My Doberman puppy mess...

[Allison Dry]

Hey y'all!
So as some of you know I was supposed to get a puppy last Saturday, Bear. Well, I am gonna back this up to the beginning. We live in TN, I am from Houston TX and Daniels from El Dorado AR. We finally agreed on a breed we both liked and wanted, that being a doberman. We searched and searched for what felt like FOREVER. Finally, we found a couple on Craigslist (I know, I know scold me for using it but I got my registered American Bulldog from Craigslist so whatever). I contacted them and they quickly got back in touch. I immediately was like the FBI and background checked them and got the most info I could- everything was perfect and true. We had a contract and everything typed. Things were going beautifully. We had planned for his ears to get cropped the week before we picked him up. Their baby got sick so it had to be rescheduled for later that week; it's fine, stuff happens. Well they end up not getting the ears done and don't tell me until the day we are scheduled to meet. So now we're mad. Daniel will not have a doberman without the ears cropped, personal preference. Plus, no one in our town does ear cropping. (y'all know how that is, people are against it blah blah, it's all an ethical thing so yeah). Moving forward, they said they could get the ears done that week and of course it fell thru. I finally found someone that will do it here in TN that is not too far. It took a longggg time. At this point we are willing to do whatever we just want the pup. So I just tell them forget it we will take care of it. No hard feelings. That was at the beginning of the week, we are meeting Saturday to get him. The excitement is literally brewing inside of us! THEN SHE CALLS ME FRIDAY MORNING- so I answer all giddy and excited for her to respond crying, informing me that she accidentally ran over our puppy and he's dead.
I calmly say accidents happen, she is returning our deposit, end of story.
1-The way we are looking at it is that puppy just wasn't meant for us.
2- I will not be looking for a doberman from anyone other than a breeder with a website
3- I found a LEGIT breeder, she has her pups 1st of December and we're on the list.

 

[Rits]

Oh no how devistating! I agree that you can find much better breeder, one that does health testing at the least and maybe does something with their dogs. This will produce a healthy and well rounded pup for you! Plus, reputable breeders take care of the cropping for you. Less stress for the owner and puppy. Now you have another reason to look forward to Christmas time

 

[LifeofRubie]

RAN OVER HIM!? Do you think she actually really had puppies? Or sold him to someone who didn't care about ear cropping in lieu of working with you guys?

Glad you found a legit breeder! Best ways to tell: the contract will state you have to return the dog, at any time for any reason, if you cannot keep him; they will recommend waiting until he's a certain age to neuter (if you choose to neuter at all); parents are health tested out the wazoo; they will tell you reach out to them with ANY questions. Our breeders have been wonderful resources for us and I'm so grateful we have them!

 

[Allison Dry]

Oh no how devistating! I agree that you can find much better breeder, one that does health testing at the least and maybe does something with their dogs. This will produce a healthy and well rounded pup for you! Plus, reputable breeders take care of the cropping for you. Less stress for the owner and puppy. Now you have another reason to look forward to Christmas time

Yes, is was! You are right, we will be going to pick him out right around Christmas

 

[Allison Dry]

RAN OVER HIM!? Do you think she actually really had puppies? Or sold him to someone who didn't care about ear cropping in lieu of working with you guys?

Glad you found a legit breeder! Best ways to tell: the contract will state you have to return the dog, at any time for any reason, if you cannot keep him; they will recommend waiting until he's a certain age to neuter (if you choose to neuter at all); parents are health tested out the wazoo; they will tell you reach out to them with ANY questions. Our breeders have been wonderful resources for us and I'm so grateful we have them!

YES RAN HIM OVER! I was in shock... I have been around puppies my whole life- never ran one over. Honestly, I thought about all the possibilities. We video chatted so I know she really had pups. I also saw people on Fb that had already picked them up. I do not think she faked it, she offered to give me the other male pup they had (someone backed out on them due to not having the money). That pup wasn't what we wanted plus I was kind of done dealing with them. Oh well, everything happens for a reason. I have the paper work coming to me in the mail on our new pup. Much more organized and professional.

 

[LifeofRubie]

YES RAN HIM OVER! I was in shock... I have been around puppies my whole life- never ran one over. Honestly, I thought about all the possibilities. We video chatted so I know she really had pups. I also saw people on Fb that had already picked them up. I do not think she faked it, she offered to give me the other male pup they had (someone backed out on them due to not having the money). That pup wasn't what we wanted plus I was kind of done dealing with them. Oh well, everything happens for a reason. I have the paper work coming to me in the mail on our new pup. Much more organized and professional.

I can't even fathom!!!

And good. Is your bulldog a male or female?

 

[NikiL02]

Omg ran over... poor thing. Oh how sad.
Im glad you've found a new breeder, but so much in this makes me sad.

