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Hans Again With Fear

Discussion in 'Senior Dobermans' started by Ingrid H, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    That's awesome Ingrid! Persistence and patience definitely pays off.

     
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  2. Tropicalbri's

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    That is so great to hear. Retraining the brain to positive reinforcement. Chicken rules! :D
     
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  3. Ingrid H

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    You are both so right. It takes so much patience and chicken never hurts ;) I can see him getting over this hurdle. I just have to take it slow and keep his experiences as positive as possible.
     
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  4. Tropicalbri's

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    You have got this. I have no doubt you will have Hans ready to ride in no time!
     
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  5. Gelcoater

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    :thumbsup:

    Turkey works here too;)
    And ham??!
    Since it's a bit salty I save it for when someone's being stubborn:)
     
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  6. Kaiser2016

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    I just can't believe he rejected hot dog. :screamcat:

    And for chicken? :wtf2:

    But seriously, I am happy to hear the progress. What a boy!
     
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  7. Viemarangelrock

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    You must be thrilled, @Ingrid H! Good boy Hans, that's awesome! :thumbsup:

    He's associating the car with good things. Plenty of positive reinforcement. He's doing a grand job at getting over his phobia.
     
  8. Ingrid H

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    You don't seem to want to name names, but might that "somone" be Rocky? :rofl:

    I couldn't believe that hot dog wasn't more motivational than it was either. He was extremely interested in the slicing process in the kitchen, but when it came to training time he shut down so badly that wouldn't have given caviar a sniff. He was just flattened on the ground with his head turned away wishing he could be anywhere else :(

    I am thrilled for sure :thumbsup: I'm not even closing the door on the car yet. He's just jumping in and out. It was really fun yesterday. We will progress to short rides and the :devil:VET.
     
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  9. GennyB

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    I can. Drake won't touch a hot dog. :rolleyes:. He won't eat fast food either. I was traveling to a dog show. We stopped at a fast food place for lunch. It was suggested we get a burger for the dogs as a treat. The other dogs gobbled it right up. Drake let the piece I gave him drop to the ground. Wouldn't touch it. Can't say I blame him.

    I'm excited about the progress Hans is making. You'll be going for joy rides before you know it!
     
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  10. MyBuddy

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    Me too!! You are doing a great job, @Ingrid H !!
     
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  11. JanS

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    Our dogs don't like hot dogs either and I can't blame them. I stopped at an A & W to grab a burger on the way to the show and left the last bite for Della. No way...

    Ham is one thing Albert has a hard time resisting but like Gel said, it can be too salty to give them too much. Tuna is their absolute favorite but it's not like I'm going to start carrying that in my pocket. LOL
     
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  12. MyBuddy

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    Sardines! I add them to their
    meal at times and OMG they love it! A little hard to handle if trying to get a dog in a vehicle, but you can put it in a small dish? Neither one of mine would resist! :)
     
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  13. GennyB

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    I think we should listen to them. It seems our dogs have an adversity to processed food.
     
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  14. Kaiser2016

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    I had seen a Dobe video where the dog was crazy about hamburgers from McDonald's. He would literally begin his whining when his owner entered the drive through. He would get restless and pace in the car. She ordered 2 and the dog just scarfed them down.

    I'm not keen on giving hot dogs to K but his previous trainer did that and she found dogs to be highly responsive to it. I switched him out to a non processed cheese instead. Still a smelly treat but better for him. On the other hand, there is ME who just has to have a few hot dogs during BBQ season. Can't quit some of my childhood comfort foods and hot dogs are definitely one! :laughing:
     
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  15. Kaiser2016

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    Over the weekend Kaiser sampled a baked dog biscuit made with lemon and lavender. The other Dobes didn't like it and I said K will eat anything give it to him. He took it into his mouth and spit it back out lol. They definitely know what they don't like!
     
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  16. JanS

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    Thankfully McDonald's food is another thing ours won't touch. :wtf3: Someone at work insisted I take a sausage biscuit so I hid it in my cooler and offered some to the dogs when I got home and they turned their nose up just as much as me.
     
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  17. MyBuddy

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    How's Hans doing??
     
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  18. Ingrid H

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    Hans is doing very well physically, but his mental state is another issue. He's scared by the smallest things like tonight I came home with my arms full of stuff that I was barely balancing coming through the door. Hans came to greet me as usual and I dumped a box of contractor cleanup bags on top of another box that was sitting near the door. That was enough to freak him out and he retreated to his bed. He came back to the kitchen as I was cleaning out my lunchbox and had a container to lick, but it took awhile. He's been getting more off leash running time, but he's yelped in pain (with no visible injury) twice on that property and will not forget it. We have to take him on leash past where he experienced pain and then let him go once he is past the "danger zones". We don't coddle him or reinforce his fears. He's never been good with pain and has a big brain that can make associations. The good news is that I set off the smoke detector the other day and recovered quickly.
     
  19. MyBuddy

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    Fear is such a weird thing. I mean, I can relate a bit with how Hans reacts. Buddy has often displayed a fearful nature. Not to the extent that he doesn't recover. Or that he would even retreat to his bed. But just some things that I kind of slap my head and think, Oh, Buddy! :facepalm: LOL. He doesn't like to be cornered, so to speak. It's like he's claustrophobic. If he is laying on his bed and someone comes to pet him (mostly someone other than me) he will get up and move away if he feels like you're cornering him. But he'll even do it was me sometimes if he feels too confined.

    If you are walking by carrying something and he is laying in the way, he will jump up and move. Which you might think is a good thing. But sometimes I'm just walking around him, and his movement will do the opposite of what I was going to do and almost causean accident. Kind of like walking down a hall and encountering a person coming the other way and you do the dance! Who's going on which side? LOL And sometimes he's scrambles so! Feet scrambling! Again I think, Oh, Buddy LOL

    The other day I was showing my husband the lighted collar that I put on Buddy in the dark. I wanted to show him how to slip it on and off. As my husband reached for Buddy, he ducked away! Oh, Buddy! I told my husband, you just have to call him to you and gently take it off. You've never done it before and you just grabbed at him. He probably was wondering what you were doing.

    But those are the silly things where he shows a little fear. But thank God he recovers quickly. He's just unsure at that moment. I've worked with him since he came into our lives on this. But I guess there will always be a few quirks.

    Now, Hans developed some of these fears recently, though, right? Its not like Buddy who came to us with them?
     
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  20. JanS

    JanS DCF Owner Administrative Staff Moderator Hot Topics Subscriber

    I honestly think that as they age and their hearing and vision isn't as good as it used be, some things can make them a little more uncertain.

    It seems that Della's vision and hearing are both still pretty good but her litter mate wasn't as lucky so that's why Epic (the other Doberman) bowled her over since she didn't see or hear him coming. :( He didn't mean to get to rough but it's hard when one is older than the other and more fragile.

    I'm glad Hans is physically doing well and at least you know most of his fear triggers so you can work around them.
     
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