Just for fun, since there are so many experienced dobe folk here with other big strong dog history...

Well you guessed 3 of them, and in order - top 3 are Alaskan Malamute at 33%, German Shepherd Dog, Rottweiler. There are 5 more. 😄
😉 i must have imagined you said that...black "alaska shepherd"

And then there are these- an example of a breed enthusiast trying to fix a genetic disease:

But back to the DNA of the mystery dog...
(Are you thinking of bringing home, or already have? Where did DNA info come from...curious minds):

So, guessing further...
#4...Swedish Valhunds have six toes...1/6th of 100% is 16%? So maybe add only 16% to go from 4 to 5 toes...?
(Okay I am being silly on the genetics...)

But...#5 let's see...labs have webs...
big square nose, wide face?
Has to be a lab mix.
All the rescues say "lab mix"!
 
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I will sometimes observe...well, the poodle was originally a high drive hunting dog bred to go in the water...er "Pudel" to be more accurate. And that drive CAN be put to work...IF you find a good human trainer.
I saw a poodle who came to our schutzhund club. I think this dog had his Sch-2, had fantastic working drive, excellent bitework. They really can be a good all-around breed.
 
I saw a poodle who came to our schutzhund club. I think this dog had his Sch-2, had fantastic working drive, excellent bitework. They really can be a good all-around breed.
There is a Spoo owner on the other forum, very knowledgeable-show mostly but I'm intrigued about the hunting side.

I also like the looks and intimidation factor of a black Spoo with a close cut all over...wannabe "curly coat dobe!"

I agree, great all around family functional dog properly trained to a job. They are one of the "Fab Four" in corporate Service Dog world.

What I dont understand is why they dock only 1/3 of the tail end?
 
Well you guessed 3 of them, and in order - top 3 are Alaskan Malamute at 33%, German Shepherd Dog, Rottweiler. There are 5 more. 😄
Okay, well I was going to say definitely malamute with that head, possibly chow--both breeds have a very definite stop on the face. Curled-over tail--also both chow and malamute. The Norwegian Lundehund is the only one I know of that has extra toes (not just dewclaws), and that would smallify the malamute part. Although lundehunds have a curly tail too. And lab, like BG says above, w/ the webbed toes, plus there seems to be lab in every mutt out there.
 
There is a Spoo owner on the other forum, very knowledgeable-
I like the looks and intimidation factor of a black Spoo with a close cut all over...wannabe "curly coat dobe!"

I agree, great all around family functional dog properly trained to a job. They are one of the "Fab Four" in corporate Service Dog world.

What I dont understand is why they dock only 1/3 of the tail end?
It could be to leave enough tail to grab hold of. I think that's done a lot w/ the terriers, in order to have something to grab hold of to pull them out of a burrow.
 
Okay, well I was going to say definitely malamute with that head, possibly chow--both breeds have a very definite stop on the face. Curled-over tail--also both chow and malamute. The Norwegian Lundehund is the only one I know of that has extra toes (not just dewclaws), and that would smallify the malamute part. Although lundehunds have a curly tail too. And lab, like BG says above, w/ the webbed toes, plus there seems to be lab in every mutt out there.
Oops you're right @Sunje I got the Valhund and Lundehund mixed up. Being a squarehead skandy mutt I should know better.
 
😉 i must have imagined you said that...black "alaska shepherd"

And then there are these- an example of a breed enthusiast trying to fix a genetic disease:

But back to the DNA of the mystery dog...
(Are you thinking of bringing home, or already have? Where did DNA info come from...curious minds):

So, guessing further...
#4...Swedish Valhunds have six toes...1/6th of 100% is 16%? So maybe add only 16% to go from 4 to 5 toes...?
(Okay I am being silly on the genetics...)

But...#5 let's see...labs have webs...
big square nose, wide face?
Has to be a lab mix.
All the rescues say "lab mix"!
Already have. Puppy was given to a homeless veteran who then gave it to us because, well, he was homeless, intentionally, living his life in the forest. We did the DNA breed testing on him when he was a pup, think it was a Wisdom.

No Valhund, no Lab.

possibly chow
No chow, but there is an Asian Spitz breed

And the fifth toe, is like a red herring...a genetic mutation of some sort maybe, it is said to happen sometimes in GSD and Rotti, but I've never seen it before.
 
Already have. Puppy was given to a homeless veteran who then gave it to us because, well, he was homeless, intentionally, living his life in the forest. We did the DNA breed testing on him when he was a pup, think it was a Wisdom.

