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My girl is sick... again.

Well, you know Jax, my Mom, and I are all praying nonstop for this baby.
Continued prayers...maybe it will take a few days for the steroids to really get in there and start doing their work. Last night she probably just felt a tinge of "damn, I feel kind of like myself, and I want to snuggle Mom and Dad." She likely needs to just rest, take it at her own pace, and give it time.
We love you guys and are here for you 24/7.
 
My pups got their set of vaccines and that's it. Now we will do titers every year. The rabies we are legally locked into, otherwise I would not do that one. There has not been a case of rabies down here for over 50 yrs.
 
Tropicalbri's said:
My pups got their set of vaccines and that's it. Now we will do titers every year. The rabies we are legally locked into, otherwise I would not do that one. There has not been a case of rabies down here for over 50 yrs.
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And there are only 17 states that you can get a medical exemption for vaccinations.
 
Unfortunately titers aren't always an option :( its much more expensive to do that here, as opposed to vaccinating. There are also very few places that will accept titers as well, I've already looked into it
 
Jax and I will be at his vet tomorrow to get his Trifexis and do a weigh-in (and our monthly shoot-the-shit-with-the-staff) visit. Out of curiosity and concern, I'm sure I'll end up asking some questions regarding Miesha's condition, but due to the fact that almost every thread lately ends up having a vax debate on it, I will also be armed with loads of articles that have been linked here on the forum!! I wonder if I'll leave with more questions or more answers...we shall see.
Back on topic...oh, never mind, I'd have to go back a page just to see the latest update.
We will just keep on hoping and praying and hoping that girl feels like opening Christmas presents next week!!
 
MischasMomma said:
Unfortunately titers aren't always an option :( its much more expensive to do that here, as opposed to vaccinating. There are also very few places that will accept titers as well, I've already looked into it
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If your Vet will draw blood and get the serum you can send it yourself to Dr. Jean Dodds at www.hemopet.org Way under a $100 with shipping. They all should accept Titers for Parvo, Distemper and Adeno. No they will not for Rabies as of yet.
But you are playing Russian Roulette if you keep vaccinating with the problem she has.

If places will not accept a Titer. I would not be giving them my business. Ask them if you could sign a waiver if your dog got sick. They are just trying to protect themselves legally. If they say your dog might get the other dogs sick then they don't believe the other dogs that are vaccinated are protected!!!!!!!!!!!

A Titer is a medically proven diagnostic test!

Actually its 18 States now!

You are in luck Pa has medical exemption for Rabies Go down to number 15

States with Medical Exemptions in Lieu of Rabies Vaccination - Rabies Challenge Fund
 
strykerdobe said:
I just talked to a Holistic Vet. She said yes that Polyarthritis can be caused by vaccines!
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Yep, i know. And thank you for the warning regarding future vaccines post-diagnosis. The current literature says for a drug or vaccine to be considered the inciting cause, they have to have been given within 30 days of onset of signs. In Miesha's case, her last vaccines were given around 4/5 months old.. she is 15 months today, so luckily we know that isn't the cause, but it certainly is something that all dog owners should be educated about.

She is coming up due after the new year. My plan if she makes it through this is to discuss a course of action with my vet.. of course i absolutely will not risk anything that could trigger a relapse.:nono: I couldn't knowingly let her endure this again.

I have mentioned in another of the endless vaccine threads that i absolutely agree with the idea of refraining from vaccines when possible - For me, ideally this would be after the 1st year boosters are done and then run titers annually/triennially as necessary. Where i live, this is a pretty expensive choice and not one we can readily afford. Had Miesha been a normal healthy dog, the plan was to revaccinate her at a year old which would be good for 3 years and then follow up @4yrs old with the legally mandated Rabies.. and take situations such as places that require UTD vax as the situation arises.

[i swear if my auto correct changes "titer" into "tiger" one more time... :complain:]

Anyway i thank you all again for your unbelievable support and friendship. If i could respectfully ask a favor to refrain from turning this thread into yet another campaign against vaccines? It would mean a lot to me. :oops:
 
Prushanks said:
Yep, i know. And thank you for the warning regarding future vaccines post-diagnosis. The current literature says for a drug or vaccine to be considered the inciting cause, they have to have been given within 30 days of onset of signs. In Miesha's case, her last vaccines were given around 4/5 months old.. she is 15 months today, so luckily we know that isn't the cause, but it certainly is something that all dog owners should be educated about.

She is coming up due after the new year. My plan if she makes it through this is to discuss a course of action with my vet.. of course i absolutely will not risk anything that could trigger a relapse.:nono: I couldn't knowingly let her endure this again.

I have mentioned in another of the endless vaccine threads that i absolutely agree with the idea of refraining from vaccines when possible - For me, ideally this would be after the 1st year boosters are done and then run titers annually/triennially as necessary. Where i live, this is a pretty expensive choice and not one we can readily afford. Had Miesha been a normal healthy dog, the plan was to revaccinate her at a year old which would be good for 3 years and then follow up @4yrs old with the legally mandated Rabies.. and take situations such as places that require UTD vax as the situation arises.

[i swear if my auto correct changes "titer" into "tiger" one more time... :complain:]

Anyway i thank you all again for your unbelievable support and friendship. If i could respectfully ask a favor to refrain from turning this thread into yet another campaign against vaccines? It would mean a lot to me. :oops:
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No problem. I'm not against vaccinating. I'm against over-vaccinating, especially for a pet that has an immune system disorder. Or one that has a compromised immune system.
Also from Dr. Ronald Schultz, PhD who has over 40yrs of research in the immune system and vaccines. Reactions from vaccines can be up to 1 yr. Which most vets will not make a connection of a sickness and the vaccines.
 
Delivery is (in my mind) 95% of the efficacy of any message. Over-delivery (see any commercial that gets in your head so annoyingly that you will NEVER buy a product from the company) causes deafness to a message. Your message is CRUCIALLY important. Having the last word is unimportant.
I will not comment on this thread again. (That is of no consequence. I am a nobody-first-time-BYB Dobe owner, and readily admit I know NOTHING). However, I think it is HORRIBLY disrespectful to be asked by the person ("Mom" of a sick dog) to cease the vax education in this thread about her ill dog, and then blatantly disregard that request.
 
I'm glad you guys have an answer now. Heres to recovery! Are you guys thinking it is Type 3? I've never heard of this before but it is interesting to read about it. There is a vetmed paper about the disease here... Recognizing and treating immune-mediated polyarthritis in dogs

Of course, I'm sure you've scoured the net researching but just in case, I included it.

Idiopathic type III IMPA is associated with chronic gastrointestinal disease and has been reported with inflammatory bowel disease, intestinal malabsorption, bacterial overgrowth, and ulcerative colitis.1,5,8,15
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Drug-induced polyarthritis
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IMPA has been associated with the administration of a variety of medications, including sulfonamides, lincomycin, erythromycin, cephalosporins, phenobarbital, and penicillins.1,2,4 Sulfonamides, including sulfadiazine, sulfamethoxazole, and sulfadimethoxine, are most commonly implicated.21-24 Polyarthritis induced by sulfonamides is most notable in Doberman pinschers and other large breeds and occurs at recommended drug dosages.

Signs of polyarthritis occur, on average, five to 20 days after drug exposure.21-24
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Poor girl. Get better soon Miesha girl. Many hugs to you and your Momma!:biggrin:
 
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