Doberman Gang
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Great job by this guy
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One question.....how did HER video get posted on the 'other' end of the argument? Or was she just testing someone (place)?
I also wonder what kind of dog she had.
She was very annoying and just didn't get what he meant when he asked for 'a specific act'!! Just being an emotional support isn't it! I like having my dog with me too.
That doesn't mean he's a Service Dog. SMH
I also wonder what kind of dog she had.
She was very annoying and just didn't get what he meant when he asked for 'a specific act'!! Just being an emotional support isn't it! I like having my dog with me too.
That doesn't mean he's a Service Dog. SMH
LifeofRubie
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We were at our favorite brewery the other day that no longer allows dogs but some lady had her trembling little yorkie-something in there with his "service dog" collar on. I really wanted to ask her what service that dog provided.
I know a lot of people have invisible diseases; one of our Dobe friends is a service dog to a seemingly perfectly healthy, tall, young, vibrant blonde! She does have a heart condition though that he ALERTS her to so I try to be understanding with others... but a trembling little lap rat (on a retractable leash!)... hard pressed to believe it.
Because people who abuse the Service Dog title 100% believe that what she is saying is legitimate and she was looking for HOW DARE THEY DENY MY DOG ENTRY sympathy.
120 hours of training
I know a lot of people have invisible diseases; one of our Dobe friends is a service dog to a seemingly perfectly healthy, tall, young, vibrant blonde! She does have a heart condition though that he ALERTS her to so I try to be understanding with others... but a trembling little lap rat (on a retractable leash!)... hard pressed to believe it.
Because people who abuse the Service Dog title 100% believe that what she is saying is legitimate and she was looking for HOW DARE THEY DENY MY DOG ENTRY sympathy.
120 hours of training
Kaiser2016
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Exactly!
120 hours of training?!? That won’t get you a lollipop or a participation ribbon. The twins have been in training since they were 4mo old on a weekly basis multiple times a week, except after Hurricane Irma where they went several months without professional training due to storm clean up. They are now 3yrs 3mo. and are in intense daily training to be all they can be before we move to Roatan.
That is just under 800hrs of professional training per dog.. As far as certifications, I did not think there is a registry for Service Dogs or ESA unless of course you buy all the fake credentials online.
Like @MyBuddy said, I wonder what kind of dog she had?
That is just under 800hrs of professional training per dog.. As far as certifications, I did not think there is a registry for Service Dogs or ESA unless of course you buy all the fake credentials online.
Like @MyBuddy said, I wonder what kind of dog she had?
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Steveh0429
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I got my Dobie at 9 weeks old and have been training him since day one. He just turned a year old although he's doing great service dog he's not!
But whoever posted it was on the side of the gentleman. Unless maybe she posted it to more or less expose him and then someone else shared it to commend the guy. I don't do Facebook so I'm not really up how it works with all this sharing stuff.
Doberman Gang
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She was the one recording it, so I am sure it was originally her post trying to prove her point but it might have back fired, since it continues to get reposted over and over. LolBut whoever posted it was on the side of the gentleman. Unless maybe she posted it to more or less expose him and then someone else shared it to commend the guy. I don't do Facebook so I'm not really up how it works with all this sharing stuff.
Panama
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Then man asked (legally) what service the dog provides...... she didn't have a valid answer.... DENIED
If she was truly in need of a SERVICE DOG and faced with that situation, she would not have been such twit about it. If her dog was in fact a legitimate Service Dog, I think she would have handled it differently. Even when the man emphasized that the dog must be trained to perform a specific task (which he can legally ask what task) she still stuck with "emotional support".
I don't rule out lap dogs as service dogs. I have a guest that stays at our hotel 1 wknd a month, she has a Yorkie that alerts her when her blood sugar drops. But no, she isn't on a stupid flexi
If she was truly in need of a SERVICE DOG and faced with that situation, she would not have been such twit about it. If her dog was in fact a legitimate Service Dog, I think she would have handled it differently. Even when the man emphasized that the dog must be trained to perform a specific task (which he can legally ask what task) she still stuck with "emotional support".
