Dog attacks grizzly article

[Ravenbird]

Well, not really attack, but ran at the bear when it was charging his owner. Saw on Landgraf FB page it was one of theirs.

‘A very brave dog’: Alberta Doberman honoured for saving owner from grizzly bear

A Cochrane man’s 10-year-old Doberman has been inducted into the Purina Animal Hall of Fame after saving him from a charging grizzly bear last spring.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[BGpa]

Great story.

"While Night’s courage is being celebrated, wildlife experts caution that such encounters usually end very differently.

“I want to ensure the right message gets out,” said Kim Titchener, founder of Bear Safety & More and a long-time educator on human-wildlife conflict.

“It is rare that a dog off-leash chasing a bear turns into a happy ending like this one. I’m really happy and grateful for them, but generally, these interactions actually cause some pretty serious issues, such as people getting injured or even killed.”

According to Titchener, most incidents involving dogs escalate danger rather than reduce it.

“Generally, what we see is the dog runs ahead on the trail, they stumble upon a bear and the bear gets defensive,” she said.

“The dog usually comes back to the owner, and when the bear sees the person, they see them as an even bigger threat and then attack the person. That’s generally what happens. This is one in a million — a very lucky situation.”

She advises dog owners to leash their pets in bear country and to travel in groups whenever possible.

“If you are going to bring a dog with you, put it on a leash and go in a group,” Titchener said."

 

[BGpa]

Moose injure more people than bears, btw

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From the article
"Dogs can surprise moose in backyards, and loose dogs may chase or bark at them. Moose view dogs as enemies and will sometimes go out of their way to kick at one, even if the dog is on a leash or in a fenced yard. Give moose an extremely wide berth if you have a dog with you and don't let your dog chase a moose."

And from Utah DWR:
"DWR Wildlife Section Chief Covy Jones says, "In my years of working with wildlife, I have dealt with bears, rattlesnakes, cougars and moose, and the only species that I've had turn and come back at me was a moose. People often underestimate how aggressive they can be… "

How to Keep Yourself and Your Dog Safe If You Come Across a Moose | GreaterGood

While they're not typically aggressive, moose do cause injuries to people each year. If you follow some basic tips, though, you, the moose, and your dog should get through an encounter unscathed.

greatergood.com

 

[Ravenbird]

I agree, and would not ever put my dog into that position on purpose, but thought it was interesting in light of our other thread about bears.

Agree about moose too, although I don't live in moose or bison country, I know from general wildlife articles that those if those guys get mad, they stay mad! Can't believe the Yellowstone incidents over & over after visitors are told and told!

Also, wanted to mention that Landgraf is a very reputable working dog breeder and has been for years. Only one or two litters a year and actually exports some puppies to Europe, so doesn't dock or crop until owners are matched with pups.

 

[JanS]

I know from general wildlife articles that those if those guys get mad, they stay mad! Can't believe the Yellowstone incidents over & over after visitors are told and told!

So true. We don't have bison around here (except farmed ones) but moose can be pretty dangerous; especially during the rutting season. If they get annoyed because you were there they can flip a car, truck or camper over effortlessly. For some of the dumb asses who want a selfie with a bison, they are just asking for it.

 

[BGpa]

I agree, and would not ever put my dog into that position on purpose, but thought it was interesting in light of our other thread about bears.

Agree about moose too, although I don't live in moose or bison country, I know from general wildlife articles that those if those guys get mad, they stay mad! Can't believe the Yellowstone incidents over & over after visitors are told and told!

Also, wanted to mention that Landgraf is a very reputable working dog breeder and has been for years. Only one or two litters a year and actually exports some puppies to Europe, so doesn't dock or crop until owners are matched with pups.

Thanks for the Landgraf tip!

 

[GennyB]

Thanks for the Landgraf tip!

You should look her up. Her name is Wendy Schmitt. She is an amazing handler! To see her handle a dog is unbelievable! I saw her at UDC Nationals one year and needless to say she cleaned up with HIT. Most people watching were speechless and I would imagine other competitors just wanted to pack up and go home.

 

[Ravenbird]

Thanks for the Landgraf tip!

Also I contacted her when I was looking for my future puppy and she was one of very few who answered back. So many breeders that never replied at all, I never forgot that she was polite enough to thank me for reaching out but they had no litters planned for the next year.

 

[BGpa]

Thank you!
I will definitely do so.
Very impressive creds.

vom Landgraf - United Doberman Club

Wendy SchmittSacramento, [email protected]/ Landgraf Working Dobermanns: where we have produced National and Regional IPO3 and FH Champions. We strive to produce the ultimate working dog throughcorrect working Temperament, complete health testing and functional...

uniteddobermanclub.com

 

[BGpa]

I agree, and would not ever put my dog into that position on purpose, but thought it was interesting in light of our other thread about bears.

Agree about moose too, although I don't live in moose or bison country, I know from general wildlife articles that those if those guys get mad, they stay mad! Can't believe the Yellowstone incidents over & over after visitors are told and told!

Also, wanted to mention that Landgraf is a very reputable working dog breeder and has been for years. Only one or two litters a year and actually exports some puppies to Europe, so doesn't dock or crop until owners are matched with pups.

