I would think plenty of people would try to stick fingers or food into the crates.
Would your Doberman willingly go with a stranger?
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LifeofRubie
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I would think plenty of people would try to stick fingers or food into the crates.
I believe they had signs there that specifically said Do NOT mess with the dogs in these crates or else. Although I can't recall what the 'or else' was.
Ah. That's good.
Kaiser2016
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And I wonder if Kaiser would get to that point with maturity.
Kaiser2016
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The visual deterrent is undeniable. But what if someone knows Dobes and gauges the dog to be young and trusting?
Kaiser2016
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It's good to read this detail. Maybe this is where my insecurity comes from. We've had a lot of trades people coming and going from the house and he's been so relaxed about it. The trades could easily approach him to pet him like they were old buddies. I guess seeing him so friendly made me wonder. But now that I think about it there was one guy who came in for a quote and Kaiser was rather alert. Never growling but quiet and watchful. Like a Doberman! Needless to say we didn't give that man the job.
Unfortunately, I think that all but maybe my first Doberman would willingly go with a stranger. My first Dobe, I did not take the route of socializing him with strangers. I made this choice because I did not want him to assume strangers were friendly, and I certainly did not have the money to protection train him, nor the resources to do it myself. If tied out, he would bite (nip with the incisors) anyone who approached and engaged him. I know this because, unfortunately, one day after an obedience trial in which we just participated I stopped my Harley at a nearby gas station to fuel up and one of the obedience judges was also there. He walked up to Magnum, who was tied to the kickstand of my bike. Magnum nipped him. A bit awkward!
Kaiser2016
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Is there such a thing as socializing them too much? When we first got Kaiser all I could think of was resident evil zombie dogs so I was hardcore about socializing him. The way I figure, his natural instincts can't be taken out of him no matter how many people he meets, right?
Kaiser2016
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Did you have Magnum run alongside you while riding your Harley? Or did he have a little side car?
I personally don't trust their natural instincts. I think most people fool themselves about their dog knowing good guys from bad guys. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
With Oji now, I at least have a ray of hope that he might get involved if someone physically attacked one of our family members. Heck, he might get involved if someone attacked, or played vigorously with anyone. He is excited by physicality displayed by humans. He wants to jump on you if you jump around or dance. So I think if some dude started a fight with me and Oji was there Oji would at least jump on him (or me) and if I'm lucky provide enough distraction to give me an advantage.
I think that actual protection training is the only realistic scenario for having your dog protect you.
Not to be a downer.
Ha! Actually, I rigged up a permanent mounting system where I had a plastic crate attached where the back seat of my Harley used to be. Not attractive. Not cool. But cool. The looks I got.Did you have Magnum run alongside you while riding your Harley? Or did he have a little side car?
That said, there are exceptions to almost everything. I have heard accounts on this forum of members being protected physically by their (I think not protection-trained) Dobermans.
Kaiser2016
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What if...dogs are just like cats, only more manipulative to get what they want? Cats make it obvious that they mostly do things on their own terms but what if dogs are fooling us by seeming to be friendlier? Like fake friends. Isn't a trait of Dobes to customize their commands? It's because they are pretending to be cute about their failed compliance. And if Dobes are so smart, they could surely pull this off no?
I started off half joking
Janiethedob
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My done would never go with a stranger without a fight, even if I'm right there telling her it's okay.
Ps- I'm unable to view very beginning of this thread?
Ps- I'm unable to view very beginning of this thread?
This thread was kindly branched off of another one – about nail trimming. This is probably why it seems there was prior content that is not viewable in this thread.
@Janiethedob I would love to see video of your Doberman fighting to not go with a stranger – bonus points if that stranger was sporting sweet baby talk and yummy treats.
If Daisy were around I could of arranged that, lol.
Just take her to the vet.
You should have seen the way she drug those chicks around the office
Would you have earned bonus points?If Daisy were around I could of arranged that, lol.
Just take her to the vet.
You should have seen the way she drug those chicks around the office
Doberman Gang
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Socialization means, in public with me, giving me attention and learning that there can be other people around while this is going on. Not to take your dog out to be social with strangers. It builds there confidence and let's them be at ease around strangers, kids and other dogs but attention is still on me.
Doberman Gang
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I keep my dogs locked in there kennels in the van, not only for there protection but for any idiot brace enough to walk up to the kennel with barking, salivating dogs in it and then try to open the door. Blaze hates it if you talk baby talk to him, he will try to bite you. Also if you yell at him he will try to bite you. Pretty much have to talk in a calm assertive manner with him. Ha ha I sound like Caesar
blacknrust
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I recently volunteered with Maeve at the Doberman Rescue Unlimited picnic. I was with my trainer and Maeve was the distraction dog while my trainer tested candidates for the CGC. Part of the test is to leave your dog with us and go out of sight for 3 minutes. Maeve tested first, I left and watched her from behind a nearby building. She was anxious to find me, pulling and ignoring the trainer. I thought it was just her, but the 15 other dobes that were tested most acted in a similar manner. Anxious and searching. We baby talked them and had no effect on them. I think dobes have their person and get very attached.
We frequent a conservation area where off leash is allowed on the trails and a huge field "dog park". Maeve prefers to visit with the people than their dogs. She constantly keeps me in view and always comes over and checks in. When she is at home you come near our property and all bets are off. She is aggressively barking and alert.
Depending on the person she's not always welcoming to strangers inside the house either.
We frequent a conservation area where off leash is allowed on the trails and a huge field "dog park". Maeve prefers to visit with the people than their dogs. She constantly keeps me in view and always comes over and checks in. When she is at home you come near our property and all bets are off. She is aggressively barking and alert.
Depending on the person she's not always welcoming to strangers inside the house either.
