Yes, and this is why the correct use of a collar is stressed. I have used the stim on an e-collar exactly twice and that was when our last male was barreling down the driveway after a big snowplow on the road and the other it was a big piece of equipment coming by. Both times he got a brief stimulation and came right back or the alternative was to get hit by tons of metal coming by.
For me, yes. Definitely NILIF for bond building - the side eye tells me lack of trust, respect and that needs to be addressed first.
The reason I included “ giving you last word” was for me to amicably bow-out of a seeming to me tiring circular argument in the sense of differing opinion that led back to square one of our differing training philosophy—hence circular — I opted to retire from whipping a dead horse IYKWIM as it is evident neither furthering opinion was not advancing position of debate and rebuttal. Please don't construe 'whipping'
literally in the context of animal behaviour as something I do, would, or did do. Nevertheless I acknowledge your position of agreement in the remaining input from the content remainder of the paragraph following “Yes …..etc.etc.etc.”I readily understand that if that behaviour has never been witnessed then perhaps 'biased' disbelief will find its way to affirm “it would be fantastic if it works”. Allow me to point to gun dog retriever trials or a downfield Sch/send out where an ear piercing SINGLE BLAST of pea whistle to stop dead in tracks is hand in glove in water retriever trials — as is a handler 70 yards removed from dog with handler barking PLATZ to accomplish the 'fantastic if it works' in question disbelief. Merely backing up probability via fact, from improbability based on sense of wonder as never having experienced.
