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I think I'm gonna go with Acana duck and pear and rotate with orijen tundra or EarthbornI was feeding Orijen 6 Fish. It was higher in Copper content than several of the others in the line
I think I'm gonna go with Acana duck and pear and rotate with orijen tundra or EarthbornI was feeding Orijen 6 Fish. It was higher in Copper content than several of the others in the line
Earthborn Holistic has never had a recall.I think I'm gonna go with Acana duck and pear and rotate with orijen tundra or Earthborn

It is what you posted, but it was lower than some of the other foods I was able to feed (I deal with food sensitivities). Since they won't eat the Orijen or Acana (I tried Tundra and a few of the Acana singles and they caused the same issue) it was my best option. So basically don't listen to me, lolI found some interesting info, the Fromm surf and turf contains 21mg/kg copper, Orijen Tundra is only 10, and Acana singles duck and pear is 9-15mg/kg, now I'm confused lol
The other Orijen varieties are higher in Copper than the Fromm Surf and TurfLamb and apple.When Drogon was pup we tried a bunch of different foods. Most gave him lose stool or gas. We finally tried Acana 'Pacifica'. As @Archer said Orijen/Acana (same company) changed formulas when they moved to US. Now Pacifica is Atlantica and Drogon went back to having lose stools. I stayed with Acana and switched to Lamb and Apple which has worked out well for us. He had some gas during the transition but has since cleared up and his stool is firmer than ever. He's 2 now.
Good planI think I'm gonna go with Acana duck and pear and rotate with orijen tundra or Earthborn
Watch your calcium/phosphorus ratio in a growing puppy. Not sure about Earthborn, but Acana is not an ALS food. Orijen tends to be high in cal/phos than other foods. I wouldn't worry about it unless he starts to knuckle. Not trying to worry you. Was just sharing my experience incase you may need it in the future 
It's their singles line.. like their version of a LID dietLamb and apple.
Interesting. I can't recall a food ever calling out apple as a main ingredient. But hey, what ever works.
I'll avoid that mix myself, we have two apple trees.During the season Rocky gets more than his share.
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Thank you! I did some more reading and the standards say no less then 7mg/kg for copper, but I couldn't find anything that says what the food should be less then in copper? Should it be less than 30? Less than 20, 15? It seems like 10 is the lowest you can find (which is Orijen tundra) except for medical diets which I wouldn't want to do unless there IS an issue, so what do you think is a good "less then" guide in regards of copper mg/kg?Good planWatch your calcium/phosphorus ratio in a growing puppy. Not sure about Earthborn, but Acana is not an ALS food. Orijen tends to be high in cal/phos than other foods. I wouldn't worry about it unless he starts to knuckle. Not trying to worry you. Was just sharing my experience incase you may need it in the future
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I am not a vet, but from what I've seen the 20 ish range is ok for a predisposed breed.Thank you! I did some more reading and the standards say no less then 7mg/kg for copper, but I couldn't find anything that says what the food should be less then in copper? Should it be less than 30? Less than 20, 15? It seems like 10 is the lowest you can find (which is Orijen tundra) except for medical diets which I wouldn't want to do unless there IS an issue, so what do you think is a good "less then" guide in regards of copper mg/kg?
I did do a lot of research on the claims that Orijen was too high in copper and caused issues and never found any hard proof of it. That said, for a few reasons I don't feed it anymore. My dogs are also both on Fromm formulas and I'm really happy with that company. Richter eats the Chicken a la Veg and Sypha eats Salmon Tunalini.
)I am loving the Fromm. Better coats, zero gas and better condition. I'll have to pick up that read. Thanks for the recommendationI'm sorry, guys...I don't get email notifications anymore, even though I have my settings set up to get oneI did do a lot of research on the claims that Orijen was too high in copper and caused issues and never found any hard proof of it. That said, for a few reasons I don't feed it anymore. My dogs are also both on Fromm formulas and I'm really happy with that company. Richter eats the Chicken a la Veg and Sypha eats Salmon Tunalini.
Whenever people are looking at food and nutrition I highly recommend reading Linda Case's book "Dog Food Logic." She's a canine nutritionist - her master's degree is in canine nutrition. The book is short, an easy read, and very educational. It really helped me feel less stressed about dog food, and she's an actual expert (unlike many who claim to be online)
Whenever people are looking at food and nutrition I highly recommend reading Linda Case's book "Dog Food Logic." She's a canine nutritionist - her master's degree is in canine nutrition. The book is short, an easy read, and very educational. It really helped me feel less stressed about dog food, and she's an actual expert (unlike many who claim to be online)
Yup. Same company. I switched to Fromm and feed the Four Star Nutritionals Surf and Turf. My puppyes are on the Fromm Holistic GOLD puppy. Dogs Have better coats and muscle tone on it and zero gas issues. Dogs love it. Good company with zero recalls and based in the US. I was horribly dissapointed with the change in Orijen/Acana. If you are having success feeding the Orijen don't switch unless you want to. It is still a good food. The food manufactured in the US now receives a lower rating than the food processed in CA. I'm glad Champion Petfood stuck to their principles when they opened their plant in KY and kept it regionally sourced, but it messed it up for many.
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It seems like the copper comes from the meat, therefore would using the Orijen fish be a better alternative?
Nice to see you again! Our dogs have always been on TOTW and do great with it. I agree that Fromm makes a great food too. Hopefully neither one of those companies change their formulas since I pretty much rely on them for our dogs.Hello everyone. Its been a long time. Hope all is well.
I just transitioned Princess from Earthborn to Zignatures. P has a sensitivity to anything chicken and this is one of the few foods that offer chicken and grain free formulas and you can rotate them month to month. They even have a kangaroo formula. The pet store I get my food from gave me sample packs of all their formulas. I did a taste test with all the sample packs and Princess chose lamb ( over venison and kangaroo) go figure.Hello everyone. Its been a long time. Hope all is well.
Thought I would come on here to see any comments about Orijen with their new formulas. Axl has been eating the Original chicken and red meat formulas over the past 4 years.... The new formula changes rolled out here in February. He is not doing that great now. So mad. He's pooping like 5-6 times a day, gas, eating tons of grass, and a little extreme anxiety starting to show. Grrrrr. Going to try the new Acana formula without oatmeal and crossing fingers. Axl is hard to feed as some of you know. And he's tried so many foods if not all of them over the years.
What have some of you changed to? At least dogs with extreme food intolerances.
Is that food in Canada? Never heard of it.I just transitioned Princess from Earthborn to Zignatures. P has a sensitivity to anything chicken and this is one of the few foods that offer chicken and grain free formulas and you can rotate them month to month. They even have a kangaroo formula. The pet store I get my food from gave me sample packs of all their formulas. I did a taste test with all the sample packs and Princess chose lamb ( over venison and kangaroo) go figure.
I love FROMM company..wish he could eat it. He loses weight on the grain free and cannot eat the other formulas. U are lucky.Both of my dogs eat Fromm. One eats a formula with grain, one a grain free. Both look spectacular.