 

[Allison Dry]

I can't even fathom!!!

And good. Is your bulldog a male or female?

I know right!!
Bulldog is a female, I have had her since she was 5 weeks old. She is 5 1/2 now. We got her spayed this year. She is an amazing dog! Bulldog is her name...lol. My dad got her for us as a family dog. He has always wanted one and just liked to call her Bulldog so it stuck! My dad died that next year so I got her.

 

[Allison Dry]

Omg ran over... poor thing. Oh how sad.
Im glad you've found a new breeder, but so much in this makes me sad.

Yep! It is sad, for the puppy, us, and them!!

 

[Ddski5]

Sad situation that happen for sure, but you are much better off....

Sounds like you learned from your mistakes and have readjusted your focus/search. Good for you.

With a Doberman, money spent up front to reputable breeders is a hell of a lot better than money spent later at vet because of bad breeders.

 

[Tropicalbri's]

My only question, being the proverbial skeptic because of being burnt many times is have you received your money back yet?

Just too many red flags waving in the wind that makes me suspicious.

Glad you found a reliable breeder!

 

[Oh Little Oji]

YES RAN HIM OVER! I was in shock... I have been around puppies my whole life- never ran one over. Honestly, I thought about all the possibilities. We video chatted so I know she really had pups. I also saw people on Fb that had already picked them up. I do not think she faked it, she offered to give me the other male pup they had (someone backed out on them due to not having the money). That pup wasn't what we wanted plus I was kind of done dealing with them. Oh well, everything happens for a reason. I have the paper work coming to me in the mail on our new pup. Much more organized and professional.

She ought to have to re-test to keep her driver license and her breeder license. Oh, wait...

 

[Tropicalbri's]

She ought to have to re-test to keep her driver license and her breeder license. Oh, wait...

Why would any sane person allow puppies that young to be in an open area unsupervised? I could see them being in a back yard romping and playing while closely supervised but to run over a puppy?!? Is their property a junk yard?
I am having serious doubts about this supposed breeder’s story. Something just doesn’t mesh for me with this story!

 

[Oh Little Oji]

Why would any sane person allow puppies that young to be in an open area unsupervised? I could see them being in a back yard romping and playing while closely supervised but to run over a puppy?!? Is their property a junk yard?
I am having serious doubts about this supposed breeder’s story. Something just doesn’t mesh for me with this story!

In this day and age of the interwebs, I wonder if someone could search for the words run and over and puppy and see what they find.

At any rate, I'm so glad a source for Bulldog's brother has been found and Allison Dry has moved on from the experience.

 

[Allison Dry]

My only question, being the proverbial skeptic because of being burnt many times is have you received your money back yet?

Just too many red flags waving in the wind that makes me suspicious.

Glad you found a reliable breeder!

Yes I did!! She got it sent back Monday.

 

[Allison Dry]

Why would any sane person allow puppies that young to be in an open area unsupervised? I could see them being in a back yard romping and playing while closely supervised but to run over a puppy?!? Is their property a junk yard?
I am having serious doubts about this supposed breeder’s story. Something just doesn’t mesh for me with this story!

I’m just telling you what she told me. Coming from the person that gave money, I don’t think she was lying honestly. The pups were 9 weeks old so it’s not like they can barely move.

 

[Allison Dry]

In this day and age of the interwebs, I wonder if someone could search for the words run and over and puppy and see what they find.

At any rate, I'm so glad a source for Bulldog's brother has been found and Allison Dry has moved on from the experience.

Exactly! We are excited and like I said, this Breeder is legit and so well organized! I don’t know how happy bulldog will be taken she won’t be the center of attention anymore lol. She has always gotten along with other animals so I’m sure she’ll be fine. Plus, for 5 1/2 she’s playful and full of energy. I have pics of the parents, they are beautiful!

 

[Allison Dry]

I’m just telling you what she told me. Coming from the person that gave money, I don’t think she was lying honestly. The pups were 9 weeks old so it’s not like they can barely move.

Why would any sane person allow puppies that young to be in an open area unsupervised? I could see them being in a back yard romping and playing while closely supervised but to run over a puppy?!? Is their property a junk yard?
I am having serious doubts about this supposed breeder’s story. Something just doesn’t mesh for me with this story!

im just trying to look at the more positive side. Who knows, they could’ve been tired of dealing with us and made it all up. Either way it’s over and done with. Lesson learned!

 

[JanS]

How horrible and I agree that I'd never let pups out unsupervised; especially if someone is going to have a moving car out there. They're just babies and don't have a clue what the car is so it's up to the driver to make sure they're secured before putting that car in gear.

I'm glad you found a different one from a better breeder and now the countdown can begin again.