No Valhund, no Lab.


No chow, but there is an Asian Spitz breed

And the fifth toe, is like a red herring...a genetic mutation of some sort maybe, it is said to happen sometimes in GSD and Rotti, but I've never seen it before.
Ah, then akita? I think they have dewclaws anyway.

The eyes just look doberman to me. I know you will eventually fill us in, but...no matter what, he sure is a handsome dog! Has such an intelligent look to him, and a kind eye.

Oh! I want to guess heeler too. Face, eye, expression and stop, and muzzle length all scream heeler/Aussie cattle dog to me.

Just looked at some photos--same heavy neck, general build, just not the curly tail.
 
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Ah, then akita? I think they have dewclaws anyway.

The eyes just look doberman to me. I know you will eventually fill us in, but...no matter what, he sure is a handsome dog! Has such an intelligent look to him, and a kind eye.
Yes, there is Akita, don't know if they have rear dewclaws, but they do have webbed feet...and funny you should pick out the eyes...yes, he does have Doberman in there too.

So far, in order of percentage
Alaskan Malamute
German Shepherd Dog
Rottweiler
Doberman Pinscher
Akita

There are 3 more, and the last one was listed as 1%, and not something you're ever going to guess, so the 1% is

St. Bernard 😆 (maybe they used them to make the giant Malamute, idk)

That leaves just two. One is a terrier and one is another Spitz breed from the working group.

Thank you, he is a good looking dog, very intelligent, very high prey drive and killer of furry vermin but great guardian of the chickens. A very good boy, mostly. Does however have separation anxiety and screams like a wounded cow when left alone.
 
I've been out for several days, trying to catch up now. When I first saw the dogs photo my first thought Aus Kelpie in the mix, but now to the end of the thread I don't think that belongs to terrier or Spitz group. but the physical traits are also clearly seen represented by all the ones so far listed. I know Rotties can have back dew claw, so with color pattern and hair coat I had GSD and Rottie in the mix. What a fabulous dog no matter. Love the guessing game!
 
Also, they have seem to have no loyalty to home. The community I live in has a lost & found pet page on the internet and I constantly see "husky got out again". Dug under or climbed over, but non-stop escaping. They were made to set out on a trail and never look back!
I'm just catching up on this thread so this is from a few pages back LOL Our first large dog was the Doberman. Before that we had Pomeranians, which I loved! But when our Pomeranian was 7 years old we were looking for a larger dog. My sister had a hand in our choice because of her experience with several other breeds. When we mentioned husky, this (above quote) is exactly what she had said! They run! Every Husky she's ever known did not have any loyalty to its family. And they always were an escape artist. That was a NO for us.
They are similar in that they bond to their handler, velcro dogs, protection focused, and loving and goofy with their family.
And then she mentioned this one. The Doberman. Loyal, loving and protective. Loyal to its family won me over. :thumbsup: And I loved the look of the Doberman. Horses have always been my first love and at the time I didn't have a horse. The Doberman really kind of filled that need! LOL Sleek, and Powerful just like a horse!

I think a person's experience with a particular breed will sometimes set the tone for a love/hate relationship. I had three experiences with a Rottweiler. One was back when our children were young. Going to a party at our daughter's friend's house, they had a rottweiler. A huge one! The party was out on there Big Deck and the Rottweiler was crated out there too. Anytime anyone went over to see the dog, it acted like it was going to burst out of that crate! :eek: Barking and acting aggressive! I was very intimidated by that dog! He was not friendly at all. And I'm sure in my mind Rottweiler was mentally crossed off my list!

And then more recently, we used to have a neighbor a few doors down with a Rottweiler. One day I rode my horse down there to pick something up. As I approached and saw the dog, I started talking to the dog saying it's name. Someone told me once that if you say the name, it helps them to think of you as not a threat. Don't know if that's true but that's what I was trying. But I can tell by the demeanor and body language that he wasn't having it. He was circling my horse and I knew this wasn't going to go well. I jumped off to try and calm the situation. Well he was eyeing my horse and started to go for her back end! We went round and round in a circle with me pulling my horse ahead with one arm and trying to grab the dog behind her with the other. The dog had an electric collar on and the woman was trying to stop him but either it wasn't working or he didn't care! He was going to bite my horse! And I wasn't going to let that happen! My horses don't kick and at that moment I wished she did!

