Would your Doberman willingly go with a stranger?

[Kaiser2016]

Socialization means, in public with me, giving me attention and learning that there can be other people around while this is going on. Not to take your dog out to be social with strangers. It builds there confidence and let's them be at ease around strangers, kids and other dogs but attention is still on me.

Ya, I think I mixed up the meaning of socialization vs socializing. On our city walks he can usually do a proper heel walk with attention on us. Although in his early socialization we did not consciously or actively encourage the attention to be on us. We are not approached very often, but that really changes on trails/hikes. In these situations Kaiser has been able to meet and interact with friendly strangers, which is why I was expressing some concern over him meeting a lot of people.

 

[Kaiser2016]

Blaze hates it if you talk baby talk to him, he will try to bite you. Also if you yell at him he will try to bite you. Pretty much have to talk in a calm assertive manner with him. Ha ha I sound like Caesar

I find I baby talk boy dogs the most. With females, I just expect them to comply. Do you find that difference with your females? Cesar Milan was really on to something there! Yelling scares Kaiser but it in no way stops him from trying again haha.

 

[Kaiser2016]

I recently volunteered with Maeve at the Doberman Rescue Unlimited picnic. I was with my trainer and Maeve was the distraction dog while my trainer tested candidates for the CGC. Part of the test is to leave your dog with us and go out of sight for 3 minutes. Maeve tested first, I left and watched her from behind a nearby building. She was anxious to find me, pulling and ignoring the trainer. I thought it was just her, but the 15 other dobes that were tested most acted in a similar manner. Anxious and searching. We baby talked them and had no effect on them. I think dobes have their person and get very attached.

How timely! I was saying it's too bad we can't test the dogs but it looks like you already have. So when Maeve was anxiously searching was she whining as well? And all dogs stayed put despite their owners being out of sight? That gives me hope that if Kaiser and I got separated somehow, he wouldn't go running around searching. Regardless we have walked every street and back lane/alley in the neighborhood just to be sure. I definitely agree that Dobes have their favorite person (and I'm not it!).

 

[Doberman Gang]

I find I baby talk boy dogs the most. With females, I just expect them to comply. Do you find that difference with your females? Cesar Milan was really on to something there! Yelling scares Kaiser but it in no way stops him from trying again haha.

I try to remain calm with all of my commands and when I talk to my dogs. I do sometimes yell if they are getting into something they shouldn't but it is a reaction not something I do on purpose. Prada and Blaze are similar in how they react to things. Both are hard headed and need strong firm correcting. Redman complies much quicker but he is 8 and knows better. Lol

 

[blacknrust]

How timely! I was saying it's too bad we can't test the dogs but it looks like you already have. So when Maeve was anxiously searching was she whining as well? And all dogs stayed put despite their owners being out of sight?

The dogs are on leash for the 3 minutes. No whining from Maeve but I definitely think she would have searched me out if given the chance.

My first dobes favorite person was my husband even though he spent the most time with me.

 

[Kaiser2016]

Redman complies much quicker but he is 8 and knows better. Lol

At the age of 8 he had better comply faster!

 

[Kaiser2016]

My first dobes favorite person was my husband even though he spent the most time with me.

With a male dog I was expecting to be his fave, but it's my husband. The dog loves him. The cat loves him. He's not very popular with humans though

 

[Gelcoater]

I try to remain calm with all of my commands and when I talk to my dogs. I do sometimes yell if they are getting into something they shouldn't but it is a reaction not something I do on purpose. Prada and Blaze are similar in how they react to things. Both are hard headed and need strong firm correcting. Redman complies much quicker but he is 8 and knows better. Lol

Yep, lol. Pretty much. But.
Sometimes I do yell on purpose, otherwise he wouldn't hear me over his own loud mouth!

Both of mine were pretty similar with how they reacted too for the most part.
Both had strengths and weaknesses but overall similar.

Daisy was much harder headed in most ways as far as obedience but had a much more snappy recall.
Literally one snap of the finger. Not even a word.

Rocky's recall attitude is the "I'll get there in a second, man. Did you smell this? OMG! There was a bitch over here....".

I find Rocky is a bit more sensitive to correction.
More fear reaction where Daisy would just pout.

They both in there heads have the idea that if they don't look at me while they try to slink out of the room with a napkin or plastic fruit cup, etc... That I can't see them? Lol.

 

[MyBuddy]

Rocky's recall attitude is the "I'll get there in a second, man. Did you smell this? OMG! There was a bitch over here....".

