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10 Lessons you learn as a breeder

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10 Lessons from 45 Years as a Breeder
Advice from a long-time dog breeder.
By Kathy Lorentzen | Posted: June 12, 2015 2 p.m. PST
1. Start slow. Regardless of how much you think you know, you probably don’t know very much when you are a fledgling dog breeder. The faster you go, the more mistakes you will make and the more messes you will have to clean up. Plan your first few litters with great care and a lot of help from your mentors, and take the time to watch them grow up before you breed again. Waiting and watching those first litters will fill you with knowledge that you didn’t realize you were missing.

2. Believe in survival of the fittest.This is one of the most difficult lessons a dog breeder must learn but also one of the most critical. Going to great lengths to save a puppy that nature says was not meant to survive brings nothing but heartache. I have yet to see a happy outcome at the end of a monumental attempt to save a dog at all costs.

3. Listen to the opinions of your peers. An opposing opinion from a successful breeder may give you something completely different to think about. Nobody says you have to do what other people tell you, but by all means be open to what they have to say.

4. Don’t succumb to Frequently Used Sire syndrome. It happens all the time. Ten other people bred to a dog, so you think you should breed to him too. Stop and ask yourself why you think you should breed to that dog. Are you familiar with several generations of the dogs in his pedigree? Does he have ancestors in common with your bitch that were strong for the characteristics you are looking for from your litter? Have you had your hands on the dog and a number of his children? Does he (and do his children) have the strengths you are looking for? If he is a total outcross for you, is he even the same style as your bitch? Are you comfortable with not only his health clearances but also those of his parents, grandparents and siblings? Forcing yourself to honestly answer all of these questions may bring you to the conclusion that he is not at all the right dog for your bitch.

5. Listen to your gut, not to your heart. Difficult as it might be, do not let sentimentality enter into your breeding decisions. I don’t care if your best friend has a dog that she wants you to breed to; if he isn’t the right dog, say no. I don’t care if you raised a singleton puppy and are incredibly attached to it; if it isn’t of the quality to move you forward in your breeding program, find a pet home for it. I don’t care if you have two dogs of your own that you absolutely love; if they are not the right match, then don’t breed them to one another. If someone wants to buy a dog from you but your gut is telling you it’s a bad idea, then I will bet you that it is a bad idea. Just say no. Learning to say no is very important. Do not get sucked into anything that your head and your gut tell you is wrong. You can be nice and say no at the same time. It is a word that will serve you well.

6. Create your own stud force. Having watched the most successful breeders in many breeds for 50 years, I firmly believe that your family of dogs will be better if you create your own stud dogs to breed to your own bitches. Make two lines of dogs that are loosely related yet far enough apart so that you can breed them back and forth to one another. Keep the characteristics that you consider critical in your breed prominent in both lines, but differ the style of the two lines somewhat. Example: You cannot keep breeding elegant to elegant to elegant without eventually losing size and substance. If your breed should be strong yet elegant, you can maintain size and substance and also keep the correct amount of elegance if you breed two lines back and forth where one is more elegant and one is more compact, bigger boned and ribbed. The blending of your two lines of dogs will result in a family that has a specific look that will be recognizable as having come from your kennel. Your dogs will breed more true and consistently higher in quality than if you just keep a few brood bitches and continually breed them to the stud dogs around the country that are the flavor of the month.

7. Know how to add new blood to your program. Obviously, you will eventually have to introduce at least a partial outcross into your family of dogs. I learned long ago from a very savvy breeder that the way to do this is to buy the right bitch to bring in to breed to your own stud dogs. Choose very carefully. Buy one that is the same style as your dogs, from a pedigree that has some common ancestors with your dogs and make certain that she (hopefully) will be useful to breed to at least two of your own stud dogs. If you are looking to introduce a characteristic that you think is somewhat lacking in your breeding program, be absolutely certain that not only does the bitch have that characteristic but that she is from a pedigree filled with dogs that had it. Then when you breed her to your dogs, select those that have the characteristic and breed those back into your lines. In this manner, your dogs will not lose their "look,” and you will have introduced some new blood and a new strength to your bloodlines.

8. Look back often, but never go backward. Advances in the use of semen from dogs long dead have given breeders options never before available. It’s one thing to use frozen semen from a dog that was your own or a dog you knew well. It’s quite another to use frozen from a piece of breed history that you never laid eyes on. Predicting the outcome of such a breeding is not possible, and it could be a giant step backward. I also have watched while some breeders have used semen from one of their own deceased dogs over and over and over, which results in a program that never moves forward. The outcome of someone using a particular dog over and over is a decrease in the general quality of their family of dogs. Breeding programs are meant to move forward with each generation, in my opinion, and while an occasional dose of a long-deceased dog might be a wonderful thing to have, I believe that too much can lead to ruination.

9. Deal with your mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes, but it’s what you do about fixing it and trying to never make that same mistake again that defines you as a dog breeder. Keep the best interest of your breed, not just your own dogs, foremost. Follow that path and you will leave your breed healthy, sound and full of quality for the next generation of dog breeders. Honesty is always the best policy in dog breeding. If you create a problem, own up to it and perhaps you will save someone else from the same fate.

