Leash aggression.. my gentle giant

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Has anyone dealt with leash aggression? Gunner is very friendly loves people and other dogs but when he’s on his leash it’s a different story. The hairs on his body will all stand and he becomes a Cujo.. he’s never been aggressive towards anyone or any dogs, he actually loves dogs and people but on leash he looks like he’s in attack mode. I honestly feel if i had someone chasing me he’d run along like it was a game he’s our gentle giant
 
My current girl is reactive on the lead. More fear than anything. It’s not people it’s other dogs. She’s 4 years old and we’ve only had her 4 months. We’ve seen some progress but we are only working in little steps. Previously, she was not exposed to the outside world, just caged her whole life and bred.

We work on focus ‘Look at me’ whilst out and about. Keep a good distance from other dogs. She can still see them and if she’s not reacting, she’s praised. If you see a dog approaching, cross the street, do about turn. Don’t let him go over his comfort level. Be one step ahead of him at all times. Be a calm, assertive leader. If you’re flustered, he’ll feel it through the leash.

Don’t punish the reactive behaviour. He’s doing it because he’s uncomfortable and upset.

Is he reactive with people and dogs on a leash?
 
More training while in chaos situations is what Grace requires...I go to the dog park and work outside the fence while 40 dogs are barking...train train train some more.
 
He’s aggressive towards dog on leash. I try to keep my distance when i see a dog approaching. He loves people and dogs it’s just on leash he goes crazy. I don’t think he wants to attack i feel it’s his way of trying to get closer to the dog to interact with it. At the dog park before entering he’s super anxious and will whine the entire walk from the car to the gate but he stands and walks at this alert stance with his body stiff. Once we enter he’ll run up to a dog with that same demeanor sniff and bolt off playing.. it’s just seeing a dog at a distance hypes him up. I’ll try to calm him and him him look at me while petting him, I’ve even offered treats but he’s too focused he doesn’t want anything
 
Another thing while interacting with dogs at the dog park, he refuses water and gets a lot of drool and foam around his mouth while he’s playing.. it’s crazy how much he produces in 30 mins of playing..
 
Frustration can build up in dogs on leash. Train! Take the time to teach him self control and basic obedience commands which you can reinforce, and praise his good behaviour. Keep an eye on his body posture, change in his ears, head, mouth and tail carriage. Body language is nothing more than an external expression of an internal state. Redirect his attention. Keep working with him daily.
 
I don’t think he wants to attack i feel it’s his way of trying to get closer to the dog to interact with it. At the dog park before entering he’s super anxious and will whine the entire walk from the car to the gate but he stands and walks at this alert stance with his body stiff. Once we enter he’ll run up to a dog with that same demeanor sniff and bolt off playing..
Sounds to me like he's not being aggressive, he's just got bad leash manners. Does he know the wait command? He shouldn't get anything he wants without having to wait for it. That will also help calm him down.

Running straight up to another stiff dog will one day turn into a fight if he does that to the wrong dog.

Not wanting water while playing is normal. Shouldn't offer water (or food) while he's playing hard though as it can cause bloat. Frothing at the mouth is pretty normal.
 
