Ok, guys lets all step back and take a breath, I think we need to understand that this is a forum and we are supposed to be discussing a subject and not debating or arguing a side of it. Denissov, I am sure you did not mean to create the sense of superiority that was perceived in your post, but none the less, it is there, and while you are correct in your terms of the human language and its use, the fact that the word neophyte does in fact mean beginner, it is also used as a derogatory comment to insult someone, IE, calling someone a noob or nub, those both mean someone new to something, but are taking as insults. I hope this explains why your comments could be taken in a negative way.
I for one have fed raw and fed kibble, I fed raw for several years and I liked doing it, but I found that I did not have the time to prepare the food etc, so I went back to kibble, and yes I still feed some raw, such as some ground beef or tripe, and an occasional chicken quarter as a treat or to help put weight on a dog.
With that said, I disagree with you only on one of your statements, and that is the one where your saying that feeding raw is the only way to feed your dogs if you want healthy dogs, (yes I know thats not an exact quote but you get the idea), The fact is that if you feed kibble you get healthy dogs as well, and just because you supplement your kibble for your dogs thats great as well, after all most raw feeders also supplement, they do this by adding vitamins etc, or differing meats and organs, etc to the diet.
And as for the debate on carnivore omnivore, well, the fact is that as a behaviorist, I would have to say that dogs are indeed by nature a carnivore, meaning they stalk chase kill and eat their prey, but they are also secondarily an omnivore, in that they will eat veggies and other things as well, I know many dogs that raid the garden to eat veggies and eat grass, and yes its true that if you watch a dog eat an intact animal such as a rabbit ( i used to feed mine large feeding rabbits) they will tear the stomach open and eat the contents first, which are veggies. So to say that they are exclusively meat eaters is truly incorrect, but to say they arent meat eaters, is incorrect as well.
Also I would say that I understand Dennisovs distrust in the companies agenda etc, because yes they are there to make a profit, but so is everyone else, including the farming industry, hence why they feed cows corn, when it is NOT something they should eat, and why chicken is raised the way they are, and pumped full of steroids and antibiotics so they grow super fast and super large. Yet you would think this is so much better for our dogs than a processed kibble, well I dont know that it is that different. but hey thats just my opinion. but if you want to get a good idea of this, watch the movie Food Inc, it will open your eyes.
Now guys remember, discussion and helping others understand how to do something is great, but lets not get into debating and taking sides and trying to prove one of us is better than the other, instead lets answer questions, give feedback and thoughts and have a great forum for learning and sharing.
Hope it helps.
That's even funny!
Welcome to the club here ROFL