10. Be objective about judging.The first thing I would ask you all to do is to remove the word "dumped” from your vocabulary. Just because your dog did not win does not mean that it got dumped. I have always disliked that word and never use it in reference to judging. Train yourself to understand what individual judges are looking for. Different people have different priorities, and understanding those priorities will help you decipher their judging. If you feel that you have a legitimate question about why another dog defeated yours, there is nothing wrong with approaching the judge when on break (with your dog in tow, please) and asking. Please do not open the conversation with, "What didn’t you like about my dog?” Instead, ask why the other dog placed over yours. Try to make the conversation a positive learning experience. If you find that dogs from a particular family consistently defeat yours, sit down and watch those dogs, and try to understand why. If your dogs don’t win, do not immediately think politics. The great majority of the time, it simply isn’t. School yourself in your breed, how to condition, trim and present it to its absolute best, and take a step back and ask yourself if your dogs are truly worthy of winning in good competition. Ask seasoned, successful breeders for advice. We want you to stay in our sport, not get frustrated and leave because your dogs don’t win. We want you to learn, have good dogs and develop into the next generation of knowledgeable dog breeders so that we can breathe easy when we hand the reins of our breed over to you.

From the February 2015 issue of Dogs in Review magazine. Subscribe to receive 12 months of Dogs in Reviewmagazine, or call 1-888-738-2665 to purchase a single copy.

10 Lessons from 45 Years as a Breeder
 
2. Believe in survival of the fittest.
This holds true for a breeder too. Let's face it, it's a dog eat dog world out there and new breeders (or old) are going to be raked over the coals by a lot of critical people. I doubt there's a breeder anywhere who hasn't experienced it at least once, and this holds true for even reputable breeders. If you're thin skinned, it's probably not for you.

8. Look back often, but never go backward. Advances in the use of semen from dogs long dead have given breeders options never before available.
What is the success rate on AI these days? Over the years I've heard it isn't the greatest, but I'm sure there are advances all the time and it does give breeders the option to use semen from a great dog who would otherwise be out of reach.
I know the success rate with livestock is usually very high, so I don't see why it couldn't be with dogs as well.
 
This holds true for a breeder too. Let's face it, it's a dog eat dog world out there and new breeders (or old) are going to be raked over the coals by a lot of critical people.

Good point Jan - it is hard to carry on if you only do it for the money because you will face a lot of challenges and and financial losses. The passion and love of the breed MUST be strong to carry one forward. A big loss in the early years can devastate a new breeder and overwhelm them. Passion and love to move past the heartache and inspite of the criticism is all that can carry you past it. A strong vision - a strong mission - a strong desire to create the perfect ideal Doberman - love and passion.

What is the success rate on AI these days? Over the years I've heard it isn't the greatest, but I'm sure there are advances all the time and it does give breeders the option to use semen from a great dog who would otherwise be out of reach.
I know the success rate with livestock is usually very high, so I don't see why it couldn't be with dogs as well.

AI has improved but it does not come close to the success rate in horses. Shipped semen and frozen is even less productive, but if it is your only option then you will see some folks do a double breeding the DNA test all the puppies for parentage. Doing progestrone test is very expensive depending on how good your vet is. I am fortunate as my vet is truly an expert on dog breeding and sees me through it all. I have a good breeder friend who has a reproductive specialist and she still calls me for advise and to see what my vet says. As in many things I find her specialist makes it way too hard, costly and complicated.

I do wish we had regu-mate for dogs to help regulate cycles and increase conception.
 
This holds true for a breeder too. Let's face it, it's a dog eat dog world out there and new breeders (or old) are going to be raked over the coals by a lot of critical people. I doubt there's a breeder anywhere who hasn't experienced it at least once, and this holds true for even reputable breeders. If you're thin skinned, it's probably not for you.
It gets a little more complicated than that when you administrate a public forum.. and everybody from competing forums gets in line to take their shots.. Death threats from people you dont know need to be taken seriously.. even if they do come from old women.. Those people are whack jobs and its difficult to pretend they are harmless when you have a family to protect and youve seen first hand what they are capable of.. Thin skin is kind of insulting.. Im no coward, But i dont like feuding with fools but with that said its difficult to let those things slide and that makes me equally dangerous and 10 fold retaliation is just the next logical step for me , not a road i wanted or needed to go down... and frankly i didnt like living with so much hate in my heart.. People who dont experience it will never understand it.. Critical isnt the word id use.. I call them dangerous nut job whackos.. If you dont fear crazy then you have never experienced crazy. For the record i wont let them win either.. I dont have any breeding dogs anymore but ill be back i promise.. but i cant promise i won't let them nuts get ome.. All i can do is pray i don't ever retaliate because people would get hurt.. my biggest problem was not worrying avout my own skin it was because i worried about my puppies owners and the BS lies people would spread.. I could never refer a owner to this forum because id worry about what people would say about them.. Im sure you recall how bad a handful of people did to make your wait for Albert a nightmare.. And took all the excitement out of it.. Why would i intentionally put others through what you went through.. And i follow the DPCA COE to a capital T. its not thin skin its frustration.. When you do everything your supposed to and no matter what you cant win.. Its just time to reevaluate whats important in life and living with a rage and hate in myself was not fun and made me a ticking time bomb.
 