WHO'S IN CHARGE HERE?
Written by Vicki Rodenberg De Gruy

How to become leader of your packYour dog watches you constantly and reads your body language. He knows if you're insecure, uncomfortable in a leadership role or won't enforce a command. This behavior confuses him, makes -him- insecure and if he's a natural leader or has a social-climbing personality, it'll encourage him to assume the alpha position and tell -you- what to do."Alpha" is an attitude. It involves quiet confidence, dignity, intelligence, an air of authority. A dog can sense this attitude almost immediately - it's how his mother acted towards him. Watch a professional trainer or a good obedience instructor. They stand tall and use their voices and eyes to project the idea that they're capable of getting what they want. They're gentle but firm, loving but tough, all at the same time. Most dogs are immediately submissive towards this type of personality because they recognize and respect alpha when they see it.Practice being alpha. Stand up straight with your shoulders back. Walk tall. Practice using a new tone of voice, one that's deep and firm. Don't ask your dog to do something - tell him. There's a difference. He knows the difference, too! Remember that, as alpha, you're entitled to make the rules and give the orders. Your dog understands that instinctively.With most dogs, just this change in your attitude and an obedience training course will be enough to turn things around. With a dog that's already taken over the household and has enforced his position by growling or biting and has been allowed to get away with it, you'll need to do more than just decide to be alpha. The dog is going to need an attitude adjustment as well.Natural leaders and social climbers aren't going to want to give up their alpha position. Your sudden change in behavior is going to shock and threaten them. Your dog might act even more aggressively than before. An alpha dog will instinctively respond to challenges to his authority. It's his nature to want to put down revolutionary uprisings by the peasants! Don't worry, there's a way around it.An alpha dog already knows that he can beat you in a physical fight so returning his aggression with violence of your own won't work. Until you've successfully established your position as alpha, corrections like hitting, shaking, or using the "rollover" techniques described in some books will not work and can be downright dangerous to you. An alpha dog will respond to these methods with violence and you could be seriously hurt.What you need to do is use your brain! You're smarter than he is and you can out think him. You'll also need to be stubborner than he is. What I'm about to describe here is an effective, non-violent method of removing your dog from alpha status and putting him back at the bottom of the family totem pole where he belongs and where he needs to be. In order for this method to work, your whole family has to be involved. It requires an attitude adjustment from everyone and a new way of working with your dog.This is serious business. A dog that bites or threatens people is a dangerous dog, no matter how much you love him. If treating your dog like a dog and not an equal seems harsh to you, keep in mind that our society no longer tolerates dangerous dogs. Lawsuits from dog bites are now settling for millions of dollars - you could lose your home and everything else you own if your dog injures someone. You or your children could be permanently disfigured. And your dog could lose his life. That's the bottom line.

