The Harsh Truth About Why Our Sport is Dying

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The Harsh Truth About Why Our Sport Is Dying
January 28, 2016

By: Drew Deaton

Recently I have read several very well written articles on the “fall” of Dog Shows as a sport. The reasons targeted in these articles were all correct, they are all problems that do reside in our sport and it certainly would be nice to see them eliminated. However, are they the true reason our sport is dying? No. Now you are probably wondering by now what my credentials are to be so brilliantly informed that I could diagnose the problem that is killing our favorite past-time, our sport, for some of us- our livelihood. Well as much as I hate to disappoint I am somewhat of a “newbie” to the sport. I am only 20 years old and have been showing for less than two years. I did not participate in Juniors, I hold no degree related to dogs at all, and no one in my family but myself has ever even seen a dog show. I am so new that you could almost call me an outsider…and this makes me the perfect person to tell you why it is so difficult to love this sport as much as I do.

Our sport is dying, stop attaching all of these excuses about the frequencies of shows and entry fees are too high for this and too much for that…though you are not incorrect…that is not the reason our sport is dying. Hear me carefully for this is not a metaphor…our sport, meaning its athletes, supporters, and donors are literally dying. I am talking about physical and spiritual death. The great breeders, the famous handlers, those who grew up with their family showing dogs…they are dying! Dog Showing once thrived in generations that were not this one… now that we are in this generation all of the old generations are slowly, literally dying. Our sport is not dying because it is simply a rich man’s sport…that is a lie, this is a sport than can be played in a financially smart way. No, our sport is dying because it’s people are dying. Ok- so how do we save it?

Obviously, there is no way for us to stop time from running its course…that is just beyond our control. So in anything, how is one generation replaced once they are gone? With a NEW GENERATION. “Oh but we offer Junior Handling at shows to reel the kids in!”…NO. Everyone reading this knows as well as I do that kids can’t just walk in with their dog and say “Hey, I think I want to try this! Sign me up mom!”… not even close. Juniors is a wonderful thing but if you really pay attention it is mostly children of parents who breed, show, or are even professional handlers themselves. Though they are young, that is not the new blood we need to target. We want to expand, we want to grow!

Now, if no one has ever told you, let me be the first. The veterans of this sport make it INCREDIBLY difficult for us newcomers to love this sport. Myself, I am only still around because I tend to ignore the way people treat me… not everyone is like that, especially not in my generation. If you do not know my generation well, we are extremely over-sensitive and we are offended by EVERYTHING. That is why it takes about 10 minutes for a newcomer of my generation to get ticked off at a dog show. I have tried to bring family members and friends that have never even experienced anything like a dog show along with me and they leave HATING it. Let me tell you why, I don’t have all the answers but I guarantee you that with just a little thought, the more experienced folks may be able to figure the solutions out.

When I started showing I was merely helping out a friend of mine in Chinese Cresteds who was generously donating his time to teach me the basics. We were at a show one day, it wasn’t my very first show but it was of the first five, I was handling a small and timid Chihuahua client dog of his while he was in another ring. I waited very patiently right by the steward’s table with the number “9” wrapped around my left arm. I could not move away from her table because I was so nervous that I would miss my ring-time if I left. So I waited, finally my class came up but I did not really have a full enough understanding of the class system to know that was my class. As it turns out, the steward had called my number and she was an older lady with a gentle tone, I had mistaken her calling out the number “5” but she was actually calling my number, “9”. She called for a second time and I then realized my mistake and rushed in the ring, my nerves had tripled. As I fell in line to stack my little Chihuahua, a VERY well known handler in front of me turned around and remarked “How many times were you going to make her shout your number before you finally came in? Some of us have other dogs to show.”… I was appalled that someone would make such a remark to someone so obviously new, just because the steward had to call my number twice. The judge finally directed us to go around the ring. I stood up and looked down but the already timid dog that I was handling had all but curled into a ball and was immobile. He could tell that my nerves was completely shot. I tried my best to pep him up and and eventually we made it around the ring. After the class was finished, as I was walking out the Judge grabbed my elbow and stopped me… “Don’t you let these old women walk all over you” She said with a very tender smile. That judge is the only reason I ever set foot in the ring again. So this paragraph is for the handlers…what could you do differently to help a newcomer OR what could you be doing that might be turning away newcomers unintentionally?