I don't rule out lap dogs as service dogs. I have a guest that stays at our hotel 1 wknd a month, she has a Yorkie that alerts her when her blood sugar drops. But no, she isn't on a stupid flexi
Atingles10
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This lady 
She tries to intimidate him, he’s having none of it! Good for him. It’s pretty clear that the dog is NOT a service dog, he’s an emotional support dog which have NO public access in areas where dogs aren’t allowed. I think he dealt with the situation perfectly. Kudos to him!
“So again, what is the dog specifically trained to do? Task or skill?”
“She provides emotional support!”
“So again, what is the dog specifically trained to do? Task or skill?”
“She provides emotional support!”
I guess all she had to do was lie and say something in the right area? Like say that when the dog senses a panic attack coming on, it presses hard on her body for compression to reduce muscle tension??
The man technically would not know what the dogs task was but because the dog was not a true service dog, she had no idea how to respond.
The man technically would not know what the dogs task was but because the dog was not a true service dog, she had no idea how to respond.
Kaiser2016
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She’s too lazy to even look up a good response!
Brioddy
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Not to play devils advocate, but surely there are instances where an ESA animal is truly helpful? I do agree that most abuse the title for added privileges to bring their pet along. Although ESA only really allows your pet to fly with you I think? I know it doesn’t permit them to enter otherwise public non animal friendly areas.
I wish more places would educate themselves as well as their employees about the use of service dogs. I believe it would cut down on the abuse. If you read through the service dog section on the ADA website it becomes crystal clear what a service dog is.
In my opinion (speaking from experience) overall ESA's and more specifically, their owners ruin it for true service dogs. People bring these dogs into places they shouldn't be. They come in barking, jumping on people and begging for food. They are allowed to be petted, a big no no for true service dog. But the biggie is there have been numerous reports of bites from ESA's, some pretty serious. So do establishments understand the difference, NO! They would rather allow the troublemaker dog in over a true service dog. Why? Because the ESA's are engaging with the crowd. So often the ridiculous behavior is seen as cute. People are offended by a service dogs when you say they can't be petted, they pay absolutely no attention to anyone but their handler and ignore ALL distractions.
There numerous way they can be helpful. The problem is no training is required, they are there to comfort. That said, they can undergo training (much more than 120 hours) to become legit service dogs. One example is being trained to alert the handler a panic attack is about to happen.
I would suggest to our members that they read the ADA website and make themselves familiar with the laws and protections set forth for service dogs and their handlers. You might be able to help a disabled person avoid the harassment they often have to endure. ADA Service Dog Laws (2018)
In my opinion (speaking from experience) overall ESA's and more specifically, their owners ruin it for true service dogs. People bring these dogs into places they shouldn't be. They come in barking, jumping on people and begging for food. They are allowed to be petted, a big no no for true service dog. But the biggie is there have been numerous reports of bites from ESA's, some pretty serious. So do establishments understand the difference, NO! They would rather allow the troublemaker dog in over a true service dog. Why? Because the ESA's are engaging with the crowd. So often the ridiculous behavior is seen as cute. People are offended by a service dogs when you say they can't be petted, they pay absolutely no attention to anyone but their handler and ignore ALL distractions.
There numerous way they can be helpful. The problem is no training is required, they are there to comfort. That said, they can undergo training (much more than 120 hours) to become legit service dogs. One example is being trained to alert the handler a panic attack is about to happen.
I would suggest to our members that they read the ADA website and make themselves familiar with the laws and protections set forth for service dogs and their handlers. You might be able to help a disabled person avoid the harassment they often have to endure. ADA Service Dog Laws (2018)
Wasn’t there something recently where an ESA (dog) mauled a passenger on a plane? 
