Blue Buffalo admits to BSing consumers

[FredC]

What would we do without clever ad campaigns to brain wash us all into believing that super premium foods are so vastly superior? Frankly ive seen no concrete statistics that prove our super premium appetite is resulting in longer healthier lives that im aware of, and to date ive never had a single vet recommend premium food over store brands. as a matter of fact every vet ive ever talked to on the subject says the same thing "Super Premium is more or less a scam) There is also proof some straight up lie about whats in their kibble.. making some of the super premium food some feed no better or worse then Purina Pro plan or other similier foods except that they are listing the ingredients and not trying to pull a Johnathon Gruber on all of us.. I dont fault anyone for feeding what they feed.. Heck i fed lots of varieties over the years and have really yet to find a kibble im 100% sold on.. Having multiple Dobermans at a time has showed me that no matter how hard i try its very difficult to find a single brand they all excel on..

 

[Clydes]

Sad, sad, sad. I have some of bob training snacks somewhere. But truth in advertising is a lie all together. Look at restaurant adds! Who has gone to a fast food joint and gotten something that looks anything like what you see on the television???
Really shouldn't these companies be made an example of? Whatever slap on the wrist they get wont hurt enough to keep them from doing it again and again and again!

 

[Dobs4ever]

Who has gone to a fast food joint and gotten something that looks anything like what you see on the television???

Same with the frozen boxed food for humans. The package picture looks amazing and like a full plate - then you get a small container half full of food.

 

[Gelcoater]

Here's an interesting quote from the op.

An eerily familiar story involving Blue Buffalo emerged back in 2007, when Purina and many other major brands recalled tons of dog and cat food after the FDA found it was contaminated with melamine, an industrial chemical traced to Chinese suppliers. However, Blue Buffalo arrogantly ran advertisements bragging that its products didn’t contain the chemical. Unfortunately, it turned out not to be correct, and Blue Buffalo eventually had to pull a third of its product line. At the time, Blue Buffalo said it had been “deliberately deceived” by one of its contract manufacturers. Sound familiar

I also want to point out the title of the article...
Blue Buffalo admits to bullshitting consumers, lawsuit with Purina heats up.

[DOUBLEPOST=1437960206,1437959627][/DOUBLEPOST]Who writes an article with a title like this with any real expectation of being taken 100% seriously?

How do we know BB wasn't decieved by its supplier?Who is the supplier?Who owns it?Who are they aligned with.

I bet Purina didn't know it's meat was contaminated by melamine,yet it was included in their food,and recalled.

"Blue Buffalo "arrogantly" ran advertisements bragging its product didn't contain the chemical"...drama.The author is leading you.
They didn't know,Purina didn't know until pointed out by the FDA.
What I see.----->Purina starting a smear campaign on one hand,buying Merrick with the other.Buy the competition or burn them out to create the monopoly.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out the meat supplier for BB is somehow in bed with Purina.

 

[Dobs4ever]

In 2007 no one knew China was ADDING melamine to their rice. That is the danger in buying foreign IMHO. They do not have the same standards as we do. That rice went to all the dog manufactures who bought rice from China no just purina. I remember when Diamond had the problem with corn one year and had to recall a bunch of dog food. I am pretty sure they all started checking what came in from suppliers.

Had Purina not gone to the point of running their own investigation no telling how long BB would have gotten away with this false advertising. I know that when a company puts in an order they are specific about what they want in their formula and BB thought they could skate without anyone finding out.

 

[FredC]

Im getting the feeling Gel isnt a fan of Purina and their lawsuit..

 

[GennyB]

Im getting the feeling Gel isnt a fan of Purina and their lawsuit..

I agree! When I read his last post I thought I was reading in the conspiracy theory thread.

 

[Dobs4ever]

Well I don't think you can overlook that Purina won the lawsuit - BB advertised NO by-products and in fact a lab study proved that their food contained by products. That is pretty cut and dry if you ask me.

 

[Gelcoater]

Well I don't think you can overlook that Purina won the lawsuit - BB advertised NO by-products and in fact a lab study proved that their food contained by products. That is pretty cut and dry if you ask me.

It isn't cut and dry.No question Purina won.
The question remains,because I am also involved in mfg,where you count on your suppliers to provide the quality you expect.
When they let you down with inferior product you are screwed.
We have in the past received bad resin and built with it not knowing.Boat comes back with issues,we have to replace.Is it our fault the boat was built with poor product?Did we knowingly build poor quality?
No,but there it is.
This same type of scenario is possible with BB,that's all I'm saying.

I agree! When I read his last post I thought I was reading in the conspiracy theory thread.

Why?
Becuase I question motives?
It's no theory here,they are gaining a monopoly.