At one point I finally grabbed the dog by the collar and the woman attached a leash. But as they were walking away she couldn't control him and he knocked her down and he came back at me and we went round and round again. At this point I literally felt like I wanted to kill that dog! No way was he going to hurt my horse! We went round in a circle again till I grabbed him and twisted that collar as hard as I could to subdue him. At that point I didn't even care if I choked him. I was hot! She finally got him in the house but I hated that dog from that point on. And the Rottweiler breed!

Then years later, a friend and I spotted two young Rottweilers roaming the neighborhood. That doesn't happen too often down here. I mean almost everybody's got a dog but you don't see loose dogs very often. This was a male and a female and fairly young. Possibly a year old. Maybe even less. I think I posted that story on the board before. It's kind of a long story but we tried to catch these dogs to either find the owner or find someone to take them. Actually had a cop come out and he would have taken them in his car but they wouldn't get in. They didn't trust us. We were feeding them treats and even got in the cop car to try and entice them inside.

We lost sight of them after a while and the next day Animal Control was called. I did not have a good feeling about them at all. 🤨 So I was going to find them before Animal Control. I finally spotted the male dog and had raw meat with me. He was very friendly! Just scared. I finally had the him eating out of my hand and I called someone who actually had Rottweilers and was very interested in taking him. He was a great guy! He really tried to find them when we lost them the day before. I can tell his intentions were good. Not like animal control. I told him I have the male and he is eating out of my hand. Very friendly and finally coming up to me. He was lovely! This was after I lost Buddy so I didn't have a big dog and he was tempting. But I really knew nothing about Rottweilers except for my experience. He was the 'good' experience though! 😉 Very sweet! Young enough I guess to be a sweetheart. But this guy knew Rottweilers and I knew he would be a better fit. He came and he took him and I'm sure he's got a great home with him.

Couple of days later we got notified that the female got hit on the road and killed. This was the two Lane Highway about a mile from our house and road where we first spotted them. I cried like a baby when I heard that! I wanted to save them both! The guy who took the male actually went to the site of the accident and scanned it for a chip. But there was none on either dog . And he took the dog to bury it . I'll never forget his kindness. But that was my 'good' Rottweiler experience! 🥰
 
I think a person's experience with a particular breed will sometimes set the tone for a love/hate relationship.
I think this is very true. My friend who has Reckless had 3 Rottweilers (one at the time) from the '80's to '90's. They were all super dogs, very social, but also pretty intimidating to anyone they didn't trust. But they were raised right, trained and always under control. I was intending to get a Rottweiler for my first dog: Another friend of mine had horses and a Rottie bitch which she bred to my friends male Rottweiler, and I let her use my stallion on her mare. Plan was she would get a foal and I would get a Rottie puppy. As fate would have it, her bitch did not take, but her mare did, she got a foal and I didn't get a puppy, but before her dog came back in heat, I ended up with a BYB homeless Doberman. I really do love Rottweilers, but once a Doberman came into my life, I never wanted anything else. Also working at the vet clinic back then there were many breeds I crossed off a potential wish list when it became obvious what behaviors and characteristics came with them.
 
When I was about 15 and attending a church picnic in SW Virginia, I watched as a St. Bernard approached a 4 yr old and bit him in the face. I've never been comfortable around them since.
My aunt and uncle had a St. Bernard. Was well trained and always off leash. That dog hated me. First introduction it attacked and put me through the sliding glass door. I was 13. My aunt and uncle lived a few blocks away, so later on a few months while walking with friends it came looking for me. I told my friends to back away from me, because the dog was after me, not them. Very strange to have a dog hunt you down. My uncle came running after his dog, and I'm grateful I wasn't mauled to death. Eventually he was PTS after attacking the mailman. Some dogs just have lousy temperaments, I still love St. Bernards!
 
You jumped off your horse, man you were brave. I had a similar situation, out riding one horse and ponying another. On public land, where dogs were not allowed. Get to the top of a hill and there were some people and 3 dogs, 2 where some kind of pit bull, and the third was a golden retriever. Dogs made a bee line to me, growling and barking. I immediately screamed at the people to get their dogs, and turned my horses butts to the dogs. Horses accurately nailed those dogs, and the dogs retreated.

At another park a woman allowed her horse to touch noses with a large dog, it may have been a Rottweiler, and the Rott attacked her horse, she came off, horse took off and the Rott turned it's attention to the woman.
 

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