To the breeders… Fortunately for my mentor in my own breed, this has not yet happened to me however I have seen it many times. “We all had our first dog” So many veterans have said to me or to friends of mine that are starting out. A friend of mine called a supposedly reputable breeder to obtain a show quality French Bulldog from her. They talked for months and went through the reference process, the interview process and finally this breeder agreed to sell my friend a puppy. I took my friend to shows and we met a few “Frenchie” folks and observed their handling and their grooming. One very kind handler even showed us a few of his grooming tricks. She finally got her puppy and started showing him. She showed him well! She gaited him beautifully and had taught him to hold a stack very well- but she never won. Months later while at a show we ran into the same handler that had showed us the grooming tricks and we asked him “Why is this puppy not winning anything?” That handler whipped out his phone and pulled up the Frenchie standard and explained in exquisite detail as to why the puppy was essentially a conformation train wreck. My poor friend had no idea, nor did she have a mentor to help her so the breeder sold her a puppy for a show quality price that was deeply pet quality. I can understand if you chose not to sell the absolute best puppy in the litter to a newcomer, but giving them the worst of the litter just because they are new…Does that seem right? That friend has never set foot on a show site again and lives quietly with her PET frenchie, Rosco.

Now to the know-it-all, whether you are a vendor, breeder, handler, or even spectator. I will never forget first time I asked my mother to tag along to the dog show with me. My mother was holding one of my dogs ringside while I was competing in the ring at an outdoor show. The dog my mother was holding had a bowel movement while she was watching me, she had no idea that the dog had used the bathroom behind her. Suddenly, a ferocious vendor comes trampling between the rings and throws a “poop-bag” at my mother and shouts “It is people like you that ruin it for all of us!”. IF I am somehow able to convince my mother to come back to a show, she sits ringside and she does not move. She will not hold a dog for me and she will not walk around. She goes straight from the car to the ring and back again while hating every minute of it. So tell me, if you were a newcomer or a paying spectator who just spent $20 just to park your car…would you come back?

To the owner-handlers (this is my category)… I am going to be bold with you because I have so much respect for you and love you dearly. STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT IF THEY ARE NOT PAYING $1,000 PER SHOW TO HAVE THEIR DOG HANDLED PROFESSIONALLY THEN THEIR DOG WILL NEVER FINISH. If someone asks me “when are you putting her with a handler” again, I might just scream this at them. I have a shocking news update for the show world… some owners have finished their own dogs before. Yes it is true, there are some judges who do play favorites in the ring and put up their friends…don’t enter under those judges again and your problems are solved! An owner CAN finish their dog and an owner CAN be a great handler of their own dogs! Professional Handlers do win a large amount of the time, but has anyone stopped to think that it is because they are professionals and this is their lively-hood? The very definition of professional implies that they have the talent or skills to display a dog more professionally than a non-professional. Do not spread lies to newcomers about not ever being able to beat a handler. Owner-handler friends had me PETRIFIED to step into the ring when there was a major handler of my breed competing. Then a judge put me up with a 10month old puppy over two extremely nice adult dogs handled by two MAJOR handlers of my breed and I realized that is nonsense at just under 5 months of handling experience.

I could sit here and go on for days with examples of situations like these that I have encountered in less than two years of people who made me want to quit. I could never quit because I love my dogs and I love the experience of being in the ring with them. I enjoy it, I have so much fun and they LOVE it too! My point is that we have to allow newcomers the chance to get that feeling, the chance to fall in love with the sport like we all did. You never know who is there for their first show, or second or third. There is too much drama in the world today, I am telling you veterans that my generation has no time or tolerance to welcome in a new activity that is surrounded by drama. If we love our sport and if we want it to be passed on through future generations and not just die off, then we must change our atmosphere. We must extend kindness and grace to those around us, we have to have fun ourselves. Make friends with the newcomers and please, PLEASE if they ask for help or guidance…help them without cruel or smart remarks. Never forget, you had your first show too. What made you come back? What did you enjoy? What did you appreciate that people did? What did you not enjoy? Did you ever not want to show again-why? What have people done in the past that have angered you or upset you?

Ask yourself these questions and ponder… what can YOU do that might encourage newcomers and keep this sport alive? As a breeder, vendor, owner-handler, professional handler, or even as a spectator… How can you change our sport?

