Would your Doberman willingly go with a stranger?
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Regalis
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Good Bogie, protecting his mama. Guess Mama's boys do have their perks, eh?
And it's nice to see your name on here again
Kaiser2016
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What a funny thread that was! Reading the various accounts, it does seem like they scare easy when they see something versus the bold (and usually needless) reactions to sounds they haven't heard before.
Doberman Gang
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Yea, and I was the one he was coming forNow I realize why you have often referred to your dogs as crazythat pic of Blaze and his intense focus is still impressive, but now it's also scary!
This may be long but interesting, at least to me.
Yesterday we (hubby, my 2 sons and myself) went to an event called Q in the Lou. We were hesitant to go because of some protesting going on due to a verdict in a police shooting. Did some checking and security was pretty tight so we decided to go and take the dogs.
I recently had some surgery which brought on a MS flare so I can't walk. It was an absolutely beautiful day and I needed to get out of the house. So pack up the wheelchair and off we go.
Now for the part that pertains to this thread. Entering the 'Q' there were a lot of protestors. Not the BLM protestors, but PETA and some vegetarian groups. They were pretty loud and boisterous with their chants. Of course the meat eaters where spouting off. It didn't get too out of hand just a lot of shouting and scuffles here and there. The interesting part was Drake's reaction. He instantly had to be at my side, pulling my son to get there. The youngster, Rumor just followed his lead. I had to take the leads from my kids.
Because my son is a trained chef, he had connections to get us VIP tickets. So we sat in a private area with all you can eat and drink passes as well as meeting all the world champion pit masters. My boys wanted to go walk around and check out vendors and the band. They thought they would take the dogs so they could stretch their legs a bit. Drake was NOT leaving. He sat right at my side. So I guess if the circumstances are right my dogs won't even go with someone they know. It was pretty interesting to witness because he was calm and receptive to the people that approached us and wanted to comment on how beautiful they were, yet watchful at the same time.
I can tell you if you need to part a crowd, just let 2 dobermans pull your wheelchair.
Yesterday we (hubby, my 2 sons and myself) went to an event called Q in the Lou. We were hesitant to go because of some protesting going on due to a verdict in a police shooting. Did some checking and security was pretty tight so we decided to go and take the dogs.
I recently had some surgery which brought on a MS flare so I can't walk. It was an absolutely beautiful day and I needed to get out of the house. So pack up the wheelchair and off we go.
Now for the part that pertains to this thread. Entering the 'Q' there were a lot of protestors. Not the BLM protestors, but PETA and some vegetarian groups. They were pretty loud and boisterous with their chants. Of course the meat eaters where spouting off. It didn't get too out of hand just a lot of shouting and scuffles here and there. The interesting part was Drake's reaction. He instantly had to be at my side, pulling my son to get there. The youngster, Rumor just followed his lead. I had to take the leads from my kids.
Because my son is a trained chef, he had connections to get us VIP tickets. So we sat in a private area with all you can eat and drink passes as well as meeting all the world champion pit masters. My boys wanted to go walk around and check out vendors and the band. They thought they would take the dogs so they could stretch their legs a bit. Drake was NOT leaving. He sat right at my side. So I guess if the circumstances are right my dogs won't even go with someone they know. It was pretty interesting to witness because he was calm and receptive to the people that approached us and wanted to comment on how beautiful they were, yet watchful at the same time.
I can tell you if you need to part a crowd, just let 2 dobermans pull your wheelchair.
Kaiser2016
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What an awesome story @GennyB ! So many twists and turns had me wondering whether there was going to be some sort of protest related interaction...especially with PETA types around. Glad to hear everyone was able to come and go safely. Drake really stepped up. What a star!
And total "lol" moment with your parting the crowd comment. Too bad Moses didnt have Dobermans!
And total "lol" moment with your parting the crowd comment. Too bad Moses didnt have Dobermans!
Evowolf
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I know my boy who is 5 months would not go with a stranger. If were out on a walk and I hand the leash off to my husband so I can tie my shoe and my husband keeps walk, king will bark and cry and pull to get back to me. Even when my husband correct him and makes hime sit he will still whine very loud. Its especially embarrassing when were at the vet and the tech needs to take him to the back.SMH but I often wonder if this will change the older he gets and it does worry me because he is to friendly my husband says I need to stop letting everyone pet him.
