When inserting the post in the ear, gently up up on the ear and twist the post down in the ear. You need to get the post in the ear as far as possible and that will solve the problem.
I need of help/advice - play biting, pawing, ear posting solo
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When inserting the post in the ear, gently up up on the ear and twist the post down in the ear. You need to get the post in the ear as far as possible and that will solve the problem.
Lose the bridge. It’s purpose was to hold ears in position until the pup has muscle control. You did great by the way!!!
Mearntain
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Not at all, i wish I did. They came back out again this morning and I have them "reposted", but I'm pretty sure the way they are now is counter productive. One ear is sorta scrunched up at the bottom.
Not sure what I should do. Whether I should just leave them as they are now in a bad position or just remove the completely and leave them flopping.
This is what the ear looks like. When placing the post, put it as deep as you can while pulling upward on the ear. You cannot harm the ear canal because it slopes inward before reaching the inner ear and drum. I used my backer rod back wrapped and I used torbots glue as well. I taped the bottom of the ear first with one piece of tape, then the top with one piece of tape. What size backer rod are you using? You may have to use the 3/8” or if using 1/2” then trim the bottom of the backer rod to more of a point so it goes deeper in the ear.
My2Dobies
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I just wanted to chime in and tell you that you have my complete sympathy with the perils of posting. Although I had Dobermans before, my current girl was my first time to post ears. It was daunting. And, yes, within 5-10 minutes, she’d pop those suckers right out! That is, until @Tropicalbri's picture that she posted above. I was in no way putting the posts down deep enough. Lots of good advice and supportive comments from the members here helped me to not give up. Watching the video of how to post ears with backer-rod method from this site pretty much daily until I had the confidence that I was doing it right. One extra trick that we did was, after we applied the tape holding the posts to the ears, we gently squished the ears up and down the rod to encourage them to adhere to the sticky back-tape of the rod. And buying a Kong, filling it with her regular kibble and giving it to her immediately after posting so she had something else to focus on for those first few minutes after posting really helped. Because of my girl having a long show crop, we are still posting at this point. But my little Squirrelly-girl will actually jump up on the loveseat and “assume the position” on her own at this point, eager to get the post-ear treats. Every time gets easier and better, for both of you. Hang in there!
Keep working at it. You will not only get better but more efficient.
Once you know you are pushing all the way down into bell, it just takes a little time for him to get used to them in his ears. Then it should be a lot easier.
That’s the problem I always had when I would check his ears out of post. After a day or two out of post, he would forget how it felt and I would have to battle his ass from shaking out post for two days. Now this was at the 6.5-7month mark.
Once you know you are pushing all the way down into bell, it just takes a little time for him to get used to them in his ears. Then it should be a lot easier.
That’s the problem I always had when I would check his ears out of post. After a day or two out of post, he would forget how it felt and I would have to battle his ass from shaking out post for two days. Now this was at the 6.5-7month mark.
Mearntain
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The part that's getting me is every person I talk to tells me something different, and i dont really know what to do. I'm not implying any of you are wrong by any means, just stating the fact.
Currently she has half posts in, sitting on the little bump in her ear. When the person from the Facebook group helped me Last week, she did half posts and they held up for 7 days, and possibly could have gone longer but I decided to replace them last night.
Some people tell me to do full posts, other say half posts. Some say use glue, others say absolutely not. Then some people say I've got to use a bridge, other say dont. Some say it needs to be a solid bridge, others say never a solid bridge..etc etc.
I tried inserting the posts all the way down into the ear before, and she wouldnt stop messing with them. With the half posts, she doesnt really scratch these. Everytime they've fallen out this time has been from her doing a little playful roll on the ground with her toys and they pop out as if there was no adhesive on the tape.
After wrapping loosely, I do firmly squeeze on the tape to help set it in place.
Currently she has half posts in, sitting on the little bump in her ear. When the person from the Facebook group helped me Last week, she did half posts and they held up for 7 days, and possibly could have gone longer but I decided to replace them last night.
Some people tell me to do full posts, other say half posts. Some say use glue, others say absolutely not. Then some people say I've got to use a bridge, other say dont. Some say it needs to be a solid bridge, others say never a solid bridge..etc etc.
I tried inserting the posts all the way down into the ear before, and she wouldnt stop messing with them. With the half posts, she doesnt really scratch these. Everytime they've fallen out this time has been from her doing a little playful roll on the ground with her toys and they pop out as if there was no adhesive on the tape.
After wrapping loosely, I do firmly squeeze on the tape to help set it in place.
