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What do you feed?

only 4? ohi thought they were a 5...been a while since i looked at it. the price and the fact that my smaller ig didnt like it... (BRAT) made me switch. but i am happy with natures recipe... like i have said...for some reason my boys havent had seizures, so its a extra plus
 
I've been using Nature's Recipe (venison) for about 1.5 years. Our Doberman and Golden mix both love the stuff. Even during their weeks of laziness they don't seem to pack on any fat. So far seems to be a pretty good product.

-Ben-
 
ok so I finally got a chance to go through this again. And hdr2gt I was actually going to ask about the new Canidae grain free formula that has come out for Penny. Because my feedstore can't get the EVO Reduced Fat. ANd I am happy to hear the the food switch has been helpful to you IG boys.

You all are correct about Canidae and TOTW and Chicken SOup all being made in the Diamond Factories now. Like I said I will stick with Diamond, my dogs love it and I'm ok with that. lol.

There are a couple more but am not sure who they are that are made in the Diamond factories. They have straightened up there act especially since that last major food recall a couple of years ago. But I understand everyone's hesitation.
 
I think that is what I am going to go with since its readily available to me at PetsMart....The regular BB is rated as a 4 star and they even have Blue Wilderness that is rated as a 6 star. If I'm not mistaken they both were around the same price range...yea its kindy pricey.
That sounds like a great choice! It is a little pricey, but well worth it, especially when you have pups, and many of the higher end kibble has more bang for its buck, which means you don't have to feed as much, so the cost sort of balances out. :)
 
Since Cinnia came to live with us she has been on a Raw diet with Taste of the Wild roasted bison and venison dry. She also gets Evangers canned duck, rabbit, bison, venison and rabbit. She eats twice a day since she is a growing baby. For a snack she gets organic pumpkin with a smidge of real whipped cream and or cottage cheese. Yes, my baby is spoiled. Is she overweight nope! She is 52 pound of solid muscle.
 
I've been using Nature's Recipe (venison) for about 1.5 years. Our Doberman and Golden mix both love the stuff. Even during their weeks of laziness they don't seem to pack on any fat. So far seems to be a pretty good product.

-Ben-

I saw that at PetsMart too.
 
Has anyone heard of problems with bloat with the dried beet pulp in the dog foods? I have heard that Purina Pro and several of the foods mentioned on here contain it. Fila's bloat really easy - so, everyone is really cautious about what they feed and a lot feed BARF - or a raw diet. There are some that feed a mixture of good quality kibble along with raw or partially cooked. This is a huge discussion on the Fila boards.

Anyone feeding the wellness - have you seen the video about the fish bones in the food?

What is disturbing to me is the guy opens the bag and this stuff is right on top - the hair, the fish bones - all of it. Makes me wonder what has settled to the bottom?

I have read and re-read the Canidae ingredients and can honestly not find anything to not agree with as far as ingredients.

Current ingredients - Protein is now 24% which is perfect for dogs - it was 34% - way to high for a normal house dog. Comes in Breeder bags of 44 pounds.

CANIDAE All Natural Ingredients
Chicken meal, turkey meal, lamb meal, brown rice, white rice, rice bran, peas, potatoes, oatmeal, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), millet, tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed meal, ocean fish meal, choline chloride, sun cured alfalfa meal, inulin (from chicory root), lecithin, sage extract, cranberries, beta carotene, rosemary extract, sunflower oil, yucca schidigera extract, dried enterococcus faecium, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract, saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid, cobalt proteinate, organic selenium, papaya, pineapple.

I made the switch to Platinum recently as well - with no problems.

Chicken meal, brown rice, white rice, rice bran, peas, potatoes, oatmeal, cracked pearled barley, millet, turkey meal, lamb meal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed meal, ocean fish meal, choline chloride, glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin sulfate, psyllium husks, sun cured alfalfa meal, inulin (from chicory root), lecithin, sage extract, cranberries, beta carotene, rosemary extract, sunflower oil, yucca schidigera extract, dried enterococcus faecium, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract, saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid, cobalt proteinate, organic selenium, papaya, pineapple.


Here is the ingredients of Purina Pro Lamb and Rice:

Lamb, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, whole grain wheat, chicken meal (natural source of glucosamine), oat meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soy flour, pearled barley, fish meal (natural source of glucosamine), soybean meal, dried beet pulp, animal digest, dried egg product, glycerin, salt, calcium carbonate, calcium phosphate, potassium chloride, Vitamin E supplement, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, sulfur, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), zinc proteinate, manganese sulfate, niacin, manganese proteinate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, copper proteinate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite. K-4470
 
