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Questions about what collar to use

Joe

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Hi everyone, we are starting obedience training with our 11 week old puppy. The trainer we hired uses a "Choke collar" but I've heard the horror stories that one can cause. I am looking for other alternative's to the "Choke collar". I heard the Martingale collar is a good alternative. Thanks in advance.
 
I am not sure about training with a martingale but I will use one as a everyday collar once he gets bigger. They give me peace of mind knowing that they cant back out of them. Collars - 2 Hounds Design make beautiful fabric ones of your interested in those.

In my experience training collars of all sorts; choke collars prong collars head halters ecollars ect are good tools when used properly. The horror stories typically come from unaware people using then in ways they are not intended to be used. As long as you decide to become educated in their proper use and are safety aware, I personally do not see an issue with any of the options out there.
 
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Just to clarify my late night post, I completely agree that he is to young for any training collars.

I have a pup as well, he is 12 weeks old, I don't even have a everyday collar on him. I just use a slip lead currently and will use that until he is closer to his full size.
 
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I would honestly question the ability of the trainer if he wants to put a pup that age in a choke collar. Most trainers should know better than that, IMO.
I completely agree!!! ANY Person with dog experience would know better than that. For the original poster, I think you seem much more informed as well as having better instincts for your dog than your "trainer." Good luck with your puppy! I have a 14 week old puppy and I use a flat collar and treats. Works great for us.
 
Thank you everyone for the information. We have decided to postpone the trainer, and focus on socializing him, and training with treats until he is a little older.
I think that is wise. It is hard isn't it? I have spent A LOT of time trying to make sure I was doing "everything right" for my puppy, too. In my experience, if you are going through all of that trouble you are most likely doing a GREAT JOB!
 
I completely agree!!! ANY Person with dog experience would know better than that. For the original poster, I think you seem much more informed as well as having better instincts for your dog than your "trainer." Good luck with your puppy! I have a 14 week old puppy and I use a flat collar and treats. Works great for us.

Treats have been working very well for us. He still pulls a little on the leash but has improved tremendously.
 
Treats have been working very well for us. He still pulls a little on the leash but has improved tremendously.
Awesome! Have you watched/read any info on how to use treats to teach heel work? I could make one for you, if it would be helpful. You could also just try YouTube.
 
Awesome! Have you watched/read any info on how to use treats to teach heel work? I could make one for you, if it would be helpful. You could also just try YouTube.

Yes I have seen some, but always interested in new info. Thanks.
 
the trainer we hired uses a "Choke collar" but I've heard the horror stories that one can cause.
I forgot to mention that if you google choke/prong collars, you'll see horrible images that make you reject the idea of the devices. That's what we did for many weeks and just endured the dogs pulling 'hoping' he'd sort himself out with our other efforts. Dobes tend to pull naturally...would be interesting to find out if anyone here has a Dobe that was never a puller? The other confusion we had was around the difference between the two devices. I used to think they were interchangeable so it was good to have it explained by those that know!
 
Prong collars are a great training tool, choke collars can be very damaging the the trachea of a dog so I would not recommend them. I do not recommend using a prong until a dog is st least 9 months to a year old. Younger dogs need to be taught manners and leash pressure, this will eliminate the need for constant or nagging corrections once the dog hits the teenage phase.
 
Prong collars are a great training tool, choke collars can be very damaging the the trachea of a dog so I would not recommend them. I do not recommend using a prong until a dog is st least 9 months to a year old. Younger dogs need to be taught manners and leash pressure, this will eliminate the need for constant or nagging corrections once the dog hits the teenage phase.

Could you explain how you teach leash pressure?
 
Could you explain how you teach leash pressure?
I teach with my dogs on my left side but it can be taught on either side. Start just standing still, pull straight back slowly on the leash until there is a good amount of tension on it. Hold tension and as soon as any of your dogs feet make a movement backwards mark the behavior and immediately release the pressure and reward. I use the word yes for my reward marker but it can be anything you want. Something quick and easy to say, timing is the key. I also teach leash pressure in all directions, side to side and forward, it will allow subtle adjustments with the leash while teaching heeling to keep the dog in perfect heel position. Once the dog is moving easily with pressure you can start giving the pressure a command, like back, say back first then apply the pressure. Eventually your dog will back up with just the command and no leash pressure. Train all steps before taking it outside with distractions.
 
I teach with my dogs on my left side but it can be taught on either side. Start just standing still, pull straight back slowly on the leash until there is a good amount of tension on it. Hold tension and as soon as any of your dogs feet make a movement backwards mark the behavior and immediately release the pressure and reward. I use the word yes for my reward marker but it can be anything you want. Something quick and easy to say, timing is the key. I also teach leash pressure in all directions, side to side and forward, it will allow subtle adjustments with the leash while teaching heeling to keep the dog in perfect heel position. Once the dog is moving easily with pressure you can start giving the pressure a command, like back, say back first then apply the pressure. Eventually your dog will back up with just the command and no leash pressure. Train all steps before taking it outside with distractions.

Great! Thanks for the information.
 

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