Canine Boot Camp for Alpha Attitude AdjustmentFrom this day forward, you're going to teach your dog that he is a dog, not a miniature human being in a furry suit. His mother taught him how to be a dog once and how to take orders. Along the way, through lack of training or misunderstood intentions, he's forgotten. With your help, he's going to remember what he is and how he fits into the world. Before long, he's even going to like it!Dogs were bred to look to humans for food, companionship and guidance. An alpha dog doesn't ask for what he wants, he demands it. He lets you know in no uncertain terms that he wants his dinner, that he wants to go out, that he wants to play and be petted and that he wants these things right now. You're going to teach him that from now on, he has to earn what he gets. No more free rides. This is going to be a shock to his system at first but you'll be surprised how quickly he'll catch on and that he'll actually become eager to please you.If your dog doesn't already know the simple command SIT, teach it to him. Reward him with praise and a tidbit. Don't go overboard with the praise. A simple "Good boy!" in a happy voice is enough. Now, every time your dog wants something - his dinner, a trip outside, a walk, some attention, anything - tell him (remember don't ask him, tell him) to SIT first. When he does, praise him with a "Good Boy!", then tell him OKAY and give him whatever it is he wants as a reward. If he refuses to SIT, walk away and ignore him. No SIT, no reward. If you don't think he understands the command, work on his training some more. If he just doesn't want to obey, ignore him - don't give him what he wants or reward him in any fashion.Make him sit before giving him his dinner, make him sit at the door before going outside, make him sit in front of you to be petted, make him sit before giving him his toy. If you normally leave food out for him all the time, stop. Go to a twice daily feeding and you decide what time of day he'll be fed. Make him sit for his dinner. If he won't obey the command - no dinner. Walk away and ignore him. Bring the food out later and tell him again to SIT. If he understands the command, don't tell him more than once. He heard you the first time. Give commands from a standing position and use a deep, firm tone of voice.If the dog respects certain members of the family but not others, let the others be the ones to feed him and bring the good things to his life for now. Show them how to make him obey the SIT command and how to walk away and ignore him if he won't do as he's told. It's important that your whole family follows this program. Dogs are like kids - if they can't have their way with Mom, they'll go ask Dad. In your dog's case, if he finds a member of the family that he can dominate, he'll continue to do so. You want your dog to learn that he has to respect and obey everyone. Remember - his place is at the bottom of the totem pole. Bouncing him from the top spot helps but if he thinks he's anywhere in the middle, you're still going to have problems.Think - you know your dog and know what he's likely to do under most circumstances. Stay a step ahead of him and anticipate his behavior so you can avoid or correct it. If he gets into the trash and growls when scolded, make the trash can inaccessible. If he likes to bolt out the door ahead of you, put a leash on him. Make him sit and wait while you open the door and give him permission - OKAY! - to go out. If your alpha dog doesn't like to come when he's called (and he probably doesn't!), don't let him outside off leash. Without a leash, you have no control over him and he knows it.Petting and attention:Alpha dogs are used to being fussed over. In a real dog pack, subordinate dogs are forever touching, licking and grooming the alpha dog. It's a show of respect and submission. For now, until his attitude has shown improvement, cut down on the amount of cuddling your dog gets. When he wants attention, make him SIT first, give him a few kind words and pats, then stop. Go back to whatever it was you were doing and ignore him. If he pesters you, tell him NO! in a firm voice and ignore him some more. Pet him when you want to, not just because he wants you to. Also, for the time being, don't get down on the floor or on your knees to pet your dog. That, too, is a show of submission. Give praise, petting and rewards from a position that's higher than the dog.Games:If you or anyone in your family wrestles, rough-houses or plays tug of war with your dog, stop! These games encourage dogs to dominate people physically and to use their teeth. In a dog pack or in a litter, these games are more than just playing - they help to establish pack order based on physical strength. Your dog is already probably stronger and quicker than you are. Rough, physical games prove that to him. He doesn't need to be reminded of it!Find new games for him to play. Hide & seek, fetch or frisbee catching are more appropriate. Make sure you're the one who starts and ends the game, not the dog. Stop playing before the dog gets bored and is inclined to try to keep the ball or frisbee.Where does your dog sleep?Not in your bedroom and especially not on your bed! Your bedroom is a special place - it's your "den". An alpha dog thinks he has a right to sleep in your den because he considers himself your equal. In fact, he may have already taken over your bed, refusing to get off when told or growling and snapping when anyone asks him to make room for the humans. Until your dog's alpha problems are fully under control, the bedroom should be off-limits! The same goes for sleeping on furniture. If you can't keep him off the couch without a fight, deny him access to the room until his behavior and training has improved.Crate-training:Dog crates have 1,000 uses and working with an alpha dog is one of them. It's a great place for your dog to sleep at night, to eat in and just to stay in when he needs to chill out and be reminded that he's a dog. The crate is your dog's "den". Start crate training by feeding him his dinner in his crate. Close the door and let him stay there for an hour afterwards. If he throws a tantrum, ignore him. Don't let your dog out of his crate until he's quiet and settled. At bedtime, show him an irresistable goodie, tell him to SIT and when he does, throw the goodie into the crate. When he dives in for the treat, tell him what a good boy he is and close the door.Graduating from Boot Camp: What's next?Just like in the army, boot camp is really just an introduction to a new career and new way of doing things. A tour through boot camp isn't going to solve your alpha dog's problems forever. It's a way to get basic respect from a dog who's been bullying you without having to resort to physical force.How long should boot camp last? That depends on the dog. Some will show an improvement right away, others may take much longer. For really tough cookies, natural leaders that need constant reminders of their place in the pack, Alpha Dog Boot Camp will become a way of life. Social climbers may need periodic trips through boot camp if you get lax and accidentally let them climb back up a notch or two in the family pack order.How do you know if you're making a difference? If boot camp has been successful, your dog should start looking to you for directions and permission. He'll show an eagerness to please. Watch how your dog approaches and greets you. Does he come to you "standing tall", with his head and ears held high and erect? It may look impressive and proud but it means he's still alpha and you still have problems! A dog who accepts humans as superiors will approach you with his head slightly lowered and his ears back or off to the sides. He'll "shrink" his whole body a little in a show of submission. Watch how he greets all the members of the family. If he displays this submissive posture to some of them, but not others, those are the ones who still need to work on their own alpha posture and methods. They should take him back through another tour of boot camp with support from the rest of the family.Obedience Training:Once your dog has begun to accept this new way of life and his new position in the family, you should take him through an obedience course with a qualified trainer. All dogs need to be trained and alpha dogs need training most of all! You don't have to wait until he's through with boot camp to start this training but it's important that he respects at least one member of the family and is willing to take direction from them.Obedience class teaches you to train your dog. It teaches you how to be alpha, how to enforce commands and rules, how to get respect and to keep it. All family members who are old enough to understand and control the dog should participate in the class.Obedience training is a lifelong process. One obedience course does not a trained dog make! Obedience commands need to be practiced and incorporated into your daily life. In a dog pack, the alpha animal uses occasional reminders to reinforce his authority. Certain commands, like DOWN/STAY, are especially effective, nonviolent reminders of a dog's place in the family pack order and who's really in charge here.A well-trained obedient dog is a happy dog and a joy to live with. Dogs want to please and need a job to do. Training gives them the opportunity to do both. A well-trained dog has more freedom. He can go more places and do more things with you because he knows how to behave. A well-trained dog that's secure in his place within the family pack is comfortable and confident. He knows what's expected of him. He knows his limits and who his leaders are. He's free from the responsibility of running the household and making decisions. He's free to be your loving companion and not your boss. He's free to be a dog - what he was born to be and what he always wanted to be in the first place!
 
Why would an ALPHA do that? ... just asking... maybe your dog is picking up on your fears...


I don’t fear taking him out, to me it’s more of a headache having to deal with him going crazy. He is definitely aware that I am in control of him. I am the one in control, my husband is the playful one I set the rules wit him. He listens pretty well with me. He knows his place it’s just frustrating the way he acts on leash. When he’s running he’s totally fine, it’s our slow walks. He’s always on high alert. He’s an amazing dog, we just need to get past that leash stage
 
Sounds to me like he's not being aggressive, he's just got bad leash manners. Does he know the wait command? He shouldn't get anything he wants without having to wait for it. That will also help calm him down.

Running straight up to another stiff dog will one day turn into a fight if he does that to the wrong dog.

Not wanting water while playing is normal. Shouldn't offer water (or food) while he's playing hard though as it can cause bloat. Frothing at the mouth is pretty normal.[/QUO

When I see another dog approaching I’ll avoid it but if he sees one across the street i usually have him sit and I’ll interact with him to calm him. It doesn’t help when the other dog is going crazy barking at him... he’s such a loving dog though a few times he’s escaped and he’ll run around the neighborhood not caring about other walking dogs. He’ll run right past them.. I’ll have to work more on his leash manners
 
Other dogs reacting doesn't help, but that's why he has to learn to ignore it. Don't let him fixate (getting stiff and staring). Try telling him "leave it" and then keep going like you're on a mission. He will learn if you're not worried then he doesn't need to worry. There will always be the bad dogs of other people to deal with, the only one you can and must control is your own.
 
My guy is 6 months and is very ALERT I will say now, he did have a few outburst that he went into full kill mode (well acted like it anyway) which was totally unacceptable. I actually never corrected the aggressive outburst but worked heavily on impulse control and focusing on me. You can tell now when we encounter strangers he still focuses on them and may begin to growl at most but when I call for him to heel all attention goes to me and we proceed as if we are working on a training exercise at which point I correct him if he doesn’t listen (little trick I picked up here;)) biggest thing would be getting him to train in conditions you will want him to behave in. I have had small training sessions inside of the pet store with duke just because I want the understanding that I expect him to listen at ALL times no matter how random or whatever else is going on, even had to cut people off from loving on him in public to correct behaviors that I do not accept( :rofl: the looks I get when this happens). But he goes home with me and I don’t care that they don’t mind whatever. He has to approach people in a calm manner or we don’t approach , so duke knows to calm down sit or heel position to get the reward of a meet, which he loves being loved on at the vet or pet stores.
 
Being on leash, while a necessary evil, can make dogs feel more vulnerable – naturally feel they have no way of escape.

I'm also reminded of a hilarious video clip I saw on some random TV show. I think the show is called "Highly Questionable." It showed dogs on either side of a driveway gate. They were barking ferociously at each other. Then the gate slowly began to slide open. The barking died out the more the gate opened and eventually each dog left like "ah well."
 
Don't know if this will help but I found this very educational.

Along with what Oji is saying--Doberman Gang posted something in this regard in a thread I was reading: When encountering something potentially stressful, a Doberman's normal response is fight or flight. If he is on a leash, then he knows that flight is not possible so his automatic response is fight/aggression. This may be a legitimate reason for your Doberman's response. He knows there is no option for escape if need be, therefore he goes automatically on the offensive.

In humans, the fight/flight response is instinctive and not controlled through rational thought; it just kinda happens. I would imagine with animals, this instinct is greatly magnified.
 

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