 

[salisa826]

Denali might go with a stranger but would want to pull towards where I am. I’ve handed the leash to ppl he knows and he will watch for my return the whole time

 

[Oh Little Oji]

Would be an interesting test if you could find a willing 'stranger!'

I have, for years, wanted/needed willing strangers (no, I'm not going to a funny place here, so make your own jokes if you please).

With my first Dobe, I was wanting to work on him being tied out (and on a stay – something I don't know if I'll ever achieve with my current boy, Oji) and not being tempted by passers by. I asked a friend of my sister to help me. This person had not interacted with him before, and was not going to be interacting with him in the future. I asked if, as he was tied to a tree and on a sit-stay she would walk by, offer him a treat then throw a cup of water in his face if he reached for it, then walk away and disappear.

She was not willing.

 

[MyBuddy]

I have, for years, wanted/needed willing strangers (no, I'm not going to a funny place here, so make your own jokes if you please).

I have also!! In my case, it was with my first Doberman, Duke (although I would love to try it now with Buddy, for sure!)

Duke was very attached to me, borderline anxiety separation, but thankfully not to any extent. He did not tear things up, did not whine excessively, and could be left alone without a problem. But we were attached at the hip, for sure.

If we were all outside and I went inside alone and later the rest of the family and Duke came in, he would race through the house like a madman trying to find me! It got to be fun for me to hide and have him find me! He Always did!! Always. And I would stay hidden until he would bark, alerting the family where I was and they would come and open the door to where I was (usually a closet! lol ) I always told my husband that if something happened to me, all he had to do was ask Duke, "Where's Mom?" That dog knew all of our names! Me:Mom Hubbyaddy and he knew the kids by name! That's how it is with kids in the house. Now with no kids at home anymore we don't say that! We will never forget sitting around and I asked Duke, "Where's (my daughter's name)" Like in slow motion, he slowly turned to look at her!! It was the funniest thing ever!! And she was not home that much before of college, so we were amazed that he knew and recognized her name!

Later, I got the idea that I would LOVE to see if Duke could tell if someone 'different' was in the house! An intruder! I wanted to see if we all left the house and had someone that he never met before, come in and hide. Would he be able to tell instantly when he went in the house? and would he seek him/her out?

But, I'll be damned if I could find a 'subject' for my experiment!!! sh*ts

 

[Oh Little Oji]

I have also!! In my case, it was with my first Doberman, Duke (although I would love to try it now with Buddy, for sure!)

Duke was very attached to me, borderline anxiety separation, but thankfully not to any extent. He did not tear things up, did not whine excessively, and could be left alone without a problem. But we were attached at the hip, for sure.

If we were all outside and I went inside alone and later the rest of the family and Duke came in, he would race through the house like a madman trying to find me! It got to be fun for me to hide and have him find me! He Always did!! Always. And I would stay hidden until he would bark, alerting the family where I was and they would come and open the door to where I was (usually a closet! lol ) I always told my husband that if something happened to me, all he had to do was ask Duke, "Where's Mom?" That dog knew all of our names! Me:Mom Hubbyaddy and he knew the kids by name! That's how it is with kids in the house. Now with no kids at home anymore we don't say that! We will never forget sitting around and I asked Duke, "Where's (my daughter's name)" Like in slow motion, he slowly turned to look at her!! It was the funniest thing ever!! And she was not home that much before of college, so we were amazed that he knew and recognized her name!

Later, I got the idea that I would LOVE to see if Duke could tell if someone 'different' was in the house! An intruder! I wanted to see if we all left the house and had someone that he never met before, come in and hide. Would he be able to tell instantly when he went in the house? and would he seek him/her out?

But, I'll be damned if I could find a 'subject' for my experiment!!! sh*ts

Reminds me of when my wife unexpectedly went into labor after we had taken her to the hospital for unusual pains during the night. Our precious little powerhouse would not be denied and was coming that morning! So we were in the hospital that day, that night and I think the following night (baby stayed much much longer) – with both of our dogs in our backyard with just their doghouses which were in a secure, comfy shaded area near the house. A friend & her husband visited us. We asked if they would go and set out some water, sneaking out the basement and just setting the bowl out on the ground quickly and shutting the door. Not willing.

Names: Oji is pretty good at knowing my wife and daughter's names and going to them when told to. I really must remember to do the fun work of having Oji search for them hiding in the house – and at least in the case of my daughter – hiding somewhere outside and even down the street (of course I'd have to have my wife be with her for that last part).