- Drew Deaton
Source: The Harsh Truth About Why Our Sport Is Dying
 
I didn't realize that conformation shows were considered a sport.

Lol! I guess when you think about it it makes sense. Not the first time I've heard it.

sport[spawrt, spohrt]

noun
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physicalprowess and often of a competitive nature, asracing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling,boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
 
I know very little about conformation. I watch them on TV and have since I was a child but that's about it. I know the TV coverage is only a small portion. I did attend a couple and went around 'back stage?' where some of the dogs were in kennels and talked to some of the people but that's the extent.
 
Oh me too. I certainly have no dog in the sport with two adopted dogs. My extent is through here, other dog groups, OB club(others involved naturally talk) and a few years showing when I was younger.

I felt this article prob could be applied to any dog sport. We should be more accepting and helpful to newcomers if we want any competition. Can't show if there isn't anyone to show against...
 
I guess it is the Snowflake Generation. At least Drew hung in there. My first shows I also had problems because I didn't know what I was doing and it wasn't only the judges pencil that was sharp.

A funny incident from maybe 2009 or 2010. I was showing Cooper in Novice B and after the class started and I was standing by the stewards table to go into the ring next, a couple young girls who were in Novice A started loudly complaining because Novice B went before Novice A, and they were the last class of the day and they were tired of waiting! I was thinking to myself that they just gotta to pay their dues if they want to go into the ring earlier!
 
Sooooo, @obbanner I'm confused, Are you saying you don't agree with the article? That the 'Snowflake Generation' should just pay their dues and get a tougher skin? You know I'm your generation, so I'm not siding with the 'kids'. :p AND I don't even have my feet wet in the show world, so I shouldn't even have an opinion. But the funny thing is, even without being in it myself, over the years this is exactly what I've seen and heard through the folks that are in it. And I feel its disappointing that the 'older', 'wiser', 'seasoned' folks can't be a mentor to the 'youngsters' trying to enter a whole new world.

I guess its that vicious circle of everyone having to pay their dues and then expecting (and deviously watching) the newcomers flounder. It is, after all, a competition. :confused-alt: But if there is no next generation, there will be no competition. I recall my sister or her friends getting a 'point' or something (remember, not a show person here :rolleyes: ) just because their dog was the only one in the class! I was like, Oooookay. Whew, that was close! :wacky:
 
I feel like lifestyles have changed so much that it would be difficult to dedicate the time it takes. We have become this instant gradification society, we want it now! Add to that we hand kids some kind of device as soon as they can hold it and the result is not patience. Kids play these fast paced, very graphic and colorful games and then we expect them to sit still at a slow paced event....not gonna happen, IMHO. We are creating a generation with the attention span of a gnat.
Put the kids in a venue that doesn't over praise you for any little achievement and is not welcoming to new comers and you spell disaster.
 
Put the kids in a venue that doesn't over praise you for any little achievement and is not welcoming to new comers and you spell disaster.
I'm not so sure this (article) is about patience as much as its about the seasoned showers mentoring the newbies. At least that's what I got out of it. And what I agree on. For me, It sort of goes back to what @FredC was saying about breeders. Maybe even what you are saying in the Journey to a new Pup. ? It's like a closed society. Newbies just can't get a foothold because the 'elders' in the 'sport' (shows and breeding and a new pup) are closed lipped and not willing to help. Of course, nothing is 100% across the board. I'm sure there are some that are awesome. But I think I've seen this in all these venues at one time or another.
 
Sooooo, @obbanner I'm confused, Are you saying you don't agree with the article? That the 'Snowflake Generation' should just pay their dues and get a tougher skin? You know I'm your generation, so I'm not siding with the 'kids'. :p AND I don't even have my feet wet in the show world, so I shouldn't even have an opinion. But the funny thing is, even without being in it myself, over the years this is exactly what I've seen and heard through the folks that are in it. And I feel its disappointing that the 'older', 'wiser', 'seasoned' folks can't be a mentor to the 'youngsters' trying to enter a whole new world.

I guess its that vicious circle of everyone having to pay their dues and then expecting (and deviously watching) the newcomers flounder. It is, after all, a competition. :confused-alt: But if there is no next generation, there will be no competition. I recall my sister or her friends getting a 'point' or something (remember, not a show person here :rolleyes: ) just because their dog was the only one in the class! I was like, Oooookay. Whew, that was close! :wacky:

I'm saying that life is hard, and the kids need to grow a shellback. Showing dogs is very stressful and people often say and do things that aren't nice. Sometimes they mean it, and other times they realize they were harsh and regret it. Live with it.