@RavenbirdYes, on your cautions and I remember your posts about the javelina...

Now lets do Mountain Lion!

Mountain Lion Safety | U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service

Here are 10 things you can do to stay safe in mountain lion habitat 1. When it comes to personal safety, always be aware of your surroundings, wherever you are; conduct yourself and attend to children and dependents accordingly. 2. If you encounter a cougar, make yourself appear larger, more...

www.fws.gov

Anyone got a good story about dobes and cougars?

 

[BGpa]

And here's a fun one on coyotes:

 

[JanS]

And here's a fun one on coyotes:

Coyotes really aren't that big but they do have that strategy shown in the video. I'm not sure they could take a Doberman but they could give it a fight.

Anyone got a good story about dobes and cougars?

Not Dobermans, but a lady about 50 miles from here, who we got a horse from had a cougar come in and attack her horses, so they had some pretty big scratch gouges taken out of their backs.
This is the article but it's blocked.

Increase in cougar sitings worries many northern Minnesota farmers

GRAND RAPIDS, Minn. (AP) -- Farmers in the Grand Rapids area are keeping a close watch on their livestock after several horses were injured in cougar attacks.

www.postbulletin.com

 

[BGpa]

Coyotes really aren't that big but they do have that strategy shown in the video. I'm not sure they could take a Doberman but they could give it a fight.

Not Dobermans, but a lady about 50 miles from here, who we got a horse from had a cougar come in and attack her horses, so they had some pretty big scratch gouges taken out of their backs.
This is the article but it's blocked.

Increase in cougar sitings worries many northern Minnesota farmers

GRAND RAPIDS, Minn. (AP) -- Farmers in the Grand Rapids area are keeping a close watch on their livestock after several horses were injured in cougar attacks.

www.postbulletin.com

That was a good read, thanks (worked good on Brave browser)
I've read that cougars are slowly expanding their range.
Good book if you've never read it;

The Beast in the Garden: The True Story of a Predator's…

When residents of Boulder, Colorado, suddenly began to …

www.goodreads.com

 

[Ddski5]

I was very happy and proud that I was able to call off Ragnar and Freyja off coyotes at the wood line one time- probably 50yd away. Freyja called off good, Rag needed the ECollar.

 

[BGpa]

We had a coyote den in a patch of woods nearby for two years running, then two years not.

Last nite there were 4-5 out on that hillside judging by the eyeshine...not far from where we have our morning coffee, so Bonnie's on the long line for a few days.

I've had big dogs in this area for 30 years, hiking, trail running off leash and we give the songdogs their space, ie; stay away from their dens, and they treat us the same, as they are generally just moving thru, hunting for mice etc...

but if trail hiking I'm also carrying at a minimum a good quality adjustable metal tipped trekking pole, and pepper spray ...never had to use it...

Those are more for the dog- or person-aggressive stray dog off leash that HAVE attacked...

and if a juvenile yote gets too curious, we "push" them, inc at nite - the ones who approach, by moving at them with a big voice and a strong flashlight, until they break and move off- to "habituate" them- to stay away from our property, my kids and wife and dogs.

Bonnie is too young, inexperienced to handle one alone. So she's on leash or e-collar for bulletproof recall as needed.

 

[JanS]

We had a coyote den in a patch of woods nearby for two years running, then two years not.

We almost never see or hear coyotes here because we have the big wolves in the area and they normally don't coexist together.

 

[BGpa]

We almost never see or hear coyotes here because we have the big wolves in the area and they normally don't coexist together.

Those the gray wolves?
Serious respect given to them...

Wolves and Coyotes in Minnesota: A closer look at two iconic canines — Voyageurs Conservancy

Written by Maeve Rogers, Wolf Predation & Research Technician In the expansive wilderness of Minnesota, where forests stretch as far as the eye can see and the haunting howls of predators echo through the night. Venture along the main highway bordering Voyageurs National Park at night, and

www.voyageurs.org

Reading a fascinating book now about Coyotes:

Coyote America: A Natural and Supernatural History

The New York Times best-selling account of how coyotes-…

www.goodreads.com

 

[JanS]

Those the gray wolves?
Serious respect given to them...

Yes they are gray wolves but many of us around here call them timber wolves.

Edit to add: here is a little video of them from our trail cameras quite a few years ago; all on our property.

 

[MyBuddy]

Yes they are gray wolves but many of us around here call them timber wolves.

Timber Wolf. I haven't heard that term in so long, but boy that sure stirred up memories. Not I've seen them but just of hearing that term. Funny how I haven't heard it in so long. It must be that most people say gray wolf or whatever. Never Timberwolf anymore.

I haven't seen a coyote here since spring. Once in a while we hear them at night but so far not an actual sighting for a long time. Now watch. I'll probably see one tonight LOL

And here's a fun one on coyotes:

And like in this video, I was often told the ploy of a coyote was sometimes to send a female out to lure a male dog into the pack. I always worried about that with Buddy. Funny how even the animals know a thing or two about a honey pot!

 

[Ravenbird]

Reading a fascinating book now about Coyotes:

I'll have to check it out. Dan Flores has written about many things and places that I've seen and lived around.

My favorite book on wolves is Of Wolves and Men by Barry Lopez. I still have my old copy, past due to re-read it...