Down memory lane again: I was just dating my wife at the time. I had just left her house, having to tucked her in, and was heading back to my apartment with Magnum in the car with me. I got a phone call while I was still in the neighborhood. She heard a strange noise in the house – sounded like someone was in the house! I turned right around of course, with a plan to have Magnum search the house. That's what we did, starting with her bedroom and moving out – basement and attic & all. Magnum knew how to search with a suspicious mindset. I had my ears open wide and was on high alert myself. I was almost hoping Magnum would find someone, as it would have been a beautiful sight, if somewhat traumatic for my wife to hear.

 

[Doberman Gang]

Ya, I think I mixed up the meaning of socialization vs socializing. On our city walks he can usually do a proper heel walk with attention on us. Although in his early socialization we did not consciously or actively encourage the attention to be on us. We are not approached very often, but that really changes on trails/hikes. In these situations Kaiser has been able to meet and interact with friendly strangers, which is why I was expressing some concern over him meeting a lot of people.

My dogs must behave around other people and dogs but I do not let them interact with them. The exception being people who train in my club will sometimes pet or interact with them at training but I also need people to hold my dogs during training sometimes. Sometimes it takes two people to hold them. Lol

 

[Kaiser2016]

With my first Dobe, I was wanting to work on him being tied out (and on a stay - I asked if, as he was tied to a tree and on a sit-stay she would walk by, offer him a treat then throw a cup of water in his face if he reached for it, then walk away and disappear.

She was not willing.

I don't know how you come up with these scenarios but I like it

Twisted yet purposeful.

 

[Kaiser2016]

memory lane again: I was almost hoping Magnum would find someone, as it would have been a beautiful sight, if somewhat traumatic for my wife to hear.

You're on a roll!

Memory lane is always fun

 

[Kaiser2016]

Later, I got the idea that I would LOVE to see if Duke could tell if someone 'different' was in the house! An intruder! I wanted to see if we all left the house and had someone that he never met before, come in and hide. Would he be able to tell instantly when he went in the house? and would he seek him/her out?

But, I'll be damned if I could find a 'subject' for my experiment!!! sh*ts

Awesome idea! Funny that no one would risk that experiment with these dogs. I trust Kaiser to never bite anyone, but I still wouldn't risk it haha. Maybe I could wear a face mask and baggy clothes, hold a piece of cheese, and wait for Kaiser to find me in the yard! On second thought maybe I'll get my hb to do that

 

[Kaiser2016]

My dogs must behave around other people and dogs but I do not let them interact with them. Sometimes it takes two people to hold them. LolView attachment 76212

Now I realize why you have often referred to your dogs as crazy that pic of Blaze and his intense focus is still impressive, but now it's also scary!

 

[MyBuddy]

Awesome idea! Funny that no one would risk that experiment with these dogs. I trust Kaiser to never bite anyone, but I still wouldn't risk it haha. Maybe I could wear a face mask and baggy clothes, hold a piece of cheese, and wait for Kaiser to find me in the yard! On second thought maybe I'll get my hb to do that

Hmmm..........I did something like that once! LOL!! Only it wasn't planned! Check out this thread from way back in 2009! Buddy was only about a year old or so!

LOL! I don't think this passes the 'weirdly dressed stranger' test!

 

[Tropicalbri's]

I have no doubt in my mind that my two pups WILL NOT go with anyone other than myself, husband and possibly their trainer and that is a big IF on going with trainer.

I do not have internet yet so I have driven and hobbled to a portable ATT bus on BPK to get online for a bit.

These two have grown up a LOT in the last 19 days having to deal with all the stresses this hurricane presented them with and the stresses continue and will for the next 6mo.
They have proven themselves many times over but the last week has been an eye opener for me. People that they have known for most of their life absolutely cannot come onto our property without us physically walking them in. Strangers stand no cool chance in hell of getting a foot on the property without them both verbally objecting with a stance to back up those objections.
I had one of my ex workers come into the downstairs at dawn (still mostly dark out) to grab one of my chain saws. Bogie heard it and jumped the gate on front door and was downstairs within a split second and had him backed into the stair well. He did not bite but his barking, growling and overall demeanor had this guy terrified. Bogie held him there until I got downstairs and turned on the lights. I did not feel sorry for the guy because I specifically said not to come on property without calling me first. He has known Bogie since he was 9wks old.
Bogie was doing his job. I can say with confidence that should anyone try to take either of my dogs it would not end well.