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I think results speak for themselves. Ares has proved time and time again that he's amazing, I have faith in my abilities to raise a very well rounded dog. I'm really not worried. I know she's gonna be a handful, Ares was as well. Ares was much more dog then I was prepared for, this time I have more of what to expect and a lot more back up. I've never had a dog like a Doberman before and now just about two years experience leading me to this point. I know she's not going to like Ares, but I'm assuming pretty close, and I have come so far with my own knowledge, and not only training, but the Doberman. My work to me speaks for itself, Ares is an amazing dog and she will be as well, just may have to tweak a few things and learn new things, which is what I love. I love to meet a challenge, but I know she's going to not only have me to raise her, but a very well balance pack to guide her as well.
Oh yes. You have rehabbed pretty Miss Boo amazingly! At the dog park today, I saw a dog that looked like a smaller version of Boo. I wanted to snap a pic, but I have to be very vigilant and ready for action with little Mr. King of the Dog Park.
And I meant be like Ares ...
I'm very proud of my Boo girl and her accomplishments
taking her to the dog beach was an extension of me saying I trust you, no problems. I know this little red devil will be fun, but she will be a very well rounded girl.
Hope you didn't take my previous comment as a shot?
I guess I should expand on the thought from last night and this post.
I have no question or concern of your ability to train this girl.
It's just that, you've experienced raising Deagan, and Ares the black boy, and rescued and rehabbed Boo.
But you haven't experienced in full a red doberbitch.
She will learn, and you and the pack will train her, but she's going to challenge you in ways you've probably not felt with yet.
Don't get me wrong, those challenges will only add to how much you appreciate and love her.
It's going to be fun, and I can't wait to watch it all happen.
If I'm going to throw all the cards on the table, I have only one concern. And, not really a concern but certainly something that could happen.
As this little spitfire grows and matures you have to acknowledge the possibility of her challenging Boo for top female position.
Female on female aggression can get ugly.
There's also another possibility. That none of that happens.
I can only offer you my little snippet of experience.
From the first day Daisy came home to the last day Maxie breathed air, Daisy never once challenged or became aggressive with Maxie. And Maxie was only half Daisy's size.
Only once was there a squabble and it was because Maxie was going to try and steal Daisy's sausage. And Daisy wasn't having that.
So there's another thing to keep in mind, the older dogs trying to take advantage.
This is all stuff you already know as far as how dogs act.
I think your well balanced crew will be fine with another member. But mama may need a glass of wine at the end of the day
More like a bottle. I'll be sure to be on the ssa thing like I was with Ares and Deegan. I hope that would never happen, but we know that for awhile. I'm certainly going to prevent it from happening as much as I possibly can.
Hope you didn't take my previous comment as a shot?
I guess I should expand on the thought from last night and this post.
I have no question or concern of your ability to train this girl.
It's just that, you've experienced raising Deagan, and Ares the black boy, and rescued and rehabbed Boo.
But you haven't experienced in full a red doberbitch.
She will learn, and you and the pack will train her, but she's going to challenge you in ways you've probably not felt with yet.
Don't get me wrong, those challenges will only add to how much you appreciate and love her.
It's going to be fun, and I can't wait to watch it all happen.
If I'm going to throw all the cards on the table, I have only one concern. And, not really a concern but certainly something that could happen.
As this little spitfire grows and matures you have to acknowledge the possibility of her challenging Boo for top female position.
Female on female aggression can get ugly.
There's also another possibility. That none of that happens.
I can only offer you my little snippet of experience.
From the first day Daisy came home to the last day Maxie breathed air, Daisy never once challenged or became aggressive with Maxie. And Maxie was only half Daisy's size.
Only once was there a squabble and it was because Maxie was going to try and steal Daisy's sausage. And Daisy wasn't having that.
So there's another thing to keep in mind, the older dogs trying to take advantage.
This is all stuff you already know as far as how dogs act.
I think your well balanced crew will be fine with another member. But mama may need a glass of wine at the end of the day
I've heard mention of this notion of the Reds having a different temperament from the Blacks, and this specific idea that a Red female is more of a force to be reckoned with. It's come, here in this thread, to a point where I need to speak a word on it.But you haven't experienced in full a red doberbitch.
I know it's a fun notion to speak of Red females as akin to "fiery redheads." It's my understanding that this is just a fun notion and that the different colors of Doberman do not carry with them different temperaments.
Not trying to be a buzzkill here, but again, it's being presented as fact with regard to what @AresMyDobie is going to be facing in raising her upcoming Red girl.
Just in Googling that thought, because I've heard it come up many times here, and it seems to be pretty consistent across the Internet that reds are indeed more fiery than blacks. Is it fact that red headed people are more "temperamental" than those of different hair colors? I don't know, but I do know that every red head I know sure has a heck of a lot more temper than anyone else I know. Maybe coincidence... maybe not? Just speculation here.