Drogon
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I wonder if this 'going with a stranger' scenario would make the case for the 'long down' that we train for in IPO. So instead of tethering your dog with their lead you put them in a down/platz. If the dog is well enough trained he/she would remain there until you return. It would make it much more difficult for someone to steal your dog. There's no lead for them to take hold of and walk off. They'd have to grab the collar.
What an awesome story @GennyB ! So many twists and turns had me wondering whether there was going to be some sort of protest related interaction...especially with PETA types around. Glad to hear everyone was able to come and go safely. Drake really stepped up. What a star!
And total "lol" moment with your parting the crowd comment. Too bad Moses didnt have Dobermans!
When I saw the PETA people I think I got nervous. I'm not really a conflict person. I generally take the approach to just let it go. Everyone has a right to believe what they want. Not a fight to the finish kind of girl. Although there is my family including my dogs that will change that. I'm all about momma bear syndrome.
I was impressed with how fast Drake picked up on my uneasiness. He was right there in a second letting everyone know there won't be any BS. I have learned to trust him completely. If he doesn't like you I won't either.
As far as parting the crowd, I heard a lot of whoa's and gasps. People taking pictures and video after stopping dead in their tracks. I felt pretty safe having people take a step back.
I hear there is a rash of dogs being stolen. I've seen a warming out of the U.K., and I heard "Lady Gaga's" dogs were stolen, and I saw links to two local news stories about houses broken into and dogs stolen (one Pit puppy, and one Frenchie).
How do we, short of actual training in this area (which very few of us do), make our Dobes not stealable (or our "fine silver" not stealable)? We socialize them, because that's the accepted right thing to do, but this usually means they think all humans are friendly. Most of our Dobes will put on a ferocious defensive display at someone approaching the house, but they know nothing but humans being harmless and friendly once they actually come within range.
How do we, short of actual training in this area (which very few of us do), make our Dobes not stealable (or our "fine silver" not stealable)? We socialize them, because that's the accepted right thing to do, but this usually means they think all humans are friendly. Most of our Dobes will put on a ferocious defensive display at someone approaching the house, but they know nothing but humans being harmless and friendly once they actually come within range.
jazzies mum
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I have some experience with people coming within range when Jazz is loose around home. She sets up her big bark and big stance, but if they come closer and I come to see what is happening she is skittish and will dart in to get a scent but will not allow a hand on her. If I have her on leash with me she will be open and happy to interact with most people.
Not so sure about if she was hitched to something while I was in a store but I think this may have happened when I was holidaying and went into a butchers shop. Later that same day I ran into a man who had seen Jazz outside that shop and he must have had some interaction with her because she Did. Not. Like. Him! She was very wary and kept as far from him as possible. Totally unlike herself. Hmmmmmmmmm
Not so sure about if she was hitched to something while I was in a store but I think this may have happened when I was holidaying and went into a butchers shop. Later that same day I ran into a man who had seen Jazz outside that shop and he must have had some interaction with her because she Did. Not. Like. Him! She was very wary and kept as far from him as possible. Totally unlike herself. Hmmmmmmmmm
Both of our girls have no desire to be friendly to strangers unless we request them to be friendly. They will tolerate a stranger petting them only after we tell them to "sit and be nice". I trained them to not approach anyone, and they only look at and then ignore, but stay watchful, of people they don't know. When someone remarks that they don't seem very friendly, I reply that they are not Goldens, they are Dobermans and are not bred to be "Golden type" dogs. They won't even take a treat from the Vet, whom they like, or from the neighbors whom they also like. I have been told I should train them to be more willing to be more approachable, but if I wanted that I would have selected a different breed! I would not advise strangers to come near the Sinisters when they are in the yard or house when we are not around!
Love it! I need you to train me how to accomplish this, especially the no treats from strangers part!
Well Wisconsin is about to face another cold, snowy, icy winter. You and the wife and the kiddos and Oji could come visit for winter fun. Then again maybe hubby and I and the Sinisters should come visit you! Either way training would commence!
Poifect! See, the main problem has been I've never had anyone willing to be the helper/stranger. Years ago with my first Dobe, I asked my sister's friend to help me. My plan was to leash Dobe to a tree and have her walk by and offer him a treat. If he went to take it, she was to throw a cup of water in his face and move on.Well Wisconsin is about to face another cold, snowy, icy winter. You and the wife and the kiddos and Oji could come visit for winter fun. Then again maybe hubby and I and the Sinisters should come visit you! Either way training would commence!
Yeah, Cincinnati winters are not as harsh as WI, but still have their harsh times.