Mearntain
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A different question related to the original post, but not the ear posting part -
Currently I leave all of her toys on the ground inside for her to get at anytime she wants. Should I not be doing that? Picking them all up and putting them away at certain times? Not sure why this thought just crossed my mind
Currently I leave all of her toys on the ground inside for her to get at anytime she wants. Should I not be doing that? Picking them all up and putting them away at certain times? Not sure why this thought just crossed my mind
My only concern with leaving them available is ingestion of a toy and you not realizing it, then creating the possibility of a foreign body obstruction which if not caught in time could kill her. I would keep her toys in a basket and let her pick one at a time to teach manners of not having toys strewn everywhere.
I would like to respond to your post regarding the ear posting. I have been posting ears on many different breeds since the middle 70’s. There are many techniques and you need to find one that works best for you. Many people have not used some of the methods and many have not used the glue or knew someone that used a glue that hurt the ears, like a weather proofing glue etc. The newer skin adhesives are safe but you have to use the UniSolve to remove the glue. I like it because it is the most gentle on the ears that I have found as it contains aloe. The unisolve swabs dissolves the glue quickly leaving the ears clean and soft. Then just use an alcohol or other cleaning swab to clean them of the residue, let them dry, then repost.
Years ago I heard of people using lighter fluid, polish remover (acetone) to remove the glue and tape.
Not a healthy thing to do. Find what works best for you and does the job correctly and that will make it so much easier for you. There is a video tutorial in the Puppy posting methods thread. Look at it and that may help you. The bridge is generally only used for the first couple of weeks of posting until the pup has muscle control of his ears. A hard bridge runs the risk of them catching it on something as they play and could harm the ears if the puppy panics and rips the posts off. It will rip hair and all off creating sores and not wanting the ears touched because they become painful from that type of trauma.Just judge for yourself what works best.
Kaiser2016
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The best part about having so much feedback is that you’re bound to find the one thing that works for YOU.
Atingles10
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Its so hard because not every dog is the same. You need to find what works for you and your pup. Due to problems the vet created when he posted our guy we didn't do the backer rod method. Not to mention our guy has a big bell and we just couldn't get them to stay.
We researched and landed on a combination of mole foam and zip tie method. Its not the route most people go but it worked for us.
Its hard with all the different opinions and not every dog's ears are the same. I would say to change them out every 5 days though to avoid another infection. I hope you can find a way that works for you and your pup!
I agree that there are a ton of different methods to post ears and if it gets the job done, it's not wrong. I do disagree with the people who told you to never do something because different things work for different people.
I personally used backer rod with the surgical adhesive and remover with good results. Many other people back-tape the backer rods with results just as good so it's a matter of what works best for you. One of my friends even used rolled up paper towels in the ears and they came out great.
The biggest thing to remember is to stay calm so your pup stays calm. The two we have now used to fall asleep in my lap when I posted them since it was relaxing for them.
I personally used backer rod with the surgical adhesive and remover with good results. Many other people back-tape the backer rods with results just as good so it's a matter of what works best for you. One of my friends even used rolled up paper towels in the ears and they came out great.
The biggest thing to remember is to stay calm so your pup stays calm. The two we have now used to fall asleep in my lap when I posted them since it was relaxing for them.
Doberman Gang
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I agree, I always use backer rod and back tape. I have done molded foam method, zip tie method and tampon method. They will all work. Backer rod was the easiest to always have supplied in hand. I will say once you have started your method always prep all your pieces and have ready so when you start it makes it go fast and smooth. Your puppy will eventually learn the process and settle down making it easier
Mearntain
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Luckily the person from the Facebook group offered to help post them again on Sunday, and they've held up great since. It looks like it's time for them to be changed again now, but I'm hoping for them to hold out until tomorrow so I can have the whole weekend to try and get them right ha. This time I'll be using torbots glue, and hopefully shell be a little calmer this time. Wish me luck! I'm definitely going to need it..
Mearntain
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Well I managed to get the reposted tonight, I use the word "reposted" lightly. They're up and wrapped, but I must be doing something wrong still. They're not standing right. Its really difficult with her not staying still, but it is slightly getting better. Think I'm going to retry it again in the morning. Did it twice today so far.
I know this is and old thread but I was taught by my vet to do rolled paper towel with back taping and that method work awesome with my male. But I reposted my female yesterday and the same method that worked with my male didn’t work for her and I did the backer rod method and it’s working a ton better for her. Posting my male was big learning experience for me and it’s hard my first couple time the post came out in like 2 hours. In time I got it figured out and my posts would last 4-5 days.
Mearntain
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I've got the posting figured out now, and my pup has mostly gotten used to it too. I use the backer rod method, half posts with a solid bridge. On average, the postings will last me 3-7 days now. I'm definitely looking forward to the day that I'm done having to post though!
Looking great!
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