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How does a single individual defend himself against defamation perpetrated by dozens of people.. I personally chose to stay silent however that choice turned out to give credence to any and all rumors created by these jack tards.. But had i even attempted to defend myself i would have been quickly overrun by a mass of people joining in to take their shots to.. i was an impossible situation for me when my biggest concern was how these people effected my puppies families.. I couldn't retaliate and not embarrass them at the same time. It was just an impossible situation for me.. Hell even the forum membership started to suffer.. I had to make big choices.. And im fine with them.. Im not defending myself in this post i just think there is way more to it then just being thin skinned.. Breeders are human beings to and none of us like being hated by anyone.. we all deal differently but it effects all of us in one way or another.. Some draw strength from it and others go in to fight or flight mode.. If not for this forum i certainly would have fought.. But for me Doberman Chats reputation was my first priority.. Ans if i would have fought back i would have been embarrassing myself to no end.. Fighting with fools is humiliating even if i do get sucked in from time to time i never enjoy it ever..
 
Breeders are human beings to and none of us like being hated by anyone.. we all deal differently but it effects all of us in one way or another..

Von I hear you on this one. I have families that wax and wane and think I am doing things I have not ever considered or done and then when they finally ask me what I meant we find it was all a big misunderstanding but it hurts and often as a breeder you suffer in silence until they decide to talk to you and get your side. There is way too much judging ones motives and dreaming up why someone did something instead of just asking them for an explanation. You might like it or you might not but everyone deserves a change to explain. Gossip and the rumor mill are something no one can win against. Sometimes you just have to let it go til it comes full circle and then they come to the same conclusion you tried to give them to begin with and they hated you for it. Suddenly it makes sense to them. It comes to the point you have to harden your heart or those you called friends will gladly break it for you. That is when you draw back into your shell and just focus on your wonderful Dobermans and your passion and mission. That is all you have to sustain you in dark times.
 
All these rediculas laws popping up had something to do with it too.. I mean if you even attempt to expand your subject to crippling laws making it impossible to sell a puppy across the country site unseen.. to many bitches and your gonna get inspected, if the inspector doesnt like you you could be labeled a puppy mill or hoarder.. bla bla bla.. I love people on thses forums who are so critical and have zero as in ZERO (0) expierance in raising puppies and less experience with the people they are condemning just because being PC is the flavor of the week and have nothing better to do then judge people they dont even know. They are the real losers.. to every single one of them all i have to say is :finger:
 
All these rediculas laws popping up had something to do with it too

The whole world is eat up with socialistic liberal dual ideas that have proven unsuccessful every place they rear their head and none more so than in animal husbandry. That's for sure.
 
im ok with Liberals.. I have nothing against evolving.. However many cannot even agree to disagree.. And that type of rigidness can be problematic. Just because a person wants to make way for new and different ideas does not mean the old tried and true should be so easily discarded.. Seems the majority of the millennials are not content with the status quo and are using the power of this new phenomenon known as social media to brainwash the easily swayed. Liberals are not the problem its the zealots.
 
Thin skin is kind of insulting.. Im no coward,
Oh I'm not referring to you at all. The thin skinned ones are usually the ones who throw stones because someone said something about them so they have to make false accusations about the next guy to make themselves look good.
Fighting with fools is humiliating even if i do get sucked in from time to time i never enjoy it ever..
You're absolutely right and the more rumors they keep spewing, the dumber they make themselves look. I won't stoop to their level and you didn't either.

Gossip and the rumor mill are something no one can win against. Sometimes you just have to let it go til it comes full circle and then they come to the same conclusion you tried to give them to begin with and they hated you for it. Suddenly it makes sense to them.
This is so true...
 
There are several different ways a breeder can approach it. You can join them - or at least truly investigate them and see what it is all about. I know at first I felt much the same way - folks were very hateful - then the more I learned the more I understood why they were they way they were. TOO many have no clue about what the dog fancy is really all about - BREEDING purebred to IMPROVE the gene pool. It says nothing about winning and competing but man's nature is to compete and it does give one a way to evaluate the dog and learn from the dog both about conformation and temperament.. But conpetition brings in the green eyed monster and the desire to be better then soon better than everyone else. Then some cheat to win - and all the good is lost. We must always be good sports win or loose.

As far as not wanting them to join here, I see it as loving them enough to let them go and if they are true they will return. I want to see my families grow and learn and then we can have an intelligent discussion. I will say you have to be strong and true to your beliefs and be open to them taking on different perspectives and challenging you to grow yourself. But with today's internet you can't keep them "in the dark" so to speak anyway. I have no problem with them embracing another side as they usually see through it at some point.

I prefer an open approach - sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't but it is always a learning process for sure.
 

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