@Clydes disagrees with my post.Care to elaborate?
Disagree with pointing out a respectable author doesn't title articles with profanity?
That Purina is forming a monopoly?
That its possible BB wasn't aware of the byproduct?
Just curious

 

[GennyB]

Why?
Becuase I question motives?
It's no theory here,they are gaining a monopoly.

Just my attempt at being funny. Always question motives.

 

[JanS]

That Purina is forming a monopoly?

I do think they're working on it so I'm hoping some of the reputable independent companies hold their ground and don't sell out to them.

I've had a quite a few offers for "big bucks" to sell this board to some of the big internet monopolies, but we will always remain independent without all of the bull that goes with those big ones. They don't like to take no for an answer either.

 

[FredC]

They are light years away from a monopoly.. and even if they were a monopoly what would we all do? buy birds? lol...

I personally like pro plan products and only moved away from it to Canidae because i thought it might have been causing allergy issues with Mars, Turns out food was very low on the likely causes list..

I am curious what some of us older folks fed back in the 70's.. i recall feeding Chuck Wagon back in the day.. I even remember the commercials with dogs chasing some cartoon stage coach around the kitchen..

and cmon who can deny Lorne Greene?

The simplicity of a 20th century man.. Things sure were less complicated back then and i for one miss those days..

 

[Clydes]

@Clydes disagrees with my post.Care to elaborate?
Disagree with pointing out a respectable author doesn't title articles with profanity?
That Purina is forming a monopoly?
That its possible BB wasn't aware of the byproduct?
Just curious

I agree a respectable author doesn't use such language, especially in a title.
Purina? Don't know enough about it to agree or disagree. Maybe?
BB wasn't aware of the byproduct. Totally disagree.

When you put yourself out there and make claims about your product then it is your responsibility to make sure the product lives up to your claims.
I.E. if you claim your product is organic, pesticide, additive free, then you better know your suppliers and their practices. You also do testing to make sure your product is what you claim it is. I disagree because I believe Blue Buffalo (someone there anyway) looked at their price margin and profits and said, hey can we make more money by getting our ingredients cheaper. What are the chances anyone will find out? How much do we stand to lose if we go this route and get caught?

Where is their product control? They don't run the same tests on their product Purina had done?

If they didn't know then they were negligent to start with.

 

[JanS]

I am curious what some of us older folks fed back in the 70's.. i recall feeding Chuck Wagon back in the day.. I even remember the commercials with dogs chasing some cartoon stage coach around the kitchen..

LOL, I remember the stage coach comercials back then too, and a whole bunch more.

My mom fed Tuffy's so I think I stuck with it when I was first on my own. When we got our GSP the vet recommended Science Diet so we put him on that, which turned out to be a big mistake with all of his allergies.

 

[FredC]

When we got our GSP the vet recommended Science Diet so we put him on that, which turned out to be a big mistake with all of his allergies.

I was just referred to Science Diet by Mars' vet recently to.. We haven't switched nor do we intend to . I just smiled.. I doubt she knows how much research we put into his kibble and it always strikes me as odd when someone recommends something without even knowing what your currently on.. I have a strong suspicion Canidae is a far better option for Mars then the vets recommendation.. She probably just ASSumes we feed store brand and really thinks SD would be an improvement.. lol

 

[Dobs4ever]

Clydes - I tend to agree with you. It is so easy to say I don't remember or I forgot. Both are hard to nail down. Many people do not understand that the dog food companies all used one or two different manufactures who make the food for them per their recommendations or formula. They could not afford to get caught knowingly selling an incorrect formula.

Food that can cause death if far more serious than a resin problem.

I am pretty sure I fed Purina One as that is what my dad usually fed at lease as far as I can remember.

 

[Gelcoater]

Food that can cause death if far more serious than a resin problem.

I think you missed the point I was trying to convey.

 

[LynnNM]

I'm so glad that I read this thread, as I was going to buy a bag of Blue Buffalo tomorrow. My Knight and his little "sister", our Tibetan Spaniel Sasha have been eating the Victor dry kibble, which get's top ratings. But, my Sasha doesn't like it. Just this afternoon, a good friend recommended Blue Buffalo, which her dog eats, and dropped off a small portion for the dogs to try. (Sigh!) Victor has gone up to $60 for a 30-pound bag. I need a good quality dry kibble from companies I can trust!

 

[JanS]

I need a good quality dry kibble from companies I can trust!

I don't think you can go wrong with Orijen, but it is a bit pricey too. Many of us feed Taste of the Wild with great results and it's only about $45 for a 30# bag, so not bad at all for a highly rated food.

 

[sgourle]

My boys love Orijen, and my older guy eats 3/4-1 C less per day than he would on Canidae or TOTW, so even though it costs a bit more, it really doesn't turn out to be that much since he east so much less (his meals are only 3/4 C now, so that's a whole extra meal everyday!).


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