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Looking For NC/VA/MD/Eastern Shore Breeder

I think it's more common in working lines and what @Drogon is referring to. Owners want to compete internationally and only natural dogs can compete in some other countries.
That is the reason that my current breeder (working) gave me – the possibility of competing overseas – for their no longer cropping/docking. Beyond that, based on their social media posts, they also have just become a fan of ears and tails. I certainly don't share their opinion on this, but I do appreciate them as an open, honest, quality, responsive, accomplished breeder of working Dobermanns. I would not recommend them to you, as the price is above what you're looking to pay, and frankly, I don't like the appearance of what they produce and some other qualities; and they are working Dobes which you really have to want, or they'll just be a giant pain.
 
If a breeder is breeding for potential show pups, they won't know at 3 days of age who to dock and who not to. I can kind of understand the ears, because by 8 wks, they should know who will go to a pet/companion home.
Often breeders have the puppies spoken for (sold) before they're even born. Additionally while the tail is most often docked at only a few days old, it can be docked at the same time the ears are done (8 weeks).
 
Often breeders have the puppies spoken for (sold) before they're even born. Additionally while the tail is most often docked at only a few days old, it can be docked at the same time the ears are done (8 weeks).

I can see a nip & tuck to correct a scar at 8 wks, but not an amputation. I've seen several imports from Poland & Spain that had to be docked after arriving (16 wks) and they had a heck of a time getting them to heal. I'm sure there are others that have had no problems at all.
 
I can see a nip & tuck to correct a scar at 8 wks, but not an amputation. I've seen several imports from Poland & Spain that had to be docked after arriving (16 wks) and they had a heck of a time getting them to heal. I'm sure there are others that have had no problems at all.
Fury didn't have his docked until 8 weeks when he had his ears done. Only issue was he pulled the stitches out once before it was completely healed.
 
Fury didn't have his docked until 8 weeks when he had his ears done. Only issue was he pulled the stitches out once before it was completely healed.

If you were going to dock a litter, but someone wanted a pup left natural, how would you select which one to leave natural?
 
If you were going to dock a litter, but someone wanted a pup left natural, how would you select which one to leave natural?


The pups aren't docked until 8 weeks or so when ears are done. When I was looking for my last pup, I learned that some breeders (more working) in the States are waiting to dock because you get a better idea of where the 2 joint instead of having to have fixed when the ears are done. Also less risk of Mom licking the site open when cleaning her pups.
 
Are you saying it's something that's not hard to do by yourself? Alot of the videos I've watched always show 2 people and the dog pulling back a bit. I live alone currently so I wouldn't have the second set of hands to help.

Honestly once the pup gets used to the process they usually do well sitting still. I bought my first dobe almost 2 yrs ago and we do our own posting after the vet had no clue about aftercare. After the first few times and getting the right materials, etc... it didn't bother him at all messing with them.

Best of luck and welcome from Michigan!

P.s. you found the best site for doberman lovers and owners alike!!
 
Did you find a breeder? I got mine from a vet/ breeder .she's more than excellent. She shows her champions as well. She's in Sumpter County, FL.
 
Wow, thanks for all the replies and detailed responses, I really appreciate it. I stopped getting notifications for new replies so I didnt realize anyone new posted. Sorry for the delay in posting back.

I think I may have decided to get one from someone I had been talking to for a few weeks. I'm still on the edge for ears, I really want to do them but question if I will run into issues. How many days of constant supervision do they need after the surgery to prevent them from seriously messing something up? I work 8 hours a day is why I ask, but could plan it for a Friday and then have the weekend plus a few days at the beginning of the week off if need be.

On a side note, anyone know of any reputable vets that do the surgery in hampton roads VA or northeast NC? Shes about 8 weeks now - one vet I talked to said they wont do them until 12 weeks.
 
If you're dealing with someone that sells pups uncropped, please find an ethical breeder near you. They can recommend a vet that can do a proper crop. Most probably use Leigh McBride (FL) or Ann Midgarden (OH), but they might know someone in your area that can help.

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If you're dealing with someone that sells pups uncropped, please find an ethical breeder near you. They can recommend a vet that can do a proper crop. Most probably use Leigh McBride (FL) or Ann Midgarden (OH), but they might know someone in your area that can help.

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Leigh McBride is awesome! She did both of my dogs ear crop. Very good outcomes.
 

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