Doberman Image. A Good Or A Bad Thing?

I never said it did - if you read what I wrote I said the name that the marines used was picked up and carried to the dogs.


This is basically what I said. And by reading the history you will learn that it is not just a rumor. So not sure what point you are missing.

:)
 
MGW I'm not sure if it's considered it an insult everywhere.
I do remember being in Oceanside with my friend (who is a marine) and his buddies from his unit. We hit a bar where an army dude passing through said "whats up devil dogs" they beat that poor man to an inch of his life for it.
But they called eachother devil dogs all night. I made sure not to say it to one of them haha.
That's a totally different situation. I'm sure he meant it in a negative context and they would have taken special offense at one of their treasured nicknames being used as an insult. I asked John before I responded to your first questions so my responses were all confirmed by him.
 
I generally stick to something like telling them that they are protective, depending on who's asking. If someone like those dreaded meat salesmen come to the door I'll bring one with me and hold on to it so when they ask if they're mean I'll reply "not unless I let go of them".
Omg Jan that is too dang funny, I think I will use that line next time someone comes to the door...
On the subject though I usually tell people that any dog can be vicious, depending on the owner but in Dobermanns the breeder has a lot to do with how the dog will turn out and I explain about back yard breeders and about breeders who really care about the dogs and breed for good temperment. Ok nuff said...signing off...good nite all!
 
Those stupid meat sales guys. I had one come to the door a couple months ago. My mom watched the situation unfold.

He got out of the truck and then saw lily approaching him and he ran back to his truck. Lily sat there and watched him. He then tried a second time and lily approached him again and he jumped back in his truck. He then tried a 3rd time and managed to sneak past her.

We didn't buy anything cause we raise and butcher our own steers.
 
This thread has been inactive since April, but I thought the title was fitting, so:

First, I want to thank Betty for her astuteness in her posts on this topic...ie
I like that people think Dobermans are mean.. keeps them out of my house and off my property!

The reason I'm pecking away about this is a rash of Crutch's apparent loss of popularity with certain neighbors. Just a little while ago, one of our "folks" just walked by and shouted "BAD DOG" over and over until she had walked completely around the corner, and past the length of my property. Note: This is one of four of these "folks" we have here in town. (Not to go off topic, but it seems we have about a 1/10,000 population ratio of them...we have in no perticular order, the dancing man, the southern baptist preacher, powerman 3000, and the purple lady). Crutch gave her no favoritism, so all he did was his usual perimeter march, complete with "live-action sounds". Apparently, she was offended. Meah...

Last week, the neighbor who lives directly across from me walked across the street, right into the yard, because she wanted to apologize to me. Apparently, sometime the day before, Crutch gave her 9 kinds of hell about something, and she yelled "shut up, you damn demon dog" and she must have felt bad about it in afterthought. Of course, being home here alone all day, I wasn't wearing my deaf-aids, so I never caught wind of this. I only learned of the whole ordeal from her apology. I wish I had of heard her initially, because I'm sure I could have peacefully quelled the situation, but alas...now she don't speak to us much (blessing in disguise??), but she looks over here with the stink-eye everyday now. What a shame. I strive for neighborly relations. I will sadly be 100% dependant on these neighbors should I have an "episode" while out with the big guy in the yard,..and I need help,.. and 1/2 of my neighbors fear and/or dislike him...and Ann is at work...oh boy! :eek::eek::eek: Life Alert, anyone??

On the flip side, it wasn't just too awful long ago that another neighbor came over to thank me for having a "dog like Crutch" because he believes the reason all the surrounding garages have been spared from all the robberies of recent is because of the mere presence of him, and of course his apparent Pavarotti-esqe voice.

So what do I do now? I suppose I could bake some cookies and take over to them, or perhaps I could try to find a blaze orange muzzle to put on him everytime I take him out so everyone can see it, or maybe just leave it alone, because nothing shy of getting rid of him would ever appease them (NOT going to happen)...

Maybe I'll just wind up being the crazy, TBI/brain-dead veteran with the bad demon dog... and join the ranks of the above described to help make the new ratio 2/10,000 here in Forgottonia. :bag:
 
Glad to hear that you got some credit for sparing your neighbors some robberies :) Does Crutch even know what "bad dog" means? I know Hans doesn't know the meaning of those words. The woman must have looked ridiculous doing that. I assume your yard is fenced and Crutch shouldn't really appear to be a threat to pedestrians or neighbors.
 
The woman must have looked ridiculous doing that.

Yes, Ma'am...its the purple lady. She lives alone, dresses herself in purple from head to toe, pushes an empty baby stroller around with her most times, has her face literally painted white (ala Al Jolsen), and carries on with loud conversations to someone? :eek:

I assume your yard is fenced and Crutch shouldn't really appear to be a threat to pedestrians or neighbors.

