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Training for getting along with other dogs

Ravenbird

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Recent discussion of SSA, I thought I'd share this.

I was just talking about SSA with our neighbor who I take care of their dog quite often. A Pit-mix, she is pretty soft with humans & training & is shy & easily intimidated, but with dogs she is bold and stands her ground, and pretty defensive acting when meeting another dog. This is the kind of dog that would set Asha off because she's the same way. A dog that doesn't look or stare or stiffen up she will totally ignore, but she's not the type to ignore a challenge. Both dogs get along fine off leash with other dogs once they are part of their group.

Recently we've taken a few hikes together, meeting up between our properties on the road so territory is neutral. First day, they see each other they lock eyes quickly and hair up and bark. We both use e-collars, correct that with a "leave it" and get to walking the same direction as quickly as we can. In less than a minute both dogs are neutral and my friend lets his dog off leash, she totally ignores Asha and just walks as if we weren't there. After another few minutes I let Asha off leash and she does the same. Runs, sniffs, ignores the other dog and we do a nice hike together. We did it again today, with about 1/2 the meetup grumbling, so hopefully that will soon pass. These dogs have both learned that their human is most important and the dog along for the walk is not a threat. Today Asha was rolling in the grass and almost hinted at getting the zoomies with the other dog, but the other dog kinda gave her space, like, "I'm not so sure I want to", and Asha just forgot about inviting her to zoom and ignored her once again.

The point I was going to make is that when meeting up on neutral ground, both of these dogs delivers a strong challenge to the other within seconds: Stare, lock eyes, hair up and bark. If I had had Reckless with me rather than Asha, Reckless would not stare back, wouldn't stiffen up or bark, she would ignore the "challenge" and so likely the dominate dog would just relax and forget about it. It's when the two girls are very much the same wanting to spar a bit is when you really have to watch them. With the added insurance of me knowing this dog for longer than I've had Asha, and that I know her owner has control on leash and off leash, AND that both dogs consider their owner more important than another dog, we were off leash together quickly and zero animosity.

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thoughtful of you to write this up and share it! Thanks! It's always nice when you meet someone, or know someone that has a dog and you both have like-minded goals in mind. Also nice when you are with another dog/owner who is aware of the weak links in their dog and you can both share honestly about them. Once in a while you come across dogs who have all kinds of weak links and the owner won't even acknowledge them, and that is when I get frustrated, mostly just for their dog.
 
Our dogs are fine with any other dogs on neutral ground as long as they're not in their face.
Here at home we can have males in but Elroy is not a fan so I'm pretty sure I'd never want another male living in the house since I don't want to crate and rotate all the time. Sometimes you can't train SSA away and I'm sure @Doberman Gang and a few others can attest to that.
I think we could get away with another female since Olive is easy going but you just never know.
 
Thanks for sharing this, as I am interested in how Pepper will act around other dogs someday. Really cool you know someone who put in the work with their dog - making you feel comfortable to have your dogs off leash together.
Great photo too!
 
Really cool you know someone who put in the work with their dog - making you feel comfortable to have your dogs off leash together.
Asha has been off leash with lots of other dogs, but all of them we know and/or in a training situation where everyone is well aware of the other dogs behavior & level of training. No dog parks or random meet ups. As @Katyusharocket said it normally isn't a problem, especially with a laid back dog. Reckless in her 10 years never gave a stink eye or grumble to another dog (or person) in her life. Asha is the opposite and tends to want to start a challenge. It's knowing your dog (and the other dogs!!!) that call for vigilance.
 
Asha has been off leash with lots of other dogs, but all of them we know and/or in a training situation where everyone is well aware of the other dogs behavior & level of training. No dog parks or random meet ups. As @Katyusharocket said it normally isn't a problem, especially with a laid back dog. Reckless in her 10 years never gave a stink eye or grumble to another dog (or person) in her life. Asha is the opposite and tends to want to start a challenge. It's knowing your dog (and the other dogs!!!) that call for vigilance.
I have one friend with a well trained male Doberman who is 3.5 years old. Once Pepper is over her heat I may try a walk with them.

She showed interest in one male Doberman months ago, but he didn’t seem to care much.

We can walk by dogs now no problem she looks and then keeps moving on her way.
 
Love that you posted your experience with your neighbor. Definatley makes a difference when you know the dog, and the owner. Too many people jump the gun, and think 'oh they seem fine together' and the problem starts. Great info!!
 
Great write up Ravenbird!! I'm glad Asha can have fun times with a friend in a safe and controlled environment.

Here is gilly with his German shepherd girlfriend at the trainers-- he basically just wears em down with over the top friendliness and excessive playbowing (he may think he's a lab...). 🤣

He just had a traumatic experience though when his good buddy came to see him with a cone on his head-- gilly was seriously skeeved out and ran around with his nub tucked in until he finally recognized his buddy under the cone of shame! Lol!
 

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Here is gilly with his German shepherd girlfriend at the trainers-- he basically just wears em down with over the top friendliness and excessive playbowing
Love that photo! Such a Dobie thing to do!

He just had a traumatic experience though when his good buddy came to see him with a cone on his head-- gilly was seriously skeeved out and ran around with his nub tucked in until he finally recognized his buddy under the cone of shame! Lol!
That did make me laugh. Reminded me of years ago with my other Dobe, first time she wore a coat out in the snow. I had two cats that didn't notice when I put it on the dog, went out for a romp in the snow and when she came in the house the two cats saw her in that jacket and literally flew across the living room hair sticking straight out, tails like a bottle brush! LOL, sometimes these animals react before they think...
 

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