The beet pulp is basicly what's left over after they process all the beet sugar out of it,they'd probably throw it away otherwise and I'd be curious to know what if anything dog food companies are paying for it.I was feeding Canadae and was very happy,like you I think the ingrediant list is very impressive,but I noticed a change in the color of the kibble when the bags whent to 35lbs. and our dobe Shiloh began having very loose poop and horrible farting.I didn't even know there had been a formula change till I started checking online because of the change in our dog! It must be more a manufactoring change or lowered quality of ingredients than the actual type of ingredients.I just know it only took a week or so for her problems to disappear after changing to chicken soup for the dog lovers soul lg breed.We went thru 2 bags of the new Canadae without her getting any better and altho the new food is also made by diamond it also has very good ingredients and agrees with her.It's very confusing,I just try to avoid corn,wheat,beet pulp and look for the most fruit/veg. and quality meat ingredients
 
Has anyone heard of problems with bloat with the dried beet pulp in the dog foods? I have heard that Purina Pro and several of the foods mentioned on here contain it. Fila's bloat really easy - so, everyone is really cautious about what they feed and a lot feed BARF - or a raw diet. There are some that feed a mixture of good quality kibble along with raw or partially cooked. This is a huge discussion on the Fila boards.

Anyone feeding the wellness - have you seen the video about the fish bones in the food?

What is disturbing to me is the guy opens the bag and this stuff is right on top - the hair, the fish bones - all of it. Makes me wonder what has settled to the bottom?

I have read and re-read the Canidae ingredients and can honestly not find anything to not agree with as far as ingredients.

Current ingredients - Protein is now 24% which is perfect for dogs - it was 34% - way to high for a normal house dog. Comes in Breeder bags of 44 pounds.

CANIDAE All Natural Ingredients
Chicken meal, turkey meal, lamb meal, brown rice, white rice, rice bran, peas, potatoes, oatmeal, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), millet, tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed meal, ocean fish meal, choline chloride, sun cured alfalfa meal, inulin (from chicory root), lecithin, sage extract, cranberries, beta carotene, rosemary extract, sunflower oil, yucca schidigera extract, dried enterococcus faecium, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract, saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid, cobalt proteinate, organic selenium, papaya, pineapple.

I made the switch to Platinum recently as well - with no problems.

Chicken meal, brown rice, white rice, rice bran, peas, potatoes, oatmeal, cracked pearled barley, millet, turkey meal, lamb meal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed meal, ocean fish meal, choline chloride, glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin sulfate, psyllium husks, sun cured alfalfa meal, inulin (from chicory root), lecithin, sage extract, cranberries, beta carotene, rosemary extract, sunflower oil, yucca schidigera extract, dried enterococcus faecium, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis fermentation extract, saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid, cobalt proteinate, organic selenium, papaya, pineapple.


Here is the ingredients of Purina Pro Lamb and Rice:

Lamb, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, whole grain wheat, chicken meal (natural source of glucosamine), oat meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soy flour, pearled barley, fish meal (natural source of glucosamine), soybean meal, dried beet pulp, animal digest, dried egg product, glycerin, salt, calcium carbonate, calcium phosphate, potassium chloride, Vitamin E supplement, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, sulfur, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), zinc proteinate, manganese sulfate, niacin, manganese proteinate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, copper proteinate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite. K-4470


What is animal digest? I noticed it in Nature's Recipe ingredient listing as well.
 
Wow I agree, the fish bone one is crazy...

What is animal digest? I noticed it in Nature's Recipe ingredient listing as well.
Since it's such a loose term, I had to check it out too.

Here's one quote I found:

Animal Digest
AAFCO: A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed. If it bears a name descriptive of its kind or flavor(s), it must correspond thereto.
A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on.
Yuck....


I also came across this list of ingredients to avoid in food.
The Dog Food Project
 
What is animal digest? I noticed it in Nature's Recipe ingredient listing as well.

I have no idea! Does anyone know what that is??

Now a friend of mine in Texas - fantastic trainer by the way - has owned Dobies and has a rescue operation and raises Fila's as well - swears by the Chicken Soup (??) I admire this man's opinion and he says during the recall that Diamond only had canned foods involved? Anyway, he swears by Diamond foods.

A long time ago when Diamond had meat for the first ingredient I fed Diamond for years - then they removed the meat and added corn so I dropped feeding it.

I FREAKED when I watched that video of the Wellness Food - like I said, that was in the top of the bag??
 
A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source,

Again, one of the Fila boards said that this was dead cats and dogs.... animals that were put down at the shelters... or that it could be. There are no regulations against it....

I "don't" know - but yeeeekkkk...
 
A cooked-down broth made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, misc. roadkill, animals euthanized at shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on.




That is just wrong......I can't believe I have fed food that has that crap in it to my dogs.
 
I just cant picture any company going out to get road kill to put in dog food or anything else really. Now sausage... i can see that... lol
 
Was Canidae, until the change.
Then went to Nature's Variety mix of wet and other times dry, usually venison. Throw a little raw Nature's Variety in at times.
Tried Evo, didn't seem to like it. Would give a try again. Can't get Orijen.
-Don't use Nutro.

so far this has worked great;
http://www.naturesvariety.com/
 

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