Indeed,..it's a Yardmax invisible fence that he won't cross for anything (yet), and its "The ever watchful eye of the Doberman" thread over here. The good people around here know him and know he's not a problem...sadly, the occasional new jogger suddenly becomes the occasional new sprinter :rolleyes:
 
Yes, Ma'am...its the purple lady. She lives alone, dresses herself in purple from head to toe, pushes an empty baby stroller around with her most times, has her face literally painted white (ala Al Jolsen), and carries on with loud conversations to someone?
You have some colorful neighbors :) I bet people would feel more comfortable about a real barrier fence, but as long as your dog is staying in your yard like he is, it's nobody's buisness
 
Purple lady eh? I have a crazy wild haired neighbour that is deathly afraid of dogs especially Kato. She is always complaining about him and reported us twice. She also tried to bring us to court by having people sign a petition, to no avail, everyone else around here has pets and refused to sign it. They think she's a witch anyways..lol she got my hubbys wrath but not mine yet, hehehe and she better never.. We are building a wall on her side cuz I don't even want to see her face... Oh well if I ever get really angry Kato knows what to do.. <evil grin> We keep to ourselves and just say hi to neighbours anyway, don't want to get too friendly, as we like our privacy but I wish you the best, let the purple lady live her fairy tale life, its all she has and we always need a few loons around to keep us laughing eh? Cuz its the best medicine;)
 
I'm not a fan of electric fences, but I'd use one if necessary. I have to move by next Spring and don't know where I'm going yet. I looked at a place today that is close to a road and thought that the lot looked like a place where an electric fence would work.
 
I'm not a fan of electric fences, but I'd use one if necessary. I have to move by next Spring and don't know where I'm going yet. I looked at a place today that is close to a road and thought that the lot looked like a place where an electric fence would work.
I'm just scared of them because they don't keep other things from coming in and hurting your dogs when they're behaving.
 
but as long as your dog is staying in your yard like he is, it's nobody's buisness
Ehh,have to disagree with this part.
Without that visual fence people don't know the dog is going to stop short of the property line.
Been there,with my at the time 9 year old little girl.It scared me and her,a 65-70 lb lab charging 60 feet across the yard barking and growling as we walked in the street.There was a moment I thought he was going to attack.
Now,take an older person with say heart issues...see where I'm going with this?
 
I'm just scared of them because they don't keep other things from coming in and hurting your dogs when they're behaving

Now,take an older person with say heart issues...see where I'm going with this?

You guys are wise!
I whole-heartedly agree with you both...I'll say that never ever even once has Crutch been outside without me...I'll even stand in the pouring rain with him if necessary. If I see an old person or a stroller, ect. coming at us from down either street, I either put him inside real quick, or, I have taught him to come and sit by my side (slightly leaning on me for balance) with the command "close". He'll hold that until released. Otherwise, I'll give him the "down" command...which he'll do from any point within the property.

He's really an awesome boy,..and until he thinks I'm threatened, even a pussycat. :rolleyes:
 
the occasional new jogger suddenly becomes the occasional new sprinter

Lol! We have this as well. Our entire yard is fenced but the front yard is only 3' tall and the front has a slight slope so when our two are sitting in the middle of the yard, the fence isn't even chest high on them. In my profile picture you can kinda see that they were already as tall as the fence and they were only maybe 5mths old in that pic. They could easily jump it if they want to. I've actually come outside to find one of the neighborhood dogs in my yard before and watched him clear the fence like it was a hurdle when he saw me and took off running. We have A LOT of college kids that live in our neighborhood so the start of every semester brings at least a few new faces. I've seen several people suddenly take up sprinting when gambit stands up from his sunbathing to bark at them once or twice as they run by, lol.

I do like that dobermans in general give people the idea that they need to stay away because, in addition to the college kids, we have quite a few questionables in our neighborhood. There are quite a few houses under surveillance for drug activity at any given time. But, we also live really close to the city limits and within walking distance of the University of SC football stadium that has thousands of people visiting it for the home football games. It always concerns me that our two could become an issue if anyone decides to report our dogs out of some crazy, unsubstantiated fear or if the cops that direct traffic on gameday notice them and decide they're a threat or if some parent comes to visit their kids and sees my "vicious" and "unsafe" dogs.
 
It always concerns me that our two could become an issue if anyone decides to report our dogs out of some crazy, unsubstantiated fear

Yes Ma'am...probably many of us here have had that thought a time or two. I unfortunately live in town. I had to have a quick response time to get into a suit and be at the parlor is the reason why. Now (ahem) retired, I could move out of town a bit, but I'd have to look for a 1 BR, because 36 years ago, this country boy married a city girl, and she ain't leaving town!
 
I'll say that never ever even once has Crutch been outside without me...I'll even stand in the pouring rain with him if necessary.
Same here! I just believe in going out with the dogs whenever they go out so they aren't out there unsupervised and so I can spend quality time with them. I seriously doubt they'd even want to be out if one of us weren't with them at all times.
 
I seriously doubt they'd even want to be out if one of us weren't with them at all times.
I have to agree there, if Kato goes out to P or Poo, he comes right back inside, he will not stay alone outside for more than he has to. But if either Tony and I are with him ..he would stay all night laying by our side. He is a velcro all the way... At first we thought he was a wuss..hahaha not a chance.. Anyhow our yard is soon to be surrounded by a 6 foot fence, only have one side to do..the side the lady in heat is on...whew that was a hard time hahaha so naturally we can't wait.. hmmmmmmmm wonder if our wonder dog will stay out a little longer alone then..nahhhh don't think so.. ok time for a friend...still thinking on that one..<smiles>;)
 

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