Long story short: My last Doberman was playing with a dog with a collar on and got her canine tooth stuck in a hole (for the buckle-tongue) in the other dogs collar. The dog flipped around and the collar twisted down on his neck and Dietrich was screaming because it was pulling on her tooth and the other dog was choking and gagging - both were scared. Since we were right there we freed them up and no harm done, but one of those lessons I never forgot.

and we ended up jacking the thread. Back then there were enough uncertainties to just say "probably".