Today I was ring stewarding in Utility and Open and also working without a table steward. The first priority for a steward is what's going on in the ring, but sometimes a simple task outside the ring gets complicated and the ring situation gets away from you. That happened to me today. I was checking in a handler who, naturally, didn't bring her ticket. I had to look her up in the catalog, ask her the jump height and write it on the go board, and I suddenly realized I lost the picture in the ring. I looked up and saw the judge and handler staring at me, so I grabbed the handlers lead thinking the handler finished and was ready to leave the ring. I got a distance into the ring, and realized they were waiting for the Figure 8. I did a quick about face, put the lead back, returned to the position to be a post for the Figure 8, and the exercise proceeded. As we were walking out of the ring, the other steward said the handler was being snarky about me for turning my back on her dog when I turned around to put her lead back and for not paying attention to the ring. That's life in the dog show world. Live with it.

A very popular judge has ailments that act up, and on those rare days, she's very testy. It doesn't affect her judging, but she is very abrupt on those days. Live with it.

Novice A is for dogs and handlers who have never shown to a title in that sport, be it Obedience, Rally, Herding or anything else. It's for newbies. After you get that first title, you show in Novice B for your next dogs. Since it's Novice A, the judges go out of their way to be nice to the handlers and their pencils aren't quite as sharp. However, outside the ring, they're new people who don't know anybody mixed with people who've known each other for years. If the newbie is polite and asks questions, most will help. If they're newbies with strong opinions and zero experience, they're not going to get a warm welcome. Live with it.

A friend with several OTCHs decided to try a new sport, I think the CDSP, and she was laughing that she had to show in Novice A because she hasn't been in Novice A for decades!

The trial secretary comes up with the order of the classes and Novice A is traditionally the last class of the day. The trials usually begin with Utility B. If there's two rings, the second ring often starts with Open B so those going for UDXs and OTCH points can show quickly show, and if the trial is outdoors, can show before the day gets hot. Those are the classes where the dogs work the hardest. If a Novice A handler has what it takes, they too can go from showing at 3:30 in the afternoon to showing at 8:00 in the morning. Live with it.

As I was writing this, I realized that I should have mentioned in my first post that what's really killing the shows is that nobody wants to WORK at a show. My club now puts on two specialties and three obedience trials every year. I've been the show chairman for the January and July obedience trials for two years. A lot of work goes into a show and the people who do the heavy lifting burn out. Also, when there's not enough people to keep the gears turning smoothly, it causes friction in the ring, as stated above in my tale about the Open Figure 8. If we had had a table steward, it would have been a very smooth show today. But we didn't have enough warm bodies, and when people started checking in for the following class, it was very stressful for all concerned. There's no way to better learn about dog shows than to work at them.

If people really want to save our sport, volunteer to work. Our club is small and we try to recruit only members willing to work.

I'm all for mentoring new people in the sport. I'm a bit of a missionary in my belief that dogs need to work and are happiest when they are doing what they were bred to do. I'm active in a 4H dog club and invite the 4H members to steward at or enter in my clubs obedience trials or shows. I go on Facebook pages that are mostly dedicated to pictures of dogs laying on the floor or on the sofa, and post pictures of my dogs working, trying to show people that dogs can do more.

I guess I should listen to Drew writing with all the vast experience of a 20 year old. After all, she's at the age where she knows everything and I'm at the age where I realize how little I know. What can go wrong? ;)
 
I'm not so sure this (article) is about patience as much as its about the seasoned showers mentoring the newbies. At least that's what I got out of it. And what I agree on. For me, It sort of goes back to what @FredC was saying about breeders. Maybe even what you are saying in the Journey to a new Pup. ? It's like a closed society. Newbies just can't get a foothold because the 'elders' in the 'sport' (shows and breeding and a new pup) are closed lipped and not willing to help. Of course, nothing is 100% across the board. I'm sure there are some that are awesome. But I think I've seen this in all these venues at one time or another.


