Katyusha and Zastava
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Agree, they are all different, just like dogs. Even the most spooky horses don't usually spook at new dogs or people. They are more socially trusting to strangers than most any animal, but differ wildly if you try to take control. Like they all gather around you for carrots but if you pull the halter and lead rope from behind your back, some will back off (Nope, don't want to be caught, that means work) and some don't care (ah, going to get taken to the barn, maybe an interesting ride in the big world will happen).
I have been noticing a little incontinence in Katyusha lately. Just when she gets up from laying down somewhere. She's not quite 5, so not really elderly at all, she was spayed at 6 months, and haven't ever seen an issue until now. She isn't showing any signs of abnormality or distress. I asked at the clinic Saturday what is the first step, and they asked for a urine sample, and go from there. I got that collected today, and am waiting for results. I hope its nothing serious, and can be treated.
Well that's too bad and I hope you get some answers. Sometimes the spay incontinence doesn't hit for a few years after being spayed but it's normally pretty easy to control. With Della I tried the natural route first but we wound up going with a prescription med since the natural stuff wasn't working.
this gives me hope. Thank you! I don't know much of anything about it, so knowing your experience is really valuable to me.
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Just to ease your mind. My Jazz had spay incontinence for most of her 8yrs of life. Perfectly controlled with a once a week tablet and zero side effects or long term problems. Stylboesterol but that's probably spelled wrong. 
Thank you so much! I definitely can use mind easing right now. If that is what it indeed is, it sounds like a safe, effective, easy fix. I worry so much because I am ignorant of anything about it, plus she's kinda my golden childJust to ease your mind. My Jazz had spay incontinence for most of her 8yrs of life. Perfectly controlled with a once a week tablet and zero side effects or long term problems. Stylboesterol but that's probably spelled wrong.
Heard back from the clinic. The vet I spoke with believes it is spay incontinence. He asked me to watch her and text to the clinic what I see thru the week, as he wants to make sure it is consistent before medicating her. He said it's quite common. I feel relieved.
Yeah…well damn.
Is this to be expected now with female Dobermans being spayed??? Crazy.
This is our story so far.
Still doing Proin 75mg two times a day and all is well.
I didnt read the whole thread in depth but it sounds like what the vet told me exactly over the phone conversation. Loss of estrogen leads to the incontinence, eventually. Katyusha only has it when she's relaxed. Not necessarily sleeping, but a half hour on the couch and I'll notice it, if we have just been cuddling.
the vet said to me that it's not unexpected in spayed dogs, though he did not specify Dobermans as more likely than other breeds.
Great to know! I will read that thread more in depth so I have a grip on what's out there for available treatment options. Thanks for sharing! It's great to have this community, especially in times of worry or concern.
I guess it's always a concern but I've heard the longer you can wait, the less the chances are.
I hadn't heard one way or the other. I blindly spayed Katyusha just after 6 months, and I wish I could go back and wait a while longer for her. For the incontinence reason (because I believe you) but other reasons now recognized as generally good practice. I just didn't know any better. I think she's fine, though, other than what seems to be a safe to treat incontinence.
Reported what I saw to her vet thru the week. She had 3 days i noticed leaking followed by 3 days of dry. Her vet just said that there are a number of different medications we can use, each one with its own risks and rewards. He seemed to indicate that once she starts any of them, it will be treatment for life. We agreed that we will go along putting up with bouts of it until I just can't anymore, then we will talk and decide on a medicine for her. I'm good with that outcome for now.
I would certainly give some of the natural remedies a try to see if they help.
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Thank you!
Are you saying that if one medication didn't work that you couldn't switch to a different one? I thought there were several different brands/kinds of hormone replacement and I'm sure you have to taper off or do gradual changes, but I'd think you could change if one absolutely wasn't working or giving her unwanted side affects. And I think like thyroid, you have to tinker with the amount until you find the sweet spot level that works. No personal experience here, just thoughts.
I am sorry if I implied that we couldn't change a treatment plan. That is something I don't know the answer to because I haven't asked, although it's a great question to ask before we start any of them. I felt like what the vet meant was that once it's bad enough to start a treatment for it, it sounded like what he meant was that that moment will be a turning point where we don't stop treating. How many of those we might try or adjust, I don't know. I feel like it would be a "time will tell" answer.
Thankfully, she has been good lately, I haven't seen any further signs of it since the first few days after contacting the clinic.
ahhh, that makes sense. The troubles with written words vs spoken words.
Hope your girl is just going through a short hormone surge or lack of, or whatever causes this and then just gets normal again!
Changing gears here, but our evaluator just reached out to me and Zastava is set to evaluate for CGCA and CGCU on December 7th at 2pm! I am really excited for this! It's in one of our favorite stores.
Maybe she had a little UTI going on the resolved itself.