I'm still really not worried about it. I have a very high drive Dobe already. I think I can cap her behavior, I know she will present new challenges, but what dog doesn't I'm all around very excited to have an awesome pack by my side to help me, help her in learning. She's gonna be another wonderdobe in the works
I'm all around very excited to have an awesome pack by my side to help me, help her in learning. She's gonna be another wonderdobe in the works
Lol.
I can only speak from my limited experience there.
I knew a black female as a younger kid, and a blue female I knew much better. I was the only kid on the street that wasn't family she would let in the house.
And then there was Daisy.
They're all Dobermans, so they're all a force to be reckoned with.
The red girl had a little
in her. Mischievous? Maybe not the right word. I don't know how else to describe it.
I will weigh in 'lightly' here as I don't want to get my wings clipped.
Bacall is my first red female but I have been around many dobe females of all colors and I have to say from my experience they (the reds) have that fire in them that I have not seen in the other colors. They are comical, playful and loving but they have that "quick to challenge" and control what they don't like with another dog.
It's a no back down situation until they say it's over or you intervene.
Perhaps I don't have AMD's particular training experience but I have quite a bit of experience in animals that most could not handle, i.e. dogs, birds, snakes, horses and other exotics. What I have learned is that nothing is carved in stone and each one requires a different approach and they all will challenge. To what degree they challenge is where you come in with how you deal with them.
IMHO red females have strong personalities, more so than the other females. My fawn female was the sweetest dog ever she loved everyone and every thing, she did not like confrontation but would rise to the occasion if needed.
Now Bacall puts it out there period. Her buttons are easily activated if Bogie is doing something she is not happy with.
She reminds me of my mother who was a red head. I learned growing up dynamite comes in small red packages.
There are always exceptions to the rule but my experience has been they are far and few between.
Ok....backing out of this convo now. lol
Bacall is my first red female but I have been around many dobe females of all colors and I have to say from my experience they (the reds) have that fire in them that I have not seen in the other colors. They are comical, playful and loving but they have that "quick to challenge" and control what they don't like with another dog.
It's a no back down situation until they say it's over or you intervene.
Perhaps I don't have AMD's particular training experience but I have quite a bit of experience in animals that most could not handle, i.e. dogs, birds, snakes, horses and other exotics. What I have learned is that nothing is carved in stone and each one requires a different approach and they all will challenge. To what degree they challenge is where you come in with how you deal with them.
IMHO red females have strong personalities, more so than the other females. My fawn female was the sweetest dog ever she loved everyone and every thing, she did not like confrontation but would rise to the occasion if needed.
Now Bacall puts it out there period. Her buttons are easily activated if Bogie is doing something she is not happy with.
She reminds me of my mother who was a red head. I learned growing up dynamite comes in small red packages.
There are always exceptions to the rule but my experience has been they are far and few between.
Ok....backing out of this convo now. lol
Hey, all good information here. In fact, I wonder if there is a thread regarding temperament differences in the different colors.
I didn't observe anything in my Red boy's temperament that stood out except for he didn't engage in any of what I called "doggy behaviors." He seemed above that – a different type of animal. But I don't attribute this to his color. I attribute it to his breed, but key in that is that he was from breedings that just produced family pets. The last two Dobes I've had have been more "doggy" behaving, but they've been bred for sport/work.
Tad it was the same with my first red boy 'Rocky'.
It seems to be the case with Bogie too. Other than Bacall, he doesn't seem to be much interested in doggy behavior. He has an almost haughty air about him. Lol
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No, that IS the EXACT RIGHT WORD. THAT is the word that BEST describes my Ruby. Period. lolThe red girl had a little
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@AresMyDobie I personally think your baby will LOVE Ares the minute they meet. Ares may tire of the constant ear chewing, jumping, biting,pouncing, paw slapping baby sister, but he will learn lots of patience and tolerence! lol Now as for Ares teaching her right from wrong...don't be surprised if Athena gets into something and Ares is off to the side, like "I have nothing to do with this" "It's all HER mom!" LOL
There it is. You just described Daisy to a T.
She would tolerate quite a bit but once pushed over that line, watch out!
Even if Rocky recoiled from the situation sometimes I had to give a finger snap to get her to turn off.
Then there was her pushy side, again I think it's stronger in reds and females in general. A red female, forgetaboutit.
My buddy Chris, whenever he was over she demanded pets and attention. Chris is a hairy dude, she would yank a tuft of hair from his lower forearm/wrist area if he didn't pet her. Then wag her nub and nuzzle into him. Because she was a little
Lol Ares isn't even two yet so I think puppy behavior from her will be more then welcome with him lol he's still puppy like as well lol I no doubt know that she will be getting into trouble lol
Look at that face lol 
That face has a "get out of jail free card" written all over it.
It makes me melt.
It makes me melt.
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