I think I was saying what @obbanner said above. I just got ahead of myself and didn't put in so many details to explain myself. It does take patience and work ethic to do dog trialing/showing.
I remember my first dog trial, I didn't even have a dog entered but I worked my butt off. I don't even remember much about what happened with the dogs because I was so busy. First I made all the trophies and a gift for everyone that entered. The first day was the health clinic. That meant running around getting all the docs set up, handing out the paperwork to the participants and directing them where to go. All this while getting my dog tested too. Did I mention this was after I got up early to cook breakfast for the judges and helper? This was after I went to the store and bought all the food late the evening before. The rest of the trial was spent running around taking pics, being part of the process of a dog passing their BH which means you have to go out on the field and stand there for the dog and handler to figure 8 around you. There was so much more that I don't want to bore you with the details.
My point being that it takes patience, endurance, work ethic, dedication and so much more to get to a title. All qualities that we not building in the youngsters anymore.
Whenever I attend a show, I make a point to thank someone in the club that sponsors the show. That thank you may not seem like much, but I enjoy watching the genuine smile and look of appreciation that comes to their face. I hope it is enough to keep them doing what they do.
 
I'm saying that life is hard, and the kids need to grow a shellback.
How does one do that when most never had one to begin with? Their parent failed them when they gave them knee pads and helmets instead of Band aids and pep talks.
If people really want to save our sport, volunteer to work. Our club is small and we try to recruit only members willing to work.
I have no interest in saving a sport/contest/pageant that couldn't bother to support me.. all i wanted to do was be accepted. i had no problems with paying my dues but when it became clear me and my mutt weren't wanted, we got the message loud and clear and have never been back and likely never will.. I admittedly have a pretty thin skin.. (no one was more surprised then me) but i gotta tell ya it takes all types and it was my thin skin that gave me the idea for this place vs the competition..I just couldn't support that negativity but wanted to be a part of something.. God knows they were discarding enough people that i knew this place could survive on their scraps alone.. Ive often considered starting a local club with many of the same principles but lets face it i didn't spend enough time in any club to even have the foggiest idea of where to begin.. But in reality im just not a competitive person and its likely most of my excuses are just that..

I guess as with everything in life the events are what we make of them.. I likely went in with a closed mind and left with all the excuses and ammunition i needed.

I should mention we did win that day. ;) I retired Kali Undefeated (1-0) later that afternoon.. :)
 
How does one do that when most never had one to begin with? Their parent failed them when they gave them knee pads and helmets instead of Band aids and pep talks.


Or force them to be responsible for anything.


I have no interest in saving a sport/contest/pageant that couldn't bother to support me.. all i wanted to do was be accepted.


Trust me, nobody understands that more than me. :rolleyes: I definitely had a bad taste left in my mouth....more than once. But for some reason, my desire to work with my dog was bigger than the butt heads that ruin it for most. I still don't approach it with the "all in" , title or die motto. I just, (I guess what most serious people would call) play. I love working with Drake. His "okay, let's do this" and "I'm gonna do anything to please you" keeps it fun for me. I try to leave the rest behind, sometimes with little success.


i had no problems with paying my dues


Ya know, I wonder if this isn't part of the problem. Especially in conformation. I was at a show in June, there was a group of breeders and handlers that were there all together. I decided to ask them some questions. It all came down to I think some of these handlers are prima donna's that have not paid their dues. They are not part of any club and they just walk in and show dogs. They are the first to start bitching if everything does not go their way and set the tone for the show. They complain about the organization, the trophies....everything. I said something about there are bound to be some kinks, putting on a show is a lot of work. They told me to stop making excuses for them. :shock:
 
I'm saying that life is hard, and the kids need to grow a shellback.


its about the seasoned showers mentoring the newbies.
I think I'm having a hard time getting my point across. :)

I'll be the first one to say a lot of kids today don't take responsibility. Don't have a touch skin. Don't wanna work hard. Want everything NOW. I don't like a whiner or someone that feels he can skip steps (that we've all taken :tap: ) and think they can move ahead without putting in the work, blood, sweat and tears that we have! And this can be in anything... Dog shows. A job. An Artist. An Actor.

But lets just talk dog shows. The hard truth is there is so much competition and status. And it's not friendly competition! :wideyed:

Let's take me........a REAL novice when it comes to ANYthing with shows, ok? But if I wanted to get into it, it suuuuure would be nice if I had someone "in the field" to help mentor me. I'm not against hard work. I'm not against learning. I think at my age I've developed a thicker skin than in my 20's. But if no one helps me know what I'm doing wrong, I can't learn! And teaching is not done by someone snarking at me, "How many times does the Stewart have to call you?!!! " :mad: I'm not going to go home crying just cuz they said that. I have a 'shell'. ;) But if sure makes me wanna say, "Bite ME!" :cus: But that's no way for either of us to act. Why couldn't someone just say something helpful? I don't think its about having a shell as much as it is about having manners. So it's ok that everyone be an ass and I should just have a shell? That doesn't even make sense to me.

I suddenly realized I lost the picture in the ring. I looked up and saw the judge and handler staring at me, so I grabbed the handlers lead thinking the handler finished and was ready to leave the ring. I got a distance into the ring, and realized they were waiting for the Figure 8. I did a quick about face, put the lead back, returned to the position to be a post for the Figure 8, and the exercise proceeded. As we were walking out of the ring, the other steward said the handler was being snarky about me for turning my back on her dog when I turned around to put her lead back and for not paying attention to the ring. That's life in the dog show world. Live with it.

Actually, in this particular example, I feel you were in the wrong. You already knew what was expected of you and you got distracted. You messed up and it's too bad that someone had to be 'snarky' about it, but it's about taking responsibility for your mistake. If that were me, I would "Live with It". No problem. What I'm talking about is a newbie that didn't realize their mistake and someone gets snarky with them instead of being the damn mentor and HELPing them understand their mistake! You think the 'elder' being snarky about it, the newbie should just get a tougher skin? Man, I think it still comes down to manners and compassion. I'm not saying the newbie should turn tail and run away crying. Get a tough skin! But it works the other way too. The 'elders' can be a bit more compassionate and helpful about passing down their information and knowledge. What happened to taking somebody under their wing? Is this competition so great that we turn our noses up and say, "You're on your own, kid!" If that were true, no one us here would reach to a newbie and their Doberman.
 
I guess I should listen to Drew writing with all the vast experience of a 20 year old. After all, she's at the age where she knows everything and I'm at the age where I realize how little I know. What can go wrong? ;)
Wow, really?

Alright, I'm done.

Either I'm way off base on what this article is about or I guess I don't have that shell. I do know I will never do a show.
 
I think I'm having a hard time getting my point across. :)

I'll be the first one to say a lot of kids today don't take responsibility. Don't have a touch skin. Don't wanna work hard. Want everything NOW. I don't like a whiner or someone that feels he can skip steps (that we've all taken :tap: ) and think they can move ahead without putting in the work, blood, sweat and tears that we have! And this can be in anything... Dog shows. A job. An Artist. An Actor.

But lets just talk dog shows. The hard truth is there is so much competition and status. And it's not friendly competition! :wideyed:

Let's take me........a REAL novice when it comes to ANYthing with shows, ok? But if I wanted to get into it, it suuuuure would be nice if I had someone "in the field" to help mentor me. I'm not against hard work. I'm not against learning. I think at my age I've developed a thicker skin than in my 20's. But if no one helps me know what I'm doing wrong, I can't learn! And teaching is not done by someone snarking at me, "How many times does the Stewart have to call you?!!! " :mad: I'm not going to go home crying just cuz they said that. I have a 'shell'. ;) But if sure makes me wanna say, "Bite ME!" :cus: But that's no way for either of us to act. Why couldn't someone just say something helpful? I don't think its about having a shell as much as it is about having manners. So it's ok that everyone be an ass and I should just have a shell? That doesn't even make sense to me.

I'm sorry you had bad experiences.

Actually, in this particular example, I feel you were in the wrong. You already knew what was expected of you and you got distracted. You messed up and it's too bad that someone had to be 'snarky' about it, but it's about taking responsibility for your mistake. If that were me, I would "Live with It". No problem.

I owned it. I said it. I explained that it's a mistake. I also pointed out that this was in an Open class where the handler by definition has been in previous shows and should know that stuff happens and I didn't take her comments personally.

What I'm talking about is a newbie that didn't realize their mistake and someone gets snarky with them instead of being the damn mentor and HELPing them understand their mistake! You think the 'elder' being snarky about it, the newbie should just get a tougher skin? Man, I think it still comes down to manners and compassion. I'm not saying the newbie should turn tail and run away crying. Get a tough skin! But it works the other way too. The 'elders' can be a bit more compassionate and helpful about passing down their information and knowledge. What happened to taking somebody under their wing? Is this competition so great that we turn our noses up and say, "You're on your own, kid!" If that were true, no one us here would reach to a newbie and their Doberman.

I'm thinking about what to say to Fred because his experiences are very similar to mine.

I don't know what more I can do to help newbies. I still remember the days when I was showing and didn't know what I was doing in the ring because nobody told me. A woman blew a Q yesterday because her dog didn't finish after the Drop on Recall and she gave it a second command to finish. I went up to her later and told her that she would have qualified with a point deduction for not having finished, but she blew the Q when she gave the second command. I know because I was in that position, but saved my Q by keeping my mouth shut.

I work in 4H and encourage them to be Jr Handlers. Anyone who asks me for help, I'll help. I'm saying newbies have to do more than whine. It's much easier today than it was when I started. I was totally isolated, knew nobody and had to find out shows by snail mail. There was no place to go to find out tips and I had to read the Obedience Regulations carefully to try to figure out what would cause me to NQ. Today there's so many resources online - dog club websites, Facebook pages, uncounted numbers of blogs. I'm really amazed that a person is so needy that she'd write an article that the reasons why dog shows are failing is that nobody is holding her hand and giving her participation ribbons.

Update - I had a very bad experience with a judge in Novice B years ago after I had a long layoff from showing. I forgot many of the nuances and he chewed me up and spit me out. I didn't take it personally and I recently had dinner with him after a trial. He's a very funny and entertaining man, and I'm glad I had a chance to spend time with him. (BTW, I'm admitting I made mistakes!)
 
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Sorry to say that there are those out there that get upset about how situations are handle or miss handled. As competitors we need to remember the stewards are giving there free time to help out at a trial, many may just be learning what they are doing and they need our support and gratitude. I always make a point to shake hands and thank the stewards at ringside in the rings I am showing at, including conformation rings my wife shows at. A steward that may be feeling stressed or overwhelmed will often relax and smile once they realize someone appreciates what they are trying to do.

As stewards we need to realize that the competitors have spent there money on entry fees, possibly traveled many miles and paid for hotels to be there to compete and support the club putting on the trial. Friendliness and being as helpful as possible can go along way especially with new competitors. As for the competitor that got angry about the steward turning there back on the dog due to a mistake and being distracted. I say get it over it and train your dog better. Shit happens and you should have your dog prepared for all kinds of distractions. Dog and handlers perform as a team and look best when both are having fun. So go out and have fun, stress can kill a good routine and leave a handler looking for an excuse or someone to blame. It is no ones fault but your own for a NQ. Train hard and have fun are the most important things.
 
I'm really amazed that a person is so needy that she'd write an article that the reasons why dog shows are failing is that nobody is holding her hand and giving her participation ribbons.

Wow, umm I certainly mean no disrespect Art because I do appreciate what you do, your knowledge and support for 4H being I was a 4Her myself so I truly appreciate those that support kids learning all the skills 4H can teach but... Are we reading the same article? Yes kids should grow a thicker she'll but right off the bat? It takes experiences and time for that to happen and someone to give just that little tiny bit of encouragement and wisdom in their ear. In 4H it was usually your parent or instructors. I'm failing to see how age matters here when it comes to Drew's personal experience as a newbie. And didn't Drew stick through it regardless of those experiences? I'm missing the whiney aspect of it. Maybe because I see a person who must care enough about the sport to write an article for the world to read and criticise in the first place. Are we saying that conformation and dog sports in general aren't hurting in comparison to history?

Don't we read numerous comments on here about how rude some show people were to them? All I think Drew is asking is for is compromise. If a newbie is expected to bite their tongue once in a while... Well then, so can a veteran. It goes with anything in life. Rough day? Take it out on some random person to make yourself feel better or bite your tongue because you don't know their battles they are facing just like they don't know yours. Occasionally we slip up as humans and you know what, we move on but if everyone tried to show, even a tiny bit, more compassion we wouldn't be reading so many posts about how vile show people can be. Think of how many shows someone like Fred would have gone to if his experience were even slightly different his first time out... And I know Fred probably wasn't 20 ;) Age doesn't matter. I believe this post was simply a gentle reminder to be aware of what our actions say in how we treat one another and what itsays about our environment (in this case, conformation). Let us meet in the middle! :)
 

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