She's a complete velcro dog so she didn't like that at all, and after two times of being left alone in the yard (for about 10 minutes each time) she hasn't done that in a long time. My yard is fully fenced (6 ft) and gated though - if your yard is not fully fenced I don't recommend leaving your dog outside alone.

My husband doesnt really play with him much. I have taken that responsibility now... i can only play with his 2 ball toys because if you grab the snake toy or rope toy, you will get attacked (not in a bad way but its way too rough).

Pippi used to do that to me, and I have a lot of holey shirts where she ripped them trying to grab at a toy I was holding. Again, I had to teach her specifically to sit before I would throw a ball, or let her grab a toy or a rope to play 'tuggas' with me. It took awhile, but when I trained her on this I had her on a prong collar, and sometimes had to grab the collar to force her to sit. That's just them being overexcited, but we have to teach them to control themselves and to be polite and play nicely - that doesn't come naturally to them!

Am I being too demanding? I

Nope, but it sounds like you have responsibility you didn't expect, and that you've had no instruction in how to deal with which I can understand is totally frustrating. You've definitely come to the right place on this forum! People will have lots of great advice for you, and it sounds like a lot of what you need is education about how to handle Panzer and how to integrate him properly into your household. I think with patience and persistence, you will come to a point where you really can love and appreciate him and his presence in your life. Dobermans have an amazing ability to adjust to situations - I suspect that when you say:

anzer will sit and stare then whine/groan. Sometimes he will just look me in my face like 6 inches away and If I say "no" or "go lay down" he just stands there and stares... even if i try to move him to get him to lay down he pushes back
he's trying to get through to you and figure out how to communicate with you too. You both have the same problem - you don't quite know how to get through to each other yet, but as you do more with him in terms of training him you will get there.

I hope this helps, and good luck!
 
:dc:
Just a thought... you said this is your husband's dog, however your husband has neglected to stay up to date with any kind of structured training making Panzer a hellion most all of the time...
Why not try training Panzer yourself? Dobermans tend to bond very tightly with the 'one' they see as leader. ( you could even start with a few simple tricks to get Panzer's brain in the learning mode - most dogs love to learn and please their people).
With you training Panzer, I would assume this bond to develop quickly without any additional stimuli... and if it does, your husband should surely notice that 'his' dog now listens to you better than him. And... I would assume Panzer's bonding with you might give your husband some initiative to pick up the ball and start training Panzer to hopefully regain the 'respect' of 'his' dog.

Normally I am not into 'trickery' to get things done, but it appears verbal requests have not gotten the results you want...
Good Luck!
 
SunnyOne61 read my mind!!!

Not going to repeat what everyone else has said.He's young enough you CAN do this.
About the only thing you can't do is fix the sloppy drinking...they all do it.

Do more training research,devise a plan and work that dog.Dont get frustrated if it doesn't work right away,you have a years worth of negative training to overcome.Stay consistent,and reward with something yummy when he does right.He will quickly learn good things come when he pays attention and reacts correctly.
I would probably start with what he (somewhat) knows,"sit" and "down".Reward every time he gets it right.

Good luck,you CAN do this!
 
I'm so sorry to hear that your husband reacted that way. Is there any chance that with time he could come around? No matter what it sounds like Panzer is your responsibility now. That said we have faith that you can do this! He is in the most trying phase right now, teenager. If you can get a handle on him now, train him, and teach him respect he will be an excellent companion. Once you get a Doberman's loyalty you'll never regret it.
 
Ditto what Gelcoater did on the sloppy drinking - I have a little mat under each of her food/water bowls to catch the dribbles. Also our food bowls are elevated which I think cuts down a little bit on the sloppiness, but not that much. There's debate about whether elevated food bowls are good or bad for large dogs, but I know they work well for my girl.
 
We use this for the sloppy drinker.image.webp

It's a rubber backed entry rug.
 
:dc: from the beautiful New Braunfels, TX :gun:.

I can't add anything that has not already been said but I can tell you that this is a progressive problem and it will continue to escalate and get worse if action is not taken. Dobermans are a wonderful breed because they are the way they are but it takes lots of attention and care to reach the potential they have but when left to themselves you risk violent and dangerous outcomes that could put all of your family at risk if he is learning aggressive and dominant behavior that is not corrected and subdued.

Don't get overwhelmed trying to do everything at one time. Start with one thing, I would start with the create training so there is relief at night and a chance for everyone to get some rest. Don't use the crate for punishment but rather a place to sleep and rest. For correction I do timeouts for Tasha & Boris. They have to lay, stay and behave for about 1-3 minutes per month (Bor is 6 months and Tasha is 10 months) depending on the crime. Aggression is not tolerated and a quick trip to the timeout corner. If they argue over a toy it's gone for at least a week. The greatest control you have is the food. Start by making him sit and wait to be released to eat. You not going to be mean by making him mind, your teaching him respect and control which is crucial for a Dobe. For a dobe one of two things are going to happen, either he is going to dominate or you are. Be stern, consistent and send hubby to the timeout corner if you have!

Take it one task at a time and try not to get to exasperated you can change this and when you can afford training GET IT ASAP! Again